Keep digging: A Voice for Men ready to triple down on dishonesty in order to cover up mistake?
So the other day I showed you all in detail how someone at men’s rights hate site A Voice for Men fabricated evidence — in the form of a faked screenshot — in order to cover up an embarrassing mistake on their part. The person responsible for the fabrication appeared to be AVFM’s so-called “managing editor” Dean Esmay.
Well, now it appears that they’re going to triple down on their dishonesty and concoct more screenshots. In a “news roundup” from Esmay today I found this remarkable passage:
And going back to the story with the error I found a new “editorial note” from Esmay:
I can’t wait to see what on earth they’ve come up with this time. I encourage readers to take screenshots of all this in case AVFM decides to do any retroactive ninja editing as part of its plan to pretend it was right all along.
Meanwhile,those of you who have been following this story may be wondering: who is this Joshua Thompson? Well, it appears that AVFM — or at least Dean Esmay — can’t even get the name of the post’s author right. That’s right, AVFM’s MANAGING EDITOR can’t get the name of one of AVFM’S OWN WRITERS RIGHT.
The author was first identified on AVFM as Jason Gregory — and if you look at the bio for Jason Gregory on any of the other articles he’s written for AVFM, like this one, it points to American Idiocracy, the blog where the problematic Facebook post originally ran. (It’s now been replaced, on his blog, anyway, by a completely rewritten version.)
At some point, apparently by accident, AVFM changed the byline of the author to Jason Thompson, who appears to be someone else who wrote something for AVFM a long time ago. And now Dean Esmay is calling him Joshua Thompson.
Or maybe Joshua Thompson is his real name, and Jason Gregory was his pen name, and Esmay has accidentally doxxed his own writer. Who knows?
I suspect we have not yet plumbed the depths of AVFM’s dishonesty -or incompetence.
Posted on June 17, 2013, in a voice for men, drama, facebook censoring rape memes the world is ending oh no, gross incompetence, lying liars, MRA and tagged a voice for men, journalistic fraud, men's rights, MRA. Bookmark the permalink. 111 Comments.
They’re using the classic “No, you!” defense. It’s like catching a child who has gotten into ice cream, is covered in ice cream, and they say, “No, Mom, I didn’t eat the ice cream. You did”. However, a child caught getting into ice cream is much cuter and more endearing. The writers at AVfM are just pathetic.
And as much as they discuss DARVO (deny, attack, reverse victim and offender) at Shrinkformen, MRA’s sure are pros at using it themselves. But it’s kind of hard for them to rewrite history on the Internet, where people can take screenshots and google stores things in cache.
Mr Futrelle (see what I did there?),
I’m not a journalist, so don’t know, but from academia, isn’t it standard to not switch a person’s name when talking about them in an article? For example, MRA poster child for stupidity Thomas Martin is making a video. Tommy Martin said it will make money. Tomosaurus Martino declined to say whether female crew would be whores.
Easy: the screenshot isn’t fake, and neither are the search results they claim to have gotten, so David was lying when he said they were lying. You’ll see when they post more totally-not-fake screenshots!
If Leftwingfox gets to be Batman, can I be Hawkgirl?
Carnation, this is a blog, and I think you’re in the wrong topic. I tried to refer to Tom Martin consistently by his last name after the first mention but he is such a familiar character around here I am afraid I slipped up and called him “Tom” a couple of times. Are you going to revoke my blog license?
*Gives Marie a massive Nth metal mace.*
Social Justice League!
No David, he’s just going to fine you for appropriate use of colloquialisms and familiarity in a blog because it’s something to complain about.
Kind of reminds me of my friend’s mother. When she can’t find anything else for which to criticize you, she’ll tell you that you should wear a different color eyeshadow or something. xD
Squees!
I think Carnation’s joking about the inconsistent naming of Jashua Gregthomp.
Someone from AVfM tried to insult us because there are a lot of repeat commenters here and we joke around together?
Um, have they seen their own comment section?
And if that “cellar-dwelling” comment refers to site visitors, I would like to remind you there are TONS of blogs that get less hits than Man Boobz. Like mine. Some days I don’t even get into double digits. Harumph!
(Also, I am one of the hive cats that makes up David’s corporeal existence. I am a gray and white tabby, on the small side, and when allowed to roam free I like eating tuna, destroying drapery, and occasionally pooping right next to the litter box. Nice to meet you all.)
@ David
I was actually poking fun at Dean Esmay not managing his editorial role very well… He used Dave Futrelle and David Futrelle interchangeably, not exactly a huge deal, but just another example of how lame they are.
I wasn’t bei difficult!!
Someday, I will draw a
pictureself portrait of myself as a cute, zombie cat, as we all know is how I look.That was kind of related to what Cloudiah said but I didn’t connect it so it kind of looks like I thought-pooped in the thread
I’m also a hive cat. I’m a tiny orange tabby who likes to drink from the toilet and eat the weatherstripping in huge windows. My turn-ons are nose-licking, fleece blankets, and chasing my sisters. Howdy.
Sadly, I’m allergic to cats, so it’s impossible for me to be David. Although it would explain all the sneezing.
Imma lemur. David the lemur. Ring tailed Furtrelle.
http://i.imgur.com/dJKwViA.png
@inurashii
That’s a thing of beauty.
@Marie You are providing a fertile bed to grow an organic discussion!
I would be an aloof tuxedo cat who hates to be picked up, dislikes cuddling, and is never more than 5 foot from a human. I wouldnt drink still water, would vomit up every meal, and attempt to bury said vomit with papers knocked off the desk or clean clothes knocked off the bed.
I’m the golden retriever that lives in the same neighborhood as the hive cats and disappears for weeks, then gallumphs into the house and gleefully tries to push into the human disguise, causing cats to fall out the other side.
“many of which come from people with the same doofy sense of humor”
Did one of them just admit a feminist has a sense of humor? That’s actually sort of a breakthrough, isn’t it? Even if it is a “doofy” sense of humor, and even if he is a bunch of cats.
Well, that is a very kitty-like thing to do so I think you’re okay here.
@inurashii, That is not only a thing of beauty, it is also a joy forever. Made me laugh.
@inurashii
Perfect XD
I should confess to you guys, I’m not actually a cat, I’m two guinea pigs in a cat suit, in a human suit.
…I”m kind of complicated that way.
I was David, but I use a cream for that these days.
Marie: EEEEEEE your guinea pigs! I’ve been waiting for guinea pig pictures FOREVER!
Yay for piggies! I love this comment section - the ridiculousness of MRAs is kind of peripheral.
Not that it isn’t enraging and horrifying sometimes, but shit like this is just ridiculous.
I’m only David from 2:30pm-8pm on Tuesdays through Sundays.
Hey guys, I’ve got a thing next Monday. Can someone take my David shift?
@katz
Linked to them earlier, though I guess not everyone saw them, so it’s good I found an excuse again. XD
And sadly I have run out of quasi witty David comments, so I’ll just have to watch all you lovely folk.
katz, I’ll do your David shift if it overlaps with work. Nobody will notice.
Inurashii, that pic should be framed. In gold. With sparkles.
I’m a brown and white tabby with a penchant for sharing humans’ cereal and chronic indecision about which side of the door I want to be on.
I’m not David, I’m a school of cories and clown loaches. I’m an actual hive mind! (Sorta)
I was assuming that “doofy” was a typo for goofy. But I don’t see how it’s an insult to be compared to someone as lovable as Goofy. The MRA’s, on the other hand, are more like Scrooge McDuck.
That’s just how I imagine the scene in Pauly’s place when he reads something he doesn’t like on the Net (you know … people having happy lives instead of men going around beating women, or laws being passed that recognise “human” doesn’t mean “man” - that sort of thing).
The reason I post here so sporadically is because I am one of the seven cats in the left foot of the David suit. It is hard to type with a foot. BTW I am the scrappy orange tabby who likes to stick my head in boxes and howl until someone rubs my butt.
If we’re all David, then David spends way too much time on the cat avatar maker.
David IS the cat avatar maker.
Ahem.
Did I ever tell you that Mrs. McCave
Had twenty-three sons, and she named them all Dave?
Well, she did. And that wasn’t a smart thing to do.
You see, when she wants one, and calls out “Yoo-Hoo!
Come into the house, Dave!” she doesn’t get one.
All twenty-three Daves of hers come on the run!
This makes things quite difficult at the McCaves’
As you can imagine, with so many Daves.
And often she wishes that, when they were born,
She had named one of them Bodkin Van Horn.
And one of them Hoos-Foos. And one of them Snimm.
And one of them Hot-Shot. And one Sunny Jim.
Another one Putt-Putt. Another one Moon Face.
Another one Marvin O’Gravel Balloon Face.
And one of them Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate…
But she didn’t do it. And now it’s too late.
Dr. Suess
Crap. I mean, Dr. Seuss.
Could we be Power Rangers kitties in a giant David Megazord?
@kittehs
At last the conspiracy is complete XD
I am not a cat. I might be a stylish bird:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pecunium/3112613912/in/set-72157603860044740
and
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pecunium/1778406228/in/set-72157603860044740
but I can get a bit ruffled.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pecunium/1777554103/in/set-72157603860044740
but I am always Dave.