Return of Kings blog: High school girls are responsible for school shootings because they won’t have sex with nerds

A memorial for the victim of the shooting

A memorial for the victim of the shooting

Attention pretty high school girls! If a nerdy looking dude in your school shows up one day loaded with guns and Molotov cocktails and starts shooting up the place, it’s actually your fault, for not sleeping with him.

That, in any case, is the argument of a recent post on pickup guru Roosh V’s repulsive Return of Kings blog. In a post titled Why Did Karl Halverson Pierson Attack His School And Kill A Pretty Girl? guest blogger Billy Chubbs looks at a recent shooting at Arapahoe High School in Colorado, throwing out the few bits of information we do have about the shooter and making up a story of his own.

On December 13 2013, Karl Halverson Pierson walked into his high school with a gun, wounded a fellow student named Claire Davis and then killed himself. The assumed motive was Karl’s anger toward a teacher at the high school but others in the mainstream media posited their own theories as to the reasons behind the shooting. The usual suspects were called out to blame: prescription drugs, mental illness, gun control, etc. … One theory that was noticeably absent from the ‘experts’ who reported on the situation, however, was Karl’s probable sexual frustration.

His proof? The fact that the girl he managed to shoot and mortally wound before killing himself was quite conventionally attractive. Chubbs posts pictures of the shooter and the girl he shot, who subsequently died:

What do you notice right away? Karl’s not a stunningly handsome dude and Claire is a smoke show. As of this writing, there’s not much information on Karl’s sexual history. It’s doubtful that Karl had a girlfriend, and it’s likely that he was a virgin.

Chubbs makes clear that even if he’s completely wrong about all this, he’s not going to let mere facts stand in the way of his theory.

By the way, if further details are released in the future which discredit my assumptions, well, ignore the Karl parts of this article obviously. Yet even if I’m wrong in my assumptions of Karl’s life, the basic gist of this article is right and does apply to the majority of normally peaceful men who suddenly turn violent and perpetrate these tragedies.

And so he moves on to state what he considers his very brave thesis:

Return Of Kings has touched on this subject before, but since the cowardly and narrow minded mainstream media refuses to even consider positing such a theory, it’s up to us ROK truth sayers to repeat ad nauseum such observations: women’s selfishness makes men kill.

And by “selfishness” Chubbs means their unwillingness to shower sex on all men.

What do I mean by women’s selfishness? The majority of women are consistently sexual only with a minority of men. This is a fact. The percentages aren’t certain (some studies claim a 60w/40m percentage – I personally think it’s as high as 70w/30m based on my own empirical observations), but the basics are a sure thing.

If by “sure thing” you mean “completely wrong,” then yes. There’s no evidence to back up the oft-repeated manosphere myth that women are having sex with only a small percentage of men. The fact is that the overwhelming majority of adult men are having at least occasional sex. According to one recent survey of American sexual behavior, some 86% of men said they’d had sex in the past year; only 70% of women said the same.

In our society today, there are hundreds of thousands of young men with insatiable sex drives who are receiving little to no sex from their female peers—not even the less attractive women whom traditionally would be paired off with less attractive men.

Wait, someone on Return of Kings is suggesting that it might be acceptable for a man to date a “less attractive woman?” The sort of woman that Roosh and Return of Kings routinely ridicule, and ridicule men for dating?

Chubbs wants to have it both ways. He wants to play at being an alpha male, but he also wants the privileges of victimhood as a poor, oppressed beta. Indeed, in his bio, he describes himself, paradoxically, as a “bipolar, optimistic Alpha male who truly believes that Beta chumps like himself are doomed in today’s politically correct utopia.” Alpha or beta: which is it, dude?

In his post, he postures as an alpha even while recounting his own story of beta victimhood:

Life without sex is a horrible experience, especially when you’re a young man. Although I get laid consistently, I have gone long stretches without any sort of sexual contact with women.

Well, that kind of sucks, dude, but, you know, welcome to life. Sometimes life sucks.

It was gruelling.

No, the Bataan Death March was gruelling. You had a dry spell.  I’ve had dry spells. Everyone else I know has had dry spells. Virtually everyone in the world has dry spells. They can be really rough. But they’re not a fucking human rights violation.

My unfulfilled sex drive made me jack off on average three times a day—four or more on gym days when I upped my testosterone level.


NEWS FLASH: Women aren’t obligated to jump on your stick every time you get a boner.

For the vast majority of men their sex life is a central part of their character and a major part of their motivation for all aspects of their life. If men are barred from it (whether they actually are or merely feel that they are) for whatever reason, they feel little incentive for anything else; even if that incentive is to not go crazy and shoot people.

Wait, how did we get from, boo hoo I have to masturbate to, well I might as well just kill a bunch of people?

Karl wanted to have sex, and just by looking at him it’s obvious he wasn’t getting much, or any. Claire is a beautiful young woman and is doubtlessly the object of affection for many young men who know her, including lonely and sexually frustrated ones. Karl was certainly amongst them. Karl had no chance to ever be with her and he knew it. And that’s why he encountered her in his school, armed with a gun, he turned it against her.

So it’s her fault for getting shot by a dude because she didn’t fuck him?

Am I saying Claire should have known better and had sex with Karl in advance? No. Claire was for all intents and purposes (looks, status, wealth) far out of Karl’s league. Yet there’s little doubt that there were many, many women in Karl’s high school who were in his league.

Oh, so it was some other girl’s fault that Claire got shot, because this other girl didn’t fuck him.

So why wasn’t Karl at home relieving his sexual frustrations with a girlfriend on par with his looks instead of simmering in anger alone, writing typical angry teenaged political messages on his Facebook and purchasing guns? It is because the inherent selfishness of all women has been allowed to run rampant in our Western societies.

How is it selfish for women to choose who they want to have sex with? No one is obligated to have sex with anyone they don’t want to have sex with.

Women whose level of physical looks give them no right to be picky are allowed to chase after the upper tiers of men with no shame while men who are just as, or perhaps even a little more, attractive then themselves are forced to remain virgins into their twenties and are forced to wait until women’s looks begin to fade around the age of twenty-six before being given the chance to enter into a relationship with them.

What the fucking hell? What planet are you living on and how on earth, even if this were true, does this justify murder?

Also: there is no epidemic of American men “forced to remain virgins into their twenties” by evil women. Indeed, the average American male loses his virginity just shy of age 17, slightly earlier than the average American female.

And even then, the relationship is a farce. The woman has only entered it out of desperation since all the upper echelons of sexually enticing men who used to have sex with her have cast her off and she is emotionally damaged by her selfish experiences.

Really? This little narrative describes the life of precisely zero women I have ever met.

What future did Karl have to look forward to? Working a mediocre job (if he could even get one), living in a society that does not look out for him or his interests in the slightest (while often ridiculing the people like him in the media – when not actively selling out his future) and having to wait until he was twenty-five or older before being able to enter into a sexually satisfying relationship with a woman on par with his looks (who would be incapable of actually loving him by that point due to her dozens of sexual partners)?


Young men like Karl – who aren’t blessed with looks, or exorbitant wealth, or the top tier social skills of the small percentage of men who are getting laid – have been left in the dust by our female-centric, uncaring societies.


And society does not care until men like him pick up a gun and starts shooting.

And now we come to the blackmail portion of the rant: Sleep with us or we’ll kill you!

The assumed catalyst as to why Karl went on the rampage was that he was demoted by a teacher in charge of the debate team, and that this caused murderous frustration in him. Do you think Karl would have had so much murderous frustration if he was receiving as little as a blowjob every so often?

All he wanted was a blowjob! It is the sacred duty of every high school girl to seek out high school boys with the greatest surplus of murderous frustration and ease this frustration with sex.

So long as society encourages women of all ages to be the inherently promiscuous creatures they are and allow them to limit their sexual choices to the men at the top of the pyramid (when many of them have no right to), sexually frustrated men will continue to lash out with extreme violence.

Wait, so after demanding that women be more promiscuous, you’re berating them for being promiscuous?

Not that I’m surprised in the slightest.

The Columbine’s will continue. The Sandy Hook’s will continue. The Arapahoe’s will continue. Until society sits down and thinks over these problems with an unclouded mind, men will continue the shootings. More people will die just so Jane Doe can continue to ‘explore’ her sexuality until she hits the wall.

So young men should be guaranteed sex — OR ELSE THEY’LL SHOOT YOU — but young women are somehow evil for having sex with men who aren’t murderously frustrated nerds?

Of course, it’s always easier to scream, “PRESCRIPTION DRUGS! GUN CONTROL MENTAL ILLNESS!” and ignore the root of the problem and twiddle one’s thumbs until the next shooting. For many men, hundreds of thousands of them, they live in a mentally ill society. It’s a testament to either their humanity or their cowardice that more of them do not lash out like this.

And it’s a testament to your lack of humanity that you even think like this.

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Posted on December 30, 2013, in a woman is always to blame, alpha asshole cock carousel, alpha males, antifeminism, beta males, boner rage, creepy, empathy deficit, entitled babies, evil sexy ladies, imaginary oppression, men who should not ever be with women ever, misogyny, narcissism, not-quite-explicit threats, playing the victim, PUA, rhymes with roosh, sympathy for murderers, that 80%/20% bullshit, that's completely wrong, victim blaming and tagged , , , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 593 Comments.


    Chubbs – your ideas about life are truly and seriously damaged. I hope you seek severe mental health help in the future. I am very sad for you. Goodbye, forever.

  2. I hope you seek severe mental health help in the future.

    Please, Danica Kat, no! Do not conflate hatefulness and bigotry with mental health issues. You are insulting people with mental health problems and giving a free pass to asshats.

  3. What’s severe mental health help supposed to be, anyway? Does it mean that your therapist frowns a lot and speaks in a very stern voice?

  4. Perhaps it involves the Spanish Inquisition and a soft cushion?

  5. Noone expects the Spanish inquisition!

  6. Six whole hours (almost). Seven unicorns, four horses, carrots from Shaun, apples from Falconer, hay and sugar cubes from Rahu. Timer reset to midnight.

    *shakes head*

  7. I have some cake for your unicorns and horses. They can have cake, right? It’s lego cake, courtesy of The Church of England Inquisition.

  8. Our chief weapon is fear, fear and surprise.

    Argenti, did you get the oats I sent for the herd?

    Damn unreliable intertube postal service …

  9. Dweeby sex-starved Omega Rage? That’s a fair explanation.

    Blaming the girl murdered? Stupid and wrong. .

  10. it makes a sick kind of sense. Feminists are always bragging that humans are closer to Bonobos, where the females keep the males in line with sex, than chimps. All males in the troop of bonobos gets some on a regular basis. That’s not true in regular chimps. If you want human males to act like bonobos we need to get the bonobo bribe… or we’ll just go back to acting like war-like chimps.

  11. “Fuck me or I’ll kill people”

    Well, that sure is a reasonable position.

  12. …Bonobos, where the females keep the males in line with sex…

    Your interpretation of bonobo behaviour is unique.

  13. We’ll fuck all the males in the troop. If we can kick the asshole males out of the troop first. Like you, Seta-San.

  14. Even if it’s natural to kill people if you don’t get sex, that doesn’t make it right. Really, if men actually were like that, then I’d want them out.

  15. You know, I really can’t think of many things that would be less likely to make me want to fuck someone than the knowledge that they think they’re entitled to cause havoc if I don’t. Seta-San may as well go ahead and write UNFUCKABLE on his forehead with a sharpie.

  16. Seta-San thinks men will “behave like war-like chimps” if women don’t fuck them regularly but we’re the misandrists. What’s wrong with this picture?

  17. I’m always bragging to people about how like bonobos people are and how the females rule the troop with their mighty vaginas. ALWAYS! I’m sure you all do it too, right? Surely, that’s not a thing no one has done in the history of ever that SetaSam just pulled out of his ass.

    SetaSam, you know who else threatens violence if they don’t get sex on demand from people who do not want to fuck them? I’ll give you a hint: It rhymes with “papists”.

  18. The things I learn about us feminists here. So we are always bragging about bonobos. Was not aware, so thanks for the enlightenment.

  19. If I really believed that sex with women is the only thing that stands between men and mass murder, I wouldn’t be advocating for forcing women to have sex with any man who asks (which is just a nice way of saying “institutionalized rape.”) I would advocate locking men up where they can’t hurt the rest of us who aren’t barely-contained murderers.

  20. Well I for one bond with my friends and family by picking fleas out of their fur all the time. Doesn’t everyone?

  21. And how wonderfully tasteful to drop this after the article that blames a high school student for getting shot based on pure speculation about the shooter’s sexual history.

    Can we really describe chimps as “war-like?” That seems like ascribing human behavior to a non-human animal. And calling humanen animals who are unable to control their behavior.

  22. The kids get tick-picked in the summer. Does that count?

  23. Can we really describe chimps as “war-like?” That seems like ascribing human behavior to a non-human animal. And calling humanen animals who are unable to control their behavior.

    I still think an even worse example of this is when Seta-San suggests that female bonobos are having sex deliberately to calm and control the males, and not because it’s fun for them and they want to.

  24. I guess he thinks female bonobos have sex with each other for the benefit of the males, like in “lesbian porn” made for men.

  25. Feminists are always bragging that humans are closer to Bonobos

    I haven’t seen this, but then, I’ve only been a feminist for a few years. Do I need to compare myself to other primates more often?

    But you know what I have seen feminists saying? That we (un like seta-san and his ilk) believe that men are human beings, capable of decency, empathy, and restraining their baser impulses. When you say things like “wearing a short skirt is like waving a steak in front of a dog” or “men wouldn’t kill so much if they were getting laid”, you’re saying men are animals who can’t be trusted to treat their fellow human beings (and yes, that includes women) with an ounce of respect. But I guess it’s cool to dehumanize half the human race if it offers the slim chance of being given a pass for rape and murder.

  26. Am I seriously the only one with “bragging about bonobos” tattooed on my ass? Come on! I thought you were all feminists.

  27. I had my entire ass tattooed red. Oh, wait…that’s not bonobos, is it? SHIT.

  28. My local zoo has a troop of those red rump monkeys. I love them. They’re so cute and there always seems to be lots of babies. It’s a highlight of every zoo visit for me.

  29. it makes a sick kind of sense. Feminists are always bragging that humans are closer to Bonobos, where the females keep the males in line with sex, than chimps. All males in the troop of bonobos gets some on a regular basis. That’s not true in regular chimps. If you want human males to act like bonobos we need to get the bonobo bribe… or we’ll just go back to acting like war-like chimps.

    If I don’t get laid, I’ll beat the shit out of you?

    Right. You do know that male bonobos engage in homosexual liasons. You know that female bonobos choose whom they have sex with.

    I’ll bet you didn’t really know either of those, and thought it would just be cute to say, “nice gender you’ve got there, pity if anything were to happen to it”.

    Mind you, I happen to be a better human being than the sort who says, “beasts with no reason do it this way, and I want to be like them, so do what I say or I’ll fuck you up”.

  30. @Seta-San

    You’re making my gender look bad.

  31. Complete nonsense.

    FYI, my teenager attended this school with the shooter and was there when it happened.

    It’s disgusting that people are focusing on Claire as a target of some sort of frustration. She was not a snooty girl at all. She was well-liked, but not part of the popular crowd. She was a wholesome sweet girl who minded her own business and had a lot of outside activities. Even if she had been a snot, she didn’t deserve to be shot. It’s sick that people would think that just because she was pretty she had “airs” about her and looked down her nose at people like the shooter. She did not. Besides, she had the right to choose whom she wanted to spend her time with just like anyone else on the planet. She was shot because she was in the way. Period. A young person with a bright future died and the people on this blog are ticked because pretty girls don’t want to date them. Get a grip.

    The shooter had girlfriends and apparently went to Prom every year – I saw his Prom photos with a pretty girl on his arm. He was not conventionally handsome, and he was strange, but he did have girlfriends. What’s your excuse? This “oddball weirdo” had girlfriends and everyone on this blog is making him out to be sort of a martyr for guys who can’t get laid. Wow, you guys have to come up with different role models..

    He was bullied, but not in the traditional sense. People liked to provoke his hair-trigger temper However, he had been well-liked by many people who are now beating themselves up because they feel they misread him, he betrayed them and put them in danger. He killed a completely innocent girl that had nothing to do with him. She was just in the way. Anyone would’ve been innocent.

    Up until the time he snapped, he was not a loser. He was a kid with a bright future who ruined it for himself and an innocent girl. He could’ve ruined the lives of more people had he not been stopped.

    No, no sexual frustration for this kid. He had girlfriends. He was a nerd, but that didn’t prevent him from having girlfriends.

    This doesn’t excuse what he did – what he did was horrible. However, mischaracterizing him as a misunderstood guy who couldn’t get dates in order to validate your own lack of ability to attract women is disgusting.

    You’re all as stupid as the Roosh guys.

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