Roosh: Who needs orgasms, anyway?

Cat is not impressed with your PUA bullshit.

Pickup gurus write a lot about how to (allegedly) get sex, or how they (allegedly) got sex, but almost nothing about sex itself. It’s pretty clear that a lot of PUAs are more interested in the psychological manipulations and power games inherent in “game,” or in adding another notch to their score, than they are in the actual sex that sometimes results from all their efforts.

It goes without saying that most PUAs have little interest in their partners’ pleasure. In a post with the title It Doesn’t Matter If She Orgasms Or Not, pickup guru Roosh explained that once upon a time,

I used to try to last as long as possible in bed. I wanted to make sure the girl got hers before I got mine, and the reason I did that was because I thought she would be attracted to me more and want to see me again.

But, Roosh being the asshole he is, even this minimal level of consideration – which he extended to his partners for his own selfish reasons – turned out to be too much for him to keep up:

Gradually I just stopped caring, and soon everything I did in bed was for my pleasure only. The only reason I’d delay orgasm is to make mine better, and I pretended I don’t hear her the first time she told me to drill slower or not to go so deep. I did whatever I wanted because I came to value my orgasm as sacred, and her pleasure as second to mine.

Given that sex with him in was likely not such a great treat to begin with, he found that being completely selfish didn’t actually make the girls he was with like him any less.

Girls didn’t want to fuck me more, they didn’t want to fuck me less. Not caring about their sexual pleasure had no effect on repeat calls and repeat sex.

No wonder PUAs are so obsessed with very young women – they’re less likely to have experienced good sex, and more likely to be willing to put up with bad simply because they don’t yet realize how good sex can get.

Back in 2008 when he wrote that post, Roosh’s main sexual worry was coming too quickly; these days it seems he has trouble coming at all. Now, there are plenty of reasons why guys can’t orgasm – health conditions, prescription medicine side effects, everyday anxieties, decreased sensitivity with age, and so on. Guys shouldn’t pressure themselves into coming on demand, or feel bad if they can’t.

But Roosh actually seems to feel good about his inability to orgasm – because he’s learned to use this bit of sexual dysfuction as a handy tool to manipulate his partners further:

Not being able to orgasm is one of the best ways to make a girl feel anxious and insecure. When I’m unable to come, which often happens with condoms (raw dog for life), I simply stop sex and say, “I’m not going to make it.” I can almost see her hamster spinning…

Is he not attracted to me anymore?

Is there something wrong with my vagina?

Should I give him a blowjob even though I don’t want to?

These are not the sorts of questions any straight man who’s not an utter creep wants his partner asking herself.

Roosh continues, gloating that his inability to orgasm

also shapes the power structure of the relationship. She knows that a man who doesn’t orgasm is more likely to stray to get that orgasm. As a result, she tests you less and does more things to win your favor.

Or she finds someone else who’s not a complete asshole, and moves on.

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Posted on August 1, 2012, in creepy, douchebaggery, kitties, men who should not ever be with women ever, misogyny, PUA, rhymes with roosh, sex. Bookmark the permalink. 291 Comments.

  1. Great. I’d just finished shuddering from the word “cooter.”

  2. The regular expression would be “on ne discute pas des goûts et des couleurs”.

  3. I, personally, feel very very insecure about my ability to orgasm from receiving oral sex. I’m a woman, and every woman I’ve ever talked to goes “RECEIVING ORAL SEX IS THE BEST YOU SHOULD LOVE IT” and pretty much every sex partner I’ve been with says “I WANNA MAKE YOU ORGASM WITH MY TONGUE” and I just get all stressed out and it’s really sensitive for like five seconds and then my clitoris goes dead and they might as well be licking my arm- I mean, pleasurable enough sensation, but I’m never getting anywhere with it.

    Also, orgasming during sex was really hard for me. 99% of my sexual fantasies (no access to internet until late college, so no porn option for me) from childhood and young adulthood were non-consensual/rape/impregnation/tied up in a scientific sex facility/monstersex based fantasies. All of these fantasies clashed horribly when I tried to have loving, consensual sex with someone I had happy lovey feelings for.

    It was actually easier to be with guys who didn’t care about my pleasure or didn’t want to give me oral sex, because then I didn’t have to deal with the fact that I was horribly insecure about those things too. When a guy was objectifying me, it was easier to believe that he actually found me attractive because the whole Nice Guy passive-aggressive nice-to-get-in-your-pants thing seems to end with the guy eventually letting you know how he actually finds you fat, ugly and thanks for the use of your vagina, now bye. And that idea just broke me far more than having some guy be a boorish lout and paw my body uncomfortably. But then again, when I was younger, I had this weird idea that those were the only two choices. Well, that and masturbation. Which is probably why I had no desire to have sex until I was 18, in a committed relationship with someone who wasn’t at all like the two “types” mentioned above, and even then still took a year to orgasm at all during sex or sexual play even though it felt good and I wanted it.

  4. Things we have learned this evening – Om Nom likes to deal with the fact that sex makes him uncomfortable by using the silliest, most childish terms he can think of. Truly, he deserves the company of the kind of woman who would say “fuck my cooter – tee hee!”.

  5. PS: I like using the word “panny” to talk about panties. It’s probably a leave-over from my childhood because my mom has problems pronouncing “t”s or multi-syllable words (she still pronounces my sister’s name like a two syllable word instead of a three syllable word). My daughter is potty training (almost done, woo) and telling her to pull up pannies first just rolls off the tongue better than “underwear” or whatever.

    I really hate the word pussy to describe vagina. I would rather use “cunt” to describe what’s between my legs, but I’d never use it around anyone other than my husband because people seem to find the word incredibly offensive, even if I’m not using it in an offensive way and only in reference to my genitals. Vagina sounds like a freaking car model or something you’d vacuum the floor with, and “twat” sounds too slangy and un-sexy.

    And it took me a long time to desensitize myself to giggling every time I tried to say “cum” or “cock.”

    Also, boobies. *giggle* I still think that is hilarious.

  6. The more horrible PUA shit I read the more I’ve come to realize how utterly spot on that one episode of Bob’s Burgers was in skewering the entire philosophy:

    “When you get into an elevator with a woman, press a higher number than her then make a big deal about it!”
    “Push her in a lake”
    “Be one of the tallest guys in the bar and brag about how long your buttcrack is!”
    “NEVER make her pancakes: Force her to make YOU pancakes, in the middle of the night”

  7. Meh, I have to read all of this second-hand (perhaps happily), as I was perma-banned from Roosh’s blog about a year ago for calling him a bearded lothario who refuses to perform oral sex on women (all true, but still).

  8. Nanasha: I hate the word “pussy” too.

    After about 50 million events of “hurr hurr pussy means both vagina and cat, so i’m going to refer to a cat as a pussy in really badly constructed innuendo” from other guys (mostly the guy I work with), now I just associate the word with its use by awful sexist people.

    “Boobies” is funny though. I always get a giggle out of “penis” too for some reason. :D

  9. I am seconding the preference for ‘cunt’. However, I wouldn’t use it in bed. This thread made me think about it and I pretty much only use the word ‘me’ (as in ‘inside me’ etc.). I use ‘cunt’ to my good friends, and ‘fanny’* to other people. Or vagina if I’m dealing with someone who is being sexist, because it seems to put them on edge. Sometimes I have to channel my inner Maude Lebowski.

    When I was very little, my family referred to vaginas as ‘tuppences’. This is fairly common where I’m from, but it can also be a term of endearment, although not a common one. Using terms of endearment to strangers is the norm where I’m from (since I’ve moved away I get funny looks when I call bus drivers ‘love’ or ‘pet’), so ‘tuppence’ led to some incredibly aghast and indignant stares from TinyNat when I was called it by the family doctor.

    In terms of words I can’t stand – macarons. Fuck macarons, I won’t even eat them because I hate that word so much. I actually get irrationally angry when I hear people say it.

    (*the first time I heard my American aunty referring to a ‘fanny pack’ I nearly spontaneously combusted with laughter)

  10. @ShadeTheDruid

    Butbutbut Mrs Slocombe! (My nana actually says things like that all the bloody time. English isn’t her first language though, and I don’t have the heart to tell her the other meaning)

    For the non-UK based:

  11. Yeaaaahhh, last time a random hookup treated me like that (tbh I don’t do it very much specifically because I actually want to get something out of it if I’m gonna sleep with someone, and three minutes of jack rabbit thrusting is not what I’m looking for), I told him exactly how shitty he was in bed. He probably became an MRA after that because I can tell it was a blow to his ego. But let’s be real, he had no consideration for my feelings or what I wanted, and completely ignored my direction, so what consideration should I have for his illusion that he’s good in bed? It really did come down to the fact that the guy was young (early 20s) and wasn’t used to women who have had good sex telling him that what he was doing wasn’t working.

    And uhh, his “pretending to not hear” thing is bordering on rapist territory. It really puts me off. What else is he pretending not to hear?

  12. I’m not UK-based, but I know Are You Being Served? PBS (the Public Broadcasting Service) shows it to American audiences. This is your tax dollars at work, NWOslave! PBS mistook AYBS for something high-brow and classy because it is British. It’s a bit like Ozymandias and wanking.

  13. >would like to add that in German it would be “In die Angelegenheiten des Neigunges, es gibt nicht Streit”

    There’s actually a fixed phrase for it that goes: “Über Geschmack lässt sich nicht streiten”

  14. Ok, now that I’ve read the comments, glad I wasn’t the only one disturbed by that rapey stuff.

    Also, ARE YOU BEING SERVED! We used to watch that like every day as kids.

    And I hate the words pussy and panties myself. IDK, they are just the complete opposite of sexy to me. I listen to this podcast a lot where the guy likes to say pussy and just, eww, please stop. It’s the biggest annoyance about the podcast.

    And relevant

  15. starterlifesydney

    I believe in American slang “fanny” means generically “bottom”. In Australian slang it means “pussy”, yay!

  16. starterlifesydney

    Hence fanny pack is known as a bum bag in Australia…..

  17. I’m trying to popularise “jilling off” as the female equivalent of “jacking off”.

  18. I don’t mind “pussy”, but I don’t prefer it either. I, too, use “cunt” to refer to my genitals. Sometimes I use “ladyparts” because I find it hilarious to say. “Cooter” bugs me, though I’ll put up with it. I can’t stand “twat”, it annoys the hell out of me. Although if anyone uses those terms to insult me, I just end up laughing at them. There’s nothing inherently wrong with genitals and most people like them or are neutral toward them.

    I do have a female client who says the word “vagina” in such a way that it irritates me. I can’t quite figure out why, I think it’s the way she emphasizes saying it. *shudder* Those days, I wish I could just hang up on her, but I can’t, because it’s relevant to my job.

    And I do find “panties” to be creepy in reference to women’s underwear, only because I think of “panties” as little girl’s underwear. I like “undies” or “underwear”, and if I’m being silly about it, “unmentionables”. My inner 12 year old will always snicker at “boobies” and “knockers”.

  19. starterlifesydney: Same here in the UK on both counts, though I suppose it’s not surprising that the UK and Australia share slang terms.

  20. As an Englishman, I’ll call a man a cunt, but only if he’s being a cunt (unlike in certain areas of Scotland, where they’ll call any old cunt a cunt, even if he’s a nice cunt). But I wouldn’t call a woman a cunt, because it seems instinctively misogynist, and I wouldn’t call a vagina a cunt, because it seems like kind of an unpleasant word for it.

  21. (Obviously it’s not cool to use ‘cunt’ pejoratively, regardless of gender, and I try not to do it. But these are my instinctive reactions to the word FWIW.)

  22. Dumbass Apostrophe

    One of my favorite US-UK culture clash moments involves an American friend of mine trying to warn an English friend against sitting in a puddle on the London Underground. The American, trying to sound a bit precious, screamed at the top of his lungs “Don’t sit there! You’ll get your fanny wet!”

    Neither party was aware that the word meant two different things depending on your side of the Atlantic. Hilarity. It ensued.

  23. Monsieur sans Nom

    Things we have learned this evening – Om Nom likes to deal with the fact that sex makes him uncomfortable by using the silliest, most childish terms he can think of. Truly, he deserves the company of the kind of woman who would say “fuck my cooter – tee hee!”.

    No.

  24. “Dude, “wank” is at least as unisex as “fap,” given that “fap” is onomatopoeiac for male masturbation.”

    Yeh…I will use wank or masturbate for men or women, but the only term I find sexy (as well as funny!) is ‘jerking off’, which I also use for men and women. My boyfriend hates it for women and prefers ‘fingering yourself’ (!!!) which makes me want to vomit.

  25. What exactly is “rapey” about Pick Up Artistry?

    -MSN

    I pretended I don’t hear her the first time she told me to drill slower or not to go so deep.

    There ya go.

  26. starterlifesydney

    I think fanny is a an awesome and not repulsive substitute for pussy :)

  27. I hate nearly all words for vagina…’pussy’ is acceptable, but it still sticks when I try and say it! The word I generally use is ‘vag’, which I am comfy with, but it is very unsexy!

    “I, personally, feel very very insecure about my ability to orgasm from receiving oral sex. I’m a woman, and every woman I’ve ever talked to goes “RECEIVING ORAL SEX IS THE BEST YOU SHOULD LOVE IT” and pretty much every sex partner I’ve been with says “I WANNA MAKE YOU ORGASM WITH MY TONGUE” and I just get all stressed out and it’s really sensitive for like five seconds and then my clitoris goes dead and they might as well be licking my arm- I mean, pleasurable enough sensation, but I’m never getting anywhere with it.”

    Yes yes yes yes yes! I think I have come from oral sex about twice in my life, after literally half an hour of trying and trying on both our parts, and this pretty much sums up my experience as well.

    Things that work:

    My own hand
    Partner’s hand SOMETIMES and only with constant adjustments
    Wand vibrator 30 second orgasm way better but not ‘real’ orgasms like oral sex waaaah o_o

  28. blitzgal and Ozymandias42: You certainly do pick your battles wisely!

    Says the guy who’s ranting about underwear.

    Besides, why the fuck are you people whining about the word “panties”? It is a very sexy word and that’s probably why most women use it.

    This is silly. It’s not a sexy word. It’s not even a sexy concept. It’s, at best, a sort of neutral word. The idea of “panties” you keep in your head might be sexy, but as a word it’s sort of infantile.

    It’s likely a diminutive formation from either the British pants, or the American underpants. It’s not a pattern which has been used with mens’ undergarments. I don’t hate it, but I find it awkward and inelegant. I find itm because of that aspect of juvenalia, difficult to use; e.g. when a co-worker might care that her underwear has ridden up.

    It’s not that she’s being in any way immodest, but, “your panties are showing” immediately calls to mind reproofs given to children, which seems inappropriate.

  29. ‘Fanny’ is a very childish word in my opinion, like everyone called a vulva a ‘fanny’ when I was five or six. Or ‘mini’, which is I think more acceptable… I don’t think I ever had a word for it =/ I knew ‘penis’ but I was never taught a word for vulva or vagina except ‘private parts’ I guess.

  30. Also ‘knickers’ can totally mean thong (or ‘buttfloss’…urgh…) I love it, it covers male and female style briefs, string underwear and boxers for me :D ‘Panties’ I just get a visual of some terrifying sex offender saying it, but granted nobody says ‘panties’ over here so I am only exposed through creepy guys on films etc.

  31. The idea of “panties” you keep in your head might be sexy – pecunium

    No, my brain, that’s clearly the word “in”, not the word “on”.

  32. “Panties” as a word for adult women’s underwear has made me cringe a little ever since I started hearing it used on tv etc. Panties sounds like something small children wear.
    Then again, I’m in the UK and its all knickers and pants here…and knickers is pretty funny word.

    Also, PUAs are crap in bed? Oh, is anyone suprised?

  33. blitzgal and Ozymandias42: You certainly do pick your battles wisely!

    Oh yes, the old, “you’re wasting your time on such trivial issues when there are much more important things you should focus on” concern trolling. Yawn.

  34. I’ve never heard of mini as a word for vagina before, and I’ve watched a lot of British television, as I imagine is usual for the commenters here, and even British films, although they may not have used the word back when Britain still made films. Does it imply vaginas are small?

  35. For Russian we have, О вкусах не спорят (which looks a lot like the spanish, para gustos hay colores), though if one wanted to translate it, rather than use the language’s own aphorism, one has the closer, на вкус и на цвет товарищей нет “There are no friends in color or taste.”

    For French I’d say, chacun à son goût

  36. Yesh, ozymandias. I have heard such a phrase. Though I’d be highly impressed if you can translate it into ancient egyptian for me. I wonder why people use the latin translation of it rather than the greek……….:/

    why are you such a fucking tryhard?

  37. There is in FATAL, the worst RPG ever.

    I’m going to start carrying around a picture of a Silence, so that whenever someone brings up that awful thing, I can look at the picture and instantly forget that the game was brought up.

    … Wait, I think there’s a problem with this plan, but I can’t think what it is….

    Speaking of how creepy the word panties is, did you know that one of Piers Anthony’s Xanth books is called The Color of Her Panties? I thought I’d either teach you that or dredge up your old memory of it, so that you could all shudder.

    I started reading Xanthe when I was 17 or 18, so it wasn’t long before my taste developed to the point that I put it down. At the time, he was writing about kids my age dealing with their libidos, so it didn’t seem all that creepy to me. It was only later that I started to think, wait, how old is this guy?

    And then I found Pratchett…. I’ve never looked back.

  38. ‘Mini’ is more of a children’s word, like ‘willy’ for penis.

  39. Monsieur sans Nom

    Az ízlés, nem lehet vitás

  40. I read my first Pratchett (Wyrd Sisters) aged about… nine or ten, I think.

    A few years later I read it again, and pretty much went O_o as I realised what that running joke about the old duke’s great big hairy thing, which I had previously assumed to be minor and inconsequential silliness, was actually talking about.

    Good times…

  41. I like “cunt” but it offends people. :( So pussy or vag it is.

    Oral sex gives me unsatisfying orgasms; unfortunately, I keep dating people who really enjoy it and so I put up with it because it’s not unpleasant exactly and I like making them happy. I have to say, though, when I meet someone who really hates the taste, it makes me so happy.

    I do remember one time when I was complaining about how unbalanced our sex life was to a then-partner and he was like “what do you mean? I ate you out for like half an hour yesterday.” Apparently it blew his mind to have it pointed out that that was *also for his pleasure*. :P

  42. I could translate it into ancient Egyptian, or middle Kemetian, but I don’t see any reason to do so for some random internet asshat. And it would be an unpronounceable transliteration mess without the proper hieroglyphic font, anyway.

    And does someone seriously use “cooter” referring to their genitals? As in their own?

  43. ” My boyfriend hates it for women and prefers ‘fingering yourself’ ”

    What does he propose for women who masturbate WITHOUT fingering themselves?

  44. Speaking of how creepy the word panties is, did you know that one of Piers Anthony’s Xanth books is called The Color of Her Panties? I thought I’d either teach you that or dredge up your old memory of it, so that you could all shudder.

    When I was about 11, my parents confiscated that book, and I was very indignant and convinced that they were being super-unfair.

    By the time I was around 14, I decided maybe they had a point. I think what made the difference was getting to be about the same age as all the nubile, frequently-topless-for-no-adequately-explained-reason underage girls with whom Anthony populates his novels and realizing that he was talking about girls like ME and ew ew ew ew ew ew.

  45. I like “cunt” but it offends people. :(

    That’s precisely my problem. I like the sound of it, and I think it’s a perfectly good word for the anatomy in question. So it frustrates me that it’s also a vicious insult.

    I really enjoy giving oral sex, personally. But if someone doesn’t want me to eat them out it’s not exactly a dealbreaker.

  46. What does he propose for women who masturbate WITHOUT fingering themselves?

    I guess we’re doing it wrong?

  47. I bought a book by Piers Anthony once, but I never could really get into it. I tried reading it a couple of times, but I never could get past the first twenty or thirty pages before losing interest. Well, I say losing interest, but that’s not entirely fair, as it implies there was some sort of interest to lose, and the book never really caught my interest in the first place. I don’t know why it didn’t interest me. I don’t remember particularly disliking anything. (Come to that, I don’t even remember the title of the book, let alone what it was about. I only remember that it was by Piers Anthony because I’d heard other people say good things about him as a writer and I was determined to give him a try.)

    It could be that the book I bought simply had a slow start. It could be that it simply wasn’t one of Anthony’s better books. It could be that it was a perfectly good book, but that it just wasn’t my thing. I’m not saying based on my experience here that it was necessarily a bad book or that Anthony was a bad writer. But given what so many people here are saying about Piers Anthony’s writing, maybe my inability to get into his work was all for the best.

    Terry Pratchett, on the other hand, is a completely different story for me. I read The Amazing Maurice and his Educated Rodents when I was ten or eleven and loved it. It quickly became one of my favorite books. So years later, when browsing the library at my high school, I came across The Color of Magic, and read it largely because I recognized the author’s name. My school library only had the first two Discworld books, but with a lot of trips to Barnes and Noble, I made my way through all of the Discworld books during my remaining three years in high school. Since then, I’ve also turned my middle-school-aged brother into a Pratchett fan.

    My dad’s decision to buy me The Amazing Maurice was one of the best gift decisions he ever made. I probably never would have picked the book up if it hadn’t been a Christmas present from him.

  48. howardbann1ster

    Envy!!! I read 20 or 30 Piers Anthony books before discovering that they were all not quite as interesting as they seemed when I was a teenager. And only then did I discover the wonders and delights of Terry Pratchett.

  49. @Jessay, I think that Boy Meets World clip is EXACTLY where I got my idea of how underpants should be said. Loudly. Proudly. And with mock seriousness.

    I love too how after everyone stated what they prefer to call underwear rather than “panties”, MSN has to then get all “well what are we SUPPOSED TO CALL THEM?” as if there were no other word in the world, and indeed, no word several other people hadn’t already provided on this very threat.

    As to “how can PUA’s be rapey” dude, we answered that on the FIRST goddamn page. Seriously, keep up. When you’ve got someone blatantly admitting he “pretends not to hear” when his partner tells him to stop doing something, that’s straight up “rapey” behavior. And I don’t know really why I’m bothering to explain this, since I think it’s obvious to pretty much everyone here minus you and a few other trolls, but just because someone consents to one kind of sex, it doesn’t mean they consent to another and “pretending not to hear” (in not-horrible-person-speak, we call that IGNORING) his partner’s words of “stop” is straight up ignoring non-consent.

  50. I read The Amazing Maurice and his Educated Rodents when I was ten or eleven and loved it. It quickly became one of my favorite books.

    Wee lamb.

    I read that when it came out. I was 22.

    And not to shame anybody for being young or anything, but goddamn where’s my cane?

  51. @Nanasha: have you considered that the sexual fantasies you describe could mean you have a sexual kink/fetish? There are guys out there who will role-play for you based on those scenarios if that helps you get off. For more information, look up Dan Savage and his column “Savage Love.” That helped and still helps me when it comes to figuring out my own kinks. There’s nothing wrong with you or your fantasies, and there are great partners out there who will explore them with you (probably including anyone you’re with now), if you talk to them about it.

  52. @Nanasha: I have a similar uninspired reaction to oral sex, and I found this amazing piece by Clarisse Thorne called “A Unified Theory of Orgasm” that helped me a lot. You might find it speaks to you too: http://sexlovejoy.com/a-unifed-theory-of-orgasm-by-clarisse-thorn.html

  53. @MKlein- That’s the thing- I’m married and in a relationship who would prefer to be monogamous…and he doesn’t really share most of my “things”… but I’m ok with that because most of those “things” are things that I can’t really do with a partner without feeling incredibly silly (I’m not going to have my partner pretend to be a tentacle monster, lol). And, true, it may be a kink/fetish, but it’s a kink/fetish based in fantasy and probably won’t translate very well to partner sex- so I really did have to re-train my sexual response when I started having sex with actual people.

    @MollyRen- Thanks for the link- I read Clarisse’s blog a lot, and that’s a very good article- I guess that maybe it just goes to show how harmful dominant narratives of what should be “sexy fun” can be, even if they’re positive (like, “give your female partners oral sex so they will feel good”). I mean, it’s EASIER in some situations to be the one who never orgasms or even feels good if you feel that’s the “way it’s supposed to be” and you have an uncaring partner. But it’s certainly not as fun.

  54. (I’m not going to have my partner pretend to be a tentacle monster, lol) – Nanasha

    Hah, that’s just asking for gigglefits rather than actual sexytimes. :P

  55. @aworldanonymous

    I know this is off topic, but how did things turn out with that guy who was trying to discredit you by referencing a comment he saw on a radfem blog?

    I just ignored him and he appears to have wandered off.

  56. I think that, for me, the most unsexy word for a part of a woman’s anatomy is “tit”. A while ago, I was cuddling with a guy who, while trying to be sexy, told me he loved playing with my tits. Completely killed my ladyboner. So we had to stop the sexytiems. ‘Twas rather sad. :(

    Also, I hear you, everyone who has said that they have trouble orgasming from oral sex. I have had some very pleasurable oral performed on me, and while I get aroused, I have never gotten off.

  57. Oooh, also, before I forget: while we’re on the subject of British English vs. American English, here’s my favorite “two countries divided by a common language” story:

    An American (male) friend of my aunt’s was working in London, and was having trouble with his slacks being too loose. He happened to mention this to a British coworker:

    Friend: Do you know where I can buy suspenders? I need to get a pair.
    Coworker: You need to buy a pair of SUSPENDERS? Why?
    Friend: To keep my pants up, of course!

    And thus the poor coworker was left with the image of my aunt’s friend wearing ladies’ underpants and a garter belt.

  58. Argenti Aertheri

    I’m going to start carrying around a picture of a Silence, so that whenever someone brings up that awful thing, I can look at the picture and instantly forget that the game was brought up.

    … Wait, I think there’s a problem with this plan, but I can’t think what it is….

    Oh shit… Well, maybe oh shit…did I have a point here? *wanders off* (I wonder if that’d work, if the “SCP-055 is not” thing could work on the silence? The Doctor does seem to remember info about them, eg they are not a species…)

    Lol at suspenders, the Doctor’s tend to make me giggle for that reason (wtf do y’all call those over there anyways?)

    …I appear to have nothing on topic to say, my apologies.

  59. @ShadetheDruid- Now I’m just thinking about the clip from “Ed Wood” where Bella Legosi is fighting with the paper mache octopus….

  60. I think part of my issue with cooter is that it sounds too much like skeeter, which makes me think of a vagina filled with buzzing insects (there’s a COVERED IN BEES joke in there somewhere). Not very sexy, that, unless you have a very specialized fetish.

  61. The reason why a majority of straight guys love the slang term “pussy” is because it brings to mind the animal CAT, and if you link that with the terms GIRL and/or WOMAN, then BOOOM! In case you didn’t know, for a majority of straight guys, CATWOMAN in particular and CATGIRLS in general
    top the list of all time favorite fetish/fantasy females…

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catgirl
    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CatGirl

    “What exactly is “rapey” about Pick Up Artistry?

    -MSN

    I pretended I don’t hear her the first time she told me to drill slower or not to go so deep.

    There ya go.”

    And the feminists on this board apparently really are different from other women. Just imagine, women who actually DON’T LIKE CUNNINGLUS nor FAST & DEEP PENETRATION? Then what have Women’s Magazines etc. been saying all these many long years? The mind boggles!

    “and ew ew ew ew ew ew.”

    Again, with the rad fems’ demonization of heterosexual male sexuality! Oh well, if rad fems didn’t demonize straight men, they wouldn’t be rad fems in the first place…

  62. I’m trying to figure out why someone would thunk suspenders/a garter belt was being used to keep underwear from falling down.

    That not how they work.

    As to cooter it’s not right, there is a sense of harshness to it, which lacks the earthy punch of cunt, or twat. It’s not even got the quaint charm of words like quim, or quiff (but I don’t think nomless was right; he was stirring the pot. He’s gotten much more trollish in the past few days).

  63. Pants means underwear over here.

  64. Morkai: I know that. But suspenders hold up stockings. They aren’t higher than one’s pants.

    They don’t work that way. The belt is at/below the waistband of the underpants.

    I can see it as a piece of embarrassment humor in a sitcom, but not in a real conversation, not unless someone has absolute zero familiarity with them,

  65. I like cooter, its cute and its a name for a little turtle.

  66. Off topic, but seeing as I know there’s Doctor Who fans here… This was just released the other day.

    Sooo stoked! XD

  67. Lol at suspenders, the Doctor’s tend to make me giggle for that reason (wtf do y’all call those over there anyways?)

    I am not English, but I do believe they called them braces at one point. Tolkien says Bilbo wears them in The Hobbit, in one of the early scenes with Gandalf in the Shire.

    I was mightily confused as to how Bilbo was blowing smoke rings with his thumb in his mouth….

  68. @Ponkz: Doctor Who is never off-topic.

    Neither is Gandalf. He is on-topic precisely when he means to be.

  69. We also call tooth-adjustment braces braces, just to be confusing.

  70. Ponkz: :O … *Brain asplode*

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