Factchecking a list of "Hateful Quotes From Feminists"


Making a list, checking it twice.

Periodically, in the comments here, someone will post a dubious list of “evil feminist quotes” they have found on some Men’s Rights or antifeminist website. These lists are always faintly ridiculous, filled with decades-old quotes from a handful of radical feminists (most notably, Andrea Dworkin), most of whom have been soundly criticized by other feminists and whose ideas have been rejected by the majority of feminists today. The lists also tend to be very sloppily put together. When I’ve gone to check the accuracy of these lists, I’ve invariably run into problems — one quote may have come from a character in a novel, another may be a quote that doesn’t reflect the author’s own point of view, and so on.

Recently, one of the antifeminists who regularly comments here (Cold) posted a link to one such list, helpfully titled “Hateful Quotes From Feminists.” It’s fairly typical of these sorts of lists: many of the quotes are decades old, there are ten quotes from a single radical feminist — yes, Andrea Dworkin — and the list is sloppily put together.

I decided to give this list a fairly thorough fact-checking. And the results were, well, more or less what I expected, which is to say that the list was a sloppy mixture of truth, half-truth and outright falsehood.

The story, in brief: Some of the quotes I checked were indeed accurate — or mostly accurate. But several quotes were simply imaginary, or uttered by fictional characters; one was a complete misrepresentation of what the author was saying; two were paraphrased, which is to say, words put in the mouths of feminist authors by feminist critics; some were from obscure or anonymous sources, and in a few cases it wasn’t clear if those quoted were feminists at all; several were improperly sourced. There were a number of quotes that didn’t specify where they were from, and which turned out to be impossible to check. And then there were a couple of quotes which were not actually hateful at all.

I didn’t check everything in the list, but –if you have the patience for it — let’s go through what I did check, as a sort of case study in the shoddiness of much antifeminist propaganda.

Let’s start off with the very first quote:

“In a patriarchal society all heterosexual intercourse is rape because women, as a group, are not strong enough to give meaningful consent.” Catherine MacKinnon in Professing Feminism: Cautionary Tales from the Strange World of Women’s Studies, p. 129.

We’re off to a bad start here. This is not a quote from MacKinnon. The words were in fact written by Daphne Patai and Noretta Koertge, the actual authors of “Professing Feminism,” a polemical book critical of feminism. They purport to summarize the views of MacKinnon and Dworkin, though, as Snopes points out in its debunking of the false quote, both M and D have specifically stated that they don’t believe intercourse is rape. Apparently the quote was attributed to MacKinnon in a column by right-wing columnist Cal Thomas, which is evidently how it entered the land of antifeminist mythology. Somewhere along the line, Catharine had her name changed to Catherine.

Then there’s this alleged quote from Andrea Dworkin:

“Heterosexual intercourse is the pure, formalized expression of contempt for women’s bodies.”

According to Wikiquote, this quote is quite literally fictional:

The first appearance of this quote is from P: A Novel (2003) by Andrew Lewis Conn as a quote from the fictional feminist “Corinne Dwarfkin”. The original reads “In capsule form, my thesis is that heterosexual intercourse is the pure, distilled expression of men’s contempt for women.” In the slightly altered form given above, the quote is attributed in several books to Andrea Dworkin. Neil Boyd, in Big Sister (2004) attributes the quote to Letters from a War Zone, however, this quote, nor any one with similar phrasing, appears in that work.

Indeed, our listmaker seem to have a lot of trouble quoting Dworkin correctly. A bunch of the quotes are taken from her book Letters From a War Zone, which I happen to own. The first quote I checked was this one:

“The newest variations on this distressingly ancient theme center on hormones and DNA: men are biologically aggressive; their fetal brains were awash in androgen; their DNA, in order to perpetuate itself, hurls them into murder and rape.” Andrea Dworkin, Letters from a War Zone, p. 114.

It’s a weird quote, which sounds a lot like it’s coming from the the middle of a complicated argument. That’s because it is. And when you read what precedes it, it becomes clear that  it’s NOT a statement of Dworkin’s own beliefs. She was in fact summarizing (in her own words) the beliefs of “male supremacist” sociobiologists like Edward O. Wilson. It may or may not be a fair summary of their views, but that’s not the point: it’s NOT what she thought. Later in the paragraph, in fact, she compared these views to Hitler’s.

The other quotes from the book are more or less accurate. Words are missing, moved from one sentence to another, verb tenses are changed; they’re very sloppy transcriptions, but at least they aren’t complete and utter misrepresentations of what Dworkin wrote.

There’s also quote from Andrea Dworkin that’s listed as being from “Liberty, p. 58.” Dworkin never wrote a book called Liberty. But I found the quote in what seems to be a scholarly work; it’s evidently from Dworkin’s book Our Blood.

Finally, there are a few other alleged quotes from Dworkin; they don’t have sources listed for them. I found the quotes elsewhere online — but only on dubious “quote pages” and other iterations of “evil feminist” lists. They sound Dworkin-ish, but given the listmaker’s track record I have no faith that they are actually real, correctly transcribed Dworkin.

It’s bizarre. How hard is it to find hair-raising quotes from Andrea Dworkin? Dworkin was so radical that most feminists disagree with her, sometimes violently. You could practically pick a sentence at random from almost any of her books and chances are good it would offend somebody — including me. A number of her writings are available online. How lazy and sloppy do you have to be to fuck up your Dworkin quotes like this?

Let’s now turn to Marilyn French’s famously fictional quote:

“All men are rapists and that’s all they are.” Marilyn French in People, February 20, 1983

Oh, the quote is real — she wrote it — but it is not a statement of French’s beliefs. Nor did it originate in People magazine. It is a line of dialogue from her book The Woman’s Room. Wikipedia, take it away:

Following the rape of Val’s daughter Chris, Val states (over Mira’s protests), “Whatever they may be in public life, whatever their relationships with men, in their relationships with women, all men are rapists, and that’s all they are. They rape us with their eyes, their laws, and their codes” (p. 433). Critics have sometimes quoted Val’s dialogue as evidence of French’s misandry without noting that the passage is only spoken by one of many characters in the novel.

Now, it’s true that this sentence was quoted in People magazine — in the issue of Feb 20 1979, not Feb 20, 1983 as claimed. It’s not clear from the rather sloppy People article that this is a line from the book, but it is.

In the article, French notes that the book is partly based on her experience — drawing on the emotions she herself felt after her own daughter was raped.

“Sometimes I felt so violent about it and how the courts treated her,” French admits, “that there seemed no recourse but to go out, buy a gun and shoot the kid who did it, and the lawyers too. I couldn’t help my own child.” Plenty of that rage made its way into The Women’s Room. “I’m less angry now. Being too deep in anger corrodes your interior.”

So, again, it is very clear that the “all men are rapists” quote is meant to reflect a character awash in rage and pain; it is not an ideological statement of misandry.

The “Hateful Quotes” list also contains a bunch of quotes from people I’ve never heard of; they’re obviously not major feminist figures, and may not even be feminists. Gordon Fitch? Never heard of the guy, and can’t find anything about him online.

Hodee Edwards? Never heard of her either, and I can only find a handful of mentions of her online, but she’s mentioned in the footnotes of a Catharine MacKinnon book, and it looks as though she is, or at least was, a feminist with Marxist leanings. But there is no way to even find out what the source of the quote is — a book, an essay, a quotation in a news story? — much less actually find the source and confirm that the quote is real.

EDITED TO ADD: I’ve been contacted by Hodee Edwards’ granddaughter, who tells me that her grandmother never said or wrote the quote attributed to her; while Edwards was indeed a Marxist and a feminist, she was not anti-sex. (The faux quote in question claims that all sex is rape.) Edwards has recently passed away, and her family members have been, the granddaughter tells me, “very distressed to learn that this quote has somehow been linked to my grandmother’s name on the Internet.”

Then there’s Pat Poole:

Melbourne City Councilwoman Pat Poole announced her opposition to renaming a street for Martin Luther King: “I wonder if he really accomplished things, or if he just stirred people up and caused a lot of riots.”

Who the hell is Pat Poole? I looked her up, and yes, she was a city councilwoman in Melbourne, Florida, but I was unable to find out much beyond that. Is the quote accurate? I don’t know. There’s no source given, and I can’t find the original quote online. Is she actually a feminist, or is the author of the list simply assuming she is one because she’s a woman?

And then of course there is the anonymous “Liberated Woman” whose quote ends the list. She definitely sounds like a feminist. We just don’t know for sure if she or the quote are real.

Moving on, I can’t help but notice that a number of the allegedly hateful quotes are in fact not hateful at all. Take, for example, Barbara Ehrenreich’s quote about the family, which is in fact part of a sharply written essay on “family values.” You can find it here.

Here’s another distinctly non-hateful quote:

“Women take their roles of caretakers very seriously and when they hear of someone who’s taken advantage of a child, they react more strongly than men do.” – Kathleen C. Faller, professor of social work at the University of Michigan

Faller, if she did indeed say this, may or may not be correct, but it’s hard to see how this is “hateful.” Women on average spend much more time caring for children than men do and it may well be that, on average, they react more strongly than men. I couldn’t find the quote in question — again, this is because the listmaker didn’t actually provide the source — but her faculty web page is here.

Then there’s this “hateful” quote on religion:

“God is going to change. We women… will change the world so much that He won’t fit anymore.” Naomi Goldenberg, Changing of the Gods: Feminism and the End of Traditional Religions.

The quote is real; Goldenberg is indeed a feminist theologian. But here’s a little newsflash: There are lots of people in the world, feminist and non-feminist, who do not believe in traditional notions of God. Or in God at all. Nietzsche famously said “God is Dead,” Richard Dawkins says God is “a delusion,” and about 80 zillion internet athiests (many of them not feminists in the slightest) regularly compare belief in God to belief in unicorns, fairies, and Santa Claus.

I checked out a few other quotes on the list. The Hillary Clinton quote is accurate; the source is here.  The Barbara Jordan quote appears in a Texas Monthly article here.

The quote from Catherine Comins — a favorite “evil feminist quote” amongst MRAs — has its origins in a Time magazine article, but it is not actually a quote from her; it is someone else’s summary of what she told Time in the article in question. Nor do we know the full context in which she spoke.

I don’t have the time or patience to fact-check the rest of the list. If anyone out there happens to have time and/or patience, or happens to own any of the books that are cited as sources, feel free to fact check it yourself and post your findings. (EDITED TO ADD: triplanetary has risen to the challenge, and has factchecked the rest of the list, as well as offering some excellent commentary on the alleged “hatefulness” of many of the quotes. You can find the post here.)

The numerous errors in this list — some minor, some huge — say something not only about the creator of this list but about all those who’ve distributed this list without, clearly, bothering to check anything in it .  (Or, in the case of Cold, to contine to distribute a list he’s pretty sure is less than reliable.) Is this the result of laziness, or dishonesty? A bit of both, I imagine.

But I think this list is also a symptom of the tendency of many in the Men’s Rights movement to inflate the evils of their opponents. So many MRAs are so determined to prove that their supposed oppression is worse than that of women, and so determined to blame it all on feminism, that they need to make their opponents larger than life and twice as nasty. Given that the feminism they fight is largely a paranoid fantasy, bearing very little resemblance to feminism as it actually exists in the world today, it’s hardly shocking that a number of the quotes on this little list are fictional — and that none of the MRAs posting this list here and there on the internet seem to have even noticed (or, if they have noticed, to care, or at least to care enough to stop distributing the list). When you’re fighting phantoms in your own mind, the truth doesn’t really matter, does it?

Given how poorly this list held up to my fack-checking attempts, from now on I will consider this list and others like it spam, and delete any comments that  link to them.

If any of you antifeminists still feel the desire to post “evil feminist quotes” in the comments here, you may do so, but only if you (or the list that you link to) provides clickable links to the original sources of the quotes in question.  If you can’t provide a link to the source, I’ll delete it.

When I quote from MRAs and MGTOW-ites and other misogynists on this blog, I provide links to the sources. What’s so hard about that?

EDIT: Fixed links, and a few verb tenses.

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About David Futrelle

I run the blog We Hunted the Mammoth, which tracks (and mocks) online misogyny. My writing has appeared in a wide variety of places, including Salon, Time.com, the Washington Post, the New York Times Book Review and Money magazine. I like cats.

Posted on February 15, 2011, in antifeminism, evil women, further reading, lying liars, MGTOW, MRA, Uncategorized. Bookmark the permalink. 274 Comments.

  1. >Inspiration!Inspired by triplanetary's monumental effort, I have rearranged the quote list in chronological order, to see if any patterns suggest themselves. Results can be found on my blog here.

  2. Thanks. I encountered some of these recently on Pharyngula and while I didn’t consider doing the fact checking myself, they did seem a bit odd. Thanks for taking the effort and sharing.


  3. I’ve no problem with feminism – in fact, it’s a good thing when done properly. But, too many people (male and female) are using it to attack other equally valid points of view. http://coffeelovingskeptic.com/?p=602

  4. Care to explain what this piece of comment spam is actually pretending to say?

    Because if you have actual criticisms of feminism (and there are many to be made), share them.

    If what you want is a bump you your piece saying it was all Rebecca Watson’s fault… then you’re being an ass.

  5. I believe that extremism will always make the worst of the best. I am a Christian and I believe that God made man first for three reasons: He was practicing, He wanted man to be able to have a last word, and He wanted man to believe that he was the strong sex. However, who gives birth? To me that is the supreme test of strength. If men did, no woman would get the chance to impregnate a man for the second time! We would have died as a race long time ago.
    I also believe that there is nothing like intercourse where both want it so much it hurts, where each wants the other one to enjoy it more than ever before, and where there is an emotional tie. Without this, it is only sex, or masturbating with a partner.
    Ah, I forgot to say that I am a man, heterosexual, who has been in love many times, but has loved sparingly. Who loves the female body, what woman is, and who finds that She is God’s top of creation.

  6. Kinky sex oppresses men? Who knew?

    Also, these guys need graphic design 101.

    …And what is with the old fashioned 1930s print style anyways? Nothing says irrelevant to todays generation than old timey anachronistic black and white crap.

  7. The second quote, from Dworkin, is absolutely true.


    It seems you might deepen your research.

  8. Uh, while (as I acknowledged) some of the Dworkin quotes were accurate, or roughly accurate, the second alleged quote from Dworkin on the list I examined does nott, in fact, appear on the page you link to. What quote are you talking about?

  9. According to men like you nothing a woman ever says is hateful. Nothing a woman ever does is wrong. 11 years as a feminist, and one of the reasons I walked away is that the overwhelming majority of feminists are no less hateful than the average MRM. They are also no more accurate in their ‘facts’. You sir, are in fact, a misogynist. You can’t believe for a second that women are not perfect, that gender roles or even a single female has done harm to a male. Read a little more, and you will find that views of the unblemishable female, females needing protection, not consequencing violent female behavior are deeply rooted in misogynist beliefs.
    The average MRM and feminist can only be distinguished by which gender they wish to harm.
    Dworkin was only criticized because her abrupt(at the time) honestly made the movement look like it was populated by hateful man hating people.
    Both side have legitimate beef, polarized idiots like you, who dehumanize men, and pander to women, perpetuate the sickness of gender norms as much as anyone.

    So Women and children first.
    A boat with 5 people(or from your perspective, 3 people and 2 men). 2 men, 2 women and child.
    The child is a no brainer. One of the people on the boat is a child murder, one a child molester. They are not of the same gender. However, by your contorted logic of female life being worth more than male life, the child will end up on lifeboat with either a murder or molester.
    I bring this one up because it is a largely controverted argument. One which absolutely relies on an outmoded notion that the value of a persons life is determined by gender.(again, nothing you’ll readily comprehend.)
    For people like you, who lack any form of empathy or logic to tame it with, the notion of actual equality will forever be an elusive construct. Women who hate men as a category suck. Having sex ed turned into a class on how young girls should be distrustful of boys because they are rapists, is not an acceptable thing. Think real hard about your own bias.

  10. this rough beast

    Delurking and weighing in. Women – as earlier stated – have better fine motor skills, better balance, can survive longer without food, and are more flexible.

    Pain tolerance and mental health are less helpful metrics because men underreport pain – see: the patriarchy telling men to “man up” and “boys don’t cry” which isn’t helpful for men. And women are more likely to admit to mental disorders and seek help. Culturally there is a lot of shame for a man seeking help for mental health issues. See: the patriarchy imposing unfair restrictions on a man’s emotional spectrum.

    Measuring genius is also unhelpful. Women have only had access to schooling recently. You can’t argue women had a lot of schooling options in 1950, even. Especially women of colour or other scocio-economically disadvantaged women. It’s like arguing that only white men are geniuses because in the past XYZ years we haven’t seen any Black geniuses. It’s an idiotic argument because slavery and other oppression.

    Women perform equally well in science and math when given equal opportunity and in many countries there are either equal numbers of women in STEM or, increasingly, more women than men. See: America not being the be-all, end-all of the world. Women who are educated in single-sex education outperform their co-educated sisters which indicates bias in the education system towards a male-learning model.

    Women are more rational when it comes to high-stakes decisions because they’re not motivated by testosterone feedback. See John Coates’s (a stock exchange dude who did studies in neuroscience) book, “The Hour Between Dog and Wolf.”

    Women have better community-orientated survival skills (and groups survive better than “lone wolves”).

    They have also, throughout history and to this day farmed (so did children!), mined (as did children!), sailed (yup, there were kids here too – also see modern tall ship sailing and women), fought in wars (as did children!), worked heavy machinery (as did children – do you see where I’m going with this?), worked in engineering, and all that stuff while still gestating, birthing, and raising more humans. See: Victorian studies on miners, women working in WWII, third-world countries etc. etc.

    (A random factoid: the first woman to climb the Matterhorn did so in hoop skirts and a walking corset. I’d say that’s more impressive than whatever dude got there first in trousers.)

    Women rape less, commit less murder, have been the cause of less genocide, ecological crisis, and financial brouhaha than men. So how, I ask you, are women inferior? And before you ask for citations, please know that I am not going to wade through over a century of scholarship into Victorian mining conditions, warfare pre WWI, education reports and journalistic and scientific studies. I’ve done my research, you can do yours.

    Also, hello! Manboobers? Manboobies? Fellow creatures who wish MGTOW would GTOW and GTFO. I’ve loved this site for years and I’m finally slouching out of the shadows to comment.

  11. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    Hello, this rough beast, glad you’ve delurked! Come join the action on the live threads, not many regulars will see a new comment on an old one.🙂

  12. Also welcome this rough beast (love that name, btw)! I am glad people are still looking at this one, though I second The Kittehs’ suggestion.🙂

  13. cecil where the fuck did you get the idea that we don’t think men are badly affected by gender roles or that women have hurt men before I WOULD THINK THAT WE ACTUALLY TALK QUITE A BIT ABOUT THAT

    how many young boys are beat by their parents every day because of the patriarchal notion of “manning up”?
    how many young boys have KILLED themselves because they never fell in line with this ideal?
    how many young boys have never had a friend because people shun them for not being enough of a man?

    THAT’S gender roles hurting men, we acknowledge it fully, and we want to smash the hierarchy that has caused so much pain to young boys. so tell me again that feminists don’t believe men are hurt by gender roles, because i guarantee you i don’t know a single feminist who would disagree with me on this.

  14. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    Hey Cecil idiot – ever read the posts and comments here about hateful women such as DriverSuz, or Girl Writes What, or TyphonBlue, or Ann Coulter? You’re talking out of your arse, sonny, and frankly I doubt you were ever a feminist, or had a clue what it’s about.

  15. A Priest, a Rabbi, and a duck walk onto a lifeboat. One of them is a molester and one of them is a murderer. The bartender asks “why the long face?” The bartender is shot by Andrea Dworkin because he’s a man and doesn’t matter.


  16. I doubt you were ever a feminist, or had a clue what it’s about.

    Most “former feminists” I see around the webbernet appear to have had no clue what it’s about. It’s a pretty reliable effect. The only exception to the rule I’ve seen is the woman who was allegedly plagiarized by Amanda Marcotte—and she went from Feminism to Womanism, I believe.

  17. thebewilderness

    I think you are mistaken about the pain issue, Rough Beast.
    Different things hurt different people more than other things do. There are some wrist techniques that give me the yawns while others drop me to my knees. Empirical evidence, I know, but this has been observed to be the case with different people over many years of teaching unarmed defensive tactics.

  18. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    There are some wrist techniques that give me the yawns while others drop me to my knees.

    I had a completly OT and smutty mental image with that.😛

  19. There is no smutting in martial arts!!! NO Smutting!😉

  20. My favorite (radical)feminist quote is:

    Science is male rape of feminine nature

    ~Sandra Harding.

    Who referred to Isaac Newtons Principia Matematica as a “rape manual”. LOLz

  21. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    She also later said she regretted that characterisation. You might want to update your stories, Purple Star.

  22. Well in that case Kitteh’s Unpaid Help, at least she had the wisdom, the decency, and the ever so slight dose of humility and respect for for facts to admit that she said something really stupid!

  23. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    Oh, and wtf is it with you stupid trolls and your necro-threads? Are you SO desperate to get the last word (won’t happen) or so shit-scared of talking in a live thread? Either way it emphasises what losers you are.

  24. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    It’d also be a first for any of the MRM to admit they were talking nonsense. I’m not holding my breath, though.

  25. I also wonder if Purple Star actually understands what is so bad about what Sandra Harding said. My guess is no and that they have no knowledge at all about the history of misogynistic science that would lead someone to make that rather unfortunate characterization.

  26. Is this a game of pulling the most stupid quote?

    Tom Martin:

    Female penguins are whores

    I get bonus points because he never

    had the wisdom, the decency, and the ever so slight dose of humility and respect for for facts to admit that [he] said something really stupid!

  27. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    Kiwi girl wins!

  28. Purple star seems to be MDMA so that would explain the clarity of logic and quality of argument in the posts. /sarcasm

  29. Purple Star, can’t play on a current thread? You suck.

  30. @hellkell, now that’s just giving quicksand and sink holes a bad name!

  31. Well in that case Kitteh’s Unpaid Help, at least she had the wisdom, the decency, and the ever so slight dose of humility and respect for for facts to admit that she said something really stupid!

    Which seems to put her over you.

  32. Uh, I don’t see the point these people are trying to make. I mean, yeah sure, feminists can in fact say some fucked up shit. Like really fucked up. But uh, so what? Big deal. Just because one feminist acts like an asshat doesn’t give you the permission to act like one yourself.

  33. Yeah they generally don’t have (valid) points. I’m of the opinion that the MRM exists to justify acting like asshats (or worse, oh gods the rape apologia!)

    Come comment on an active thread though?

  34. I was just debating mentioning that Dworkin quote (“Heterosexual intercourse is the pure, formalized expression of contempt for women’s bodies.”) in the article I’m writing for the new feministborg.com site, but couldn’t find any support for it being pure fiction. So I decided to see if they had Intercourse available in the open library.
    Turns out it’s not pure fiction, she does use very similar words in that book:

    Intercourse is the pure, sterile, formal expression of men’s contempt for women

    So, uh, skeptic fail there.

    I would quote a greater section for the proper context, but it’s starting to look like that section would be the entire chapter. Still, it seems like she’s talking about the social climate around sex more than the sex itself. Sections like this:

    Can intercourse exist without the woman herself turning into a thing, which she must do because men cannot fuck equals and men must fuck: because one price of dominance is that one is impotent in the face of equality?

    Which comes up a little later in the same chapter, would seem to suggest there’s more to her argument than sex=hate. More like, sex-in-a-world-which-asserts-that-women-are-less-than-men=hate.
    I’ll have to read the whole thing properly later.

  35. RE: Athywren

    You have just discovered why I have never brought myself to read freakin’ Dworkin. It’s like getting hit in the face with a verbal brick. God, academics, could you be a LITTLE more accessible? (And I say this as someone who has read a fair number of scholarly articles on multi.)

  36. Yeah, I don’t understand why academic writing seems to *have* to be so deliberately dry and opaque. I swear, one of my friends just had his chapter rejected basically because his writing style wasn’t boring enough.

  37. Verbal brick? Moar like verbal house! Amirite gaiz? Fuh.
    I’m sure it’s supposed to make sure that what’s read is precisely what was intended, but it’s a mother-lode generator for quoteminers.

  38. RE: grumpycatisagirl

    Yeah, I don’t understand why academic writing seems to *have* to be so deliberately dry and opaque.

    The cynic in me wants to say it’s for class reasons. I get it, every field has jargon… but does it HAVE to be so ivory tower?

  39. Of course the author of this article didn’t want to “fact check” all, or even close to all of the evil quotes by feminists stated by against anti-misandrists.
    Because you clearly cherry picked the ones that were “dubious” to imply the whole bunch as discredited.
    Keep in mind, that most of those quotes were only the extremes. There are countless examples of less-extreme sexist remarks made by feminists.

  40. Oh, and trying to say that since sexist anti-men remarks were in a book, in no way disproves the fact that Misandry exists.

  41. Well, it’s pretty clear you didn’t actually read the post, because in the post I link to a post elsewhere that does actually look at the rest of the quotes.

    Here’s the link, in case you’re too lazy to find it in my post:


    Does it bother you that MRAs are passing around false information about feminists in lists like this, or is that fair in your mind because feminists are so eeeeeevil anyway?

  42. Oooh, Misandry with a capital M! Do tell us why it needs a capital letter, o wise one. Assfax are always entertaining.

    ::waits with rapt attention::

  43. “Anti-misandrists”…snicker. Can’t be arsed to write out “MRAsshats”, can you?

  44. “Oh, and trying to say that since sexist anti-men remarks were in a book, in no way disproves the fact that Misandry exists.”

    Oh, and trying to say that since wizards were in a book, in no way disproves the fact that Magic exists.

  45. I’m fascinated to learn how many false statements a list is allowed to contain before it’s no longer considered accurate information.

    I’m also going to assume that, since they’re still defending this particular list, there haven’t been any new quotes to add in the last three years.

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  47. Word salad, it’s what’s for lunch!

  48. Dafuq? No link… is this a spambot taking a coffee break?

  49. Good grief, a spambot without a link? What’s the world coming to?

  50. Horse ebooks, is that you?!?!?!

  51. I got a robocall from Carnival Cruise this morning. It was sophisticated enough that when I asked, “are you a recording or a real person?” the (female) voice laughed merrily and replied, ‘oh, I’m a real person!’ So I said “fish taco”.

  52. You talked to Samantha West? Nice!

  53. Well done!!! When people realize you cannot bash someone into loving and committing and caring about you then maybe we will see a shift.

  54. Wow, looks like you tried to debunk anti feminism and you only helped to support it. Typical. There are mountains of other quotes by the same people that are proven accurate, so, anti-feminism still wins the debate. You also have no sources, so this is only an empty claim of yours.

  55. Links? We are only impressed by books, nonfictional ones too. Do you believe in the myth of the patriarchy? If do then you are evil and we dont need those quote to expose your religouse belief system for what it is. The mere idea that men as a gender oppress women as a gender is what makes feminism evil. Men have always cared for women, and people like you are nothing but disgusting haters who need an excuse to spread your hate.

  56. “most of whom have been soundly criticized by other feminists and whose ideas have been rejected by the majority of feminists today. ”
    —-except on YouTube apparently, at least under any video that comes up under a search for ‘feminism’. If YouTube is anything to judge by then no feminist is ever ridiculed by another feminist except, possibly, once in a blue moon, in the sweetest mildest of ways. I’m thinking that KiteTales might be a feminist. If so then she very sweetly, very politely disagreed with Anita Sarkeezian. Once.

  57. Joe, if you go over to the comments on this post on this very blog:


    you will find feminists critiquing other feminists, quite harshly, right this very moment.

  58. @Tom

    Wow, looks like you tried to debunk anti feminism and you only helped to support it.

    Reading for comprehension is not a skill of yours, is it Tom? Don’t be embarrassed. Just admit you didn’t understand the OP.

    Links? We are only impressed by books, nonfictional ones too.

    Who is this “we” of whom you speak? Are you royalty?

    If do then you are evil and we dont need those quote to expose your religouse belief system for what it is. The mere idea that men as a gender oppress women as a gender is what makes feminism evil. Men have always cared for women, and people like you are nothing but disgusting haters who need an excuse to spread your hate.

    Oh, sweetie, you really have no clue what you’re talking about, do you? Best if you leave the talking to the grown-ups.

  59. But @Joe has found all the evidence he needs on Youtube. If it doesn’t exist on Youtube, it never happened! /snark

  60. So, “joe” and “tom” are two different people? Yeah?
    Why does it seem like they actually live in bizarro land?

  61. here’s a quote: “Feminism is the idea that we can make both sexes equal by focusing solely on the issues of one of them.” -TJ Kincaid?

  62. …because the so called “amazing atheist” totally understands feminism better than all of us.

    Nice try.

    Continue going your own way, please.

  63. Every month. You could set your click to it.

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