Irony alert: MRA who cannot master simple punctuation attacks black women as “ignorant.”

Do you like your Men’s Rights activism plain, or with a side order of racist bullshit? Regular readers of Man Boobz will remember Christian J, the man behind the blog What Men Are Saying About Women, a self-described “Male Renaissance Agitator” and inventor of the MRA two-dot ellipses. (Heck, I wrote about him just the other day.)

Well, now he’s really outdone himself with a foul racist tirade directed at what he calls ”one of my favourite loathe subjects and that is ‘Black Women’.”

Christian’s excuse for this tirade is a video he found of a white woman complaining about a black woman who was rude to her at a restaurant. According to him, the video addresses the following “issues.”

1. Black women generally suck..

2. Black Women are so full of themselves..

3. Black Women have major issues cause they can’t get no man..

4. Black Women are “strong” in their own mind, make that “stupid” and “Ignorant”. as well..

5. Black Women lack the basic social graces and also basic sanitary habits..

To this he adds:

Black females have wallowed in and adopted the feminist’s hate doctrine as statistics have already demonstrated, single mothers stands at 70% and similar divorce stats. also demonstrates that they are incapable of keeping in a relationship, whatever excuse they justify in their own minds. They are to be avoided at all costs as any black man/dude/bro will testify..

Having read all this, I expected the video to be some sort of White Power rant. It’s nothing of the sort. While the videomaker, a sort of wannabe Pamela Anderson, makes a few problematic and arguably racist comments here and there, she doesn’t actually make any of the sweeping racist generalizations about black women that Christian attributes to her. Nope. That’s all him.

About David Futrelle

I run the blog We Hunted the Mammoth, which tracks (and mocks) online misogyny. My writing has appeared in a wide variety of places, including Salon,, the Washington Post, the New York Times Book Review and Money magazine. I like cats.

Posted on March 1, 2012, in antifeminism, antifeminst women, idiocy, misogyny, MRA, racism. Bookmark the permalink. 158 Comments.

  1. I’m of Irish decent, and I got nice and drunk last night, too.



  2. “I have better things to do than be ms.represented by a she-demagogue who is a feminist first, and an anachist or a libertarian last, if at all!”

    *dies laughing*

    Oh, Meller, you go tell all the dollies and white supremacist what a bad fake libertarian you beat on the internet. I’ll go have a birthday party with my family and then organize some real-world libertarian stuff.

  3. All I have to say is that DKM is one of the very few people whose posts regularly cause me to do the Futurama Fry involuntary eye squint meme thing, specifically:


    Thank you, DKM. If it weren’t for you, I might not have realized that I could come across opinions so nonsensical as to cause my brain to momentarily short out, a la Fry, and require a second go-around. As with Fry, I remain unsure of the answer to that question.

  4. Hmph, imagine a line break in between TROLLING and OR.

  5. And you imagined that I thought that Ami (girlygiggles xD) Angelwing’s posts served no purpose but cheerleading! They don’t, but nevertheless, they exposed Zhinxi’s outlook and temperment regarding all communications with me regarding not only feminuttery, but also anarchism and polycentric law.I have better things to do than be ms.represented by a she-demagogue who is a feminist first, and an anachist or a libertarian last, if at all!

    Um… Mellertron… what are you talking about? xD (also, apostrophe usage >_> )

    I… exposed Zhinxy’s outlook? xD But it was all part of a plan to expose her but not have you notice but you saw through our diabolical scheme? -_o

    That makes no sense. If my posts were exposing some evil scheme of her, why would I make them at all? What’s even the point of hoping you don’t notice them? xD

    My posts are to Coles Notes summarize the problems in your arguments xD

    For example, your reading comprehension remains… well not… low… more like… out there… because you seem to read stuff people haven’t said. I ask you to quote where people say things but you refuse, so either you know they came from nowhere, or you realize you misread/skimmed and are embarrassed xD

    She said that for the most part, your knowledge is stuck in the 80s and everything after that is fringe.

    Nothing you’ve said has disproved that xD If you want, you can say new things! But you insist on just being racist and complaining about how Zhinxy’s kicked your butt and insisting on misspelling her name because that’s the only way you know how anymore to insult her, cuz you’ve LOST EVERY ARGUMENT😄

    When your only tactic left is deliberately misspelling her name, Mellertron, you’ve lost. xD

    You’re a joke here now, Mellertron. You started out all blustery and Libertariany, and YOU’RE the one who’s been exposed. xD Zhinxy’s introduced people here to Libertarianism that actually isn’t racist and hateful like yours, she’s exposed your knowledge as being out-dated, or insufficient, and you’re not even known as the Libertarian troll now, you’re just the guy who likes dolls and can’t spell a 5 letter name. xD

    How the mighty have fallen xD

  6. David K. Meller

    Zhinxi, there are quite a few “white supremacists” who are both more consistant and more knowledgable libertarians than you have shown yourself to be. For all of your venom directed against what I have said on manboobz, you can’t cite ONE case where I have argued for, or pushed for coercion in any form, whether with “houses of entertainment”, police and courts–no, Pecunium, they are not, and could not be, “hired bully boys”, they are all well-paid, prestigeous, multidisciplinary experts in conflict resolution. They are selling their EXPERTISE in a free market environment, and their income, as well as the integrity of their ‘brand name’ depends upon how well they avoid the use or threat of force, except as a last resort–insurance services, defence services, a part, but only a small part, of conflict resolution/arbitration that makes up a market based, as opposed to a government monopoly, provision of police, army, or courts, that defaces our current types of society.

    How would they be funded? The same way that the provider of ANY goods or services would be “funded” in a laissez-faire, private property based society! Gone shopping lately?

    girlygiggles xD–I never said that I was an “expert” in libertarianism! I introduced myself (and liberty) to these pages, and to you manboobzettes, as one who was basically nonpolitical (which I am), and as an admirer of libertarian thinkers, e.g. Murray Rothbard, Ludwig von Mises, Thomas Szasz. et al… which I also am. I am also a resolute supporter of gold as money, which is a sine qua non for devotion to peace, liberty, and prosperity, and you, zhinxi, are the first–and ONLY–libertarian whom I have met anywhere (if you are even one) who is not singlemindedly and wholeheartedly pro-gold 100%! I also have come out for peace, civil liberties, and INDIVIDUAL rights whenever I could. Maybe you think it is “racist” to deny “black rights” or “sexist” to deny “womensrights”, as not existing at all, but it is the most libertarian application of rights theory (and one endorsed by our friend Rothbard), as you would easily know if you had ever read ANYTHING he had written on the subject!

    Girlygiggles xD, I hate to “burst your bubble”, but your friend zhinxi, whether I spell her name correctly or not, is either no libertarian at all, or one who is in no position to comment upon another’s supposed ignorance of the subject. If I have been reluctant to point this out before, it is precisely because I have more important things to do, then to defend what shouldn’t have to be defended.

    I could go on, but I think that I have made my point. I would put my libertarian

  7. CassandraSays

    That last Meller comment cuts off rather suddenly. Did Evan make a break for freedom?

  8. It’s not as if Mellertron had even mentioned “Candlejack” or someth

  9. Crumbelievable

    He had to run or he’d be late for a cross burning.

  10. The guy who directly advocates forced prostitution introduced freedom? That is not freedom by any definition in the real world.

  11. omigod is dkm trying to play tough guy? that is fucking precious.

  12. dkm i will take your intellectual bona fides more seriously when you discover a topic you can discuss without waxing florid like a lovestruck teenager. which is to say never.

  13. dkm discovers thee are other strains of libertarianism besides incoherent white male rage, cannot handle this fact, blames everyone else. exactly no one is surprised.

  14. Meller: Since you don’t really read the responses you get (at least not more than seeing the words, content and context being something you refuse to pay any attention to), let me sum up the substance of your comments.

    They have none, you are full of shit, which you pretend is meaningful in some way.

    If even a small percentage, So… it’s not true, only a few people do it, but we can treat all the rest as if they are evil in that way. It’s not racist, it’s true.

    Again, you are full of shit.

    But you don’t like it that people who share your opinions are racist. You don’t want people to say mean things about you. YOU have the power to prevent it.

    Stop being a racist.

    I realise this is sort of like telling you to stop hating women. You like being a racist. You like hating women. You just dislike that people point out you are a racist who hates women.

    Sucks to be you.

    Again, the power to prevent people from pillorying you is in you hands.

    Stop being a racist who hates women.

  15. Meller: One could argue the Irish didn’t change, but the English (and the Americans descended from them) were finally, like a puppy who shits on the rug, forced to see they were wrong.

    Sort of like racists today need to grow up and see they were wrong.

    The last point which I shall make here is that NOWHERE have I said that Africans were “inferior”, not on manboobz, and not anywhere else.

    Bullshit. You have been careful to make it deniable… you are just talking about, “how ‘those people’ behave”, but you say they are not as well-mannered as “us”, you say the stereotypes are true (even if only a few of, “those people” are actually like that), and then you pretend that because you didn’t use words like, “welfare cheat” or “n*****”, you didn’t say they were inferior.

    Once again you lack the courage of your convictions. You think people who aren’t white are beneath you. You have repeatedly said that if white people don’t get to run the world it will go to shit.

    But you don’t want us to think you look down on these people who aren’t as, “evolved” as you, and your fellow white men (because you don’t think women; except the rare mutant is ever smarter than a 12 year old boy).

    You Are A Racist.

    So go with being a misogynist, of the sort who hates women, as well as looks down on them as sub-human.

  16. Meller:

    Zhinxi, there are quite a few “white supremacists” who are both more consistant and more knowledgable libertarians than you have shown yourself to be. For all of your venom directed against what I have said on manboobz, you can’t cite ONE case where I have argued for, or pushed for coercion in any form, whether with “houses of entertainment”, police and courts–no, Pecunium, they are not, and could not be, “hired bully boys”, they are all well-paid, prestigeous, multidisciplinary experts in conflict resolution.

    Certified by whom? In what disciplines? Overseen by whom?

    Who shall make anyone accept their decisions?

    When you say, “handed over”, that means the thing handed over is property. You have said (more than once) that women would be, “handed over”. You also say that women might be, “allowed” to get an education.

    Those are both terms that have, at their core, coercion. One who is not constrained (that is, compelled, that is coerced) is not in need of being, “allowed” to do anything.

    You live in a fantasy land of Jargon and dreams, fueled by J. Neil Smith novels and dreams of being in charge of your life, responsible to none but those you choose to be, and free of all those women, and people of color who remind you that you aren’t a king, nor a Tarnsman.

  17. Oh no and woe, Lord Meller would put his libertarian…

    Where? Oh god, where? Where are you putting your libertarian!

    Meller, you do know that everything on this site is archived, and we can go back, and everything I said and you said is still there? I can see you obviously attempting to rewrite history with the claim I never gave you anything but “No a few suggestions of recently publsihed works on her part citing her “libertarian feminuttery”, a kind of merger between standard feminism and libertarian thought doesn’t count as a discussion of anything, least of all when they are offered, not for purposes of knowledge-sharing, but simply to score debating points against me!”

    Errr… Yeah. Okay there, Meller.

    For the last time, I’m for polycentric law, but your version of such is incoherent, I agree with the basic thesis of Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature, but argue that a Libertarian conception of equality is deeper and richer and MORE egalitarian than such, and I have nothing against gold. I’m against a gold standard, just as I am against the Fed. Gold is fine money, other than the many ethics involved in its mining. And you must damn well be aware of Hayekians and Friedmanites out there. Not exactly gold-bugs. If you haven’t MET any, well, that doesn’t surprise me, you seem pretty isolated.

    But you know, come on up here sometime, I’ll invite a big bunch of libertarians, left right and center, serve cake, and give you free reign to explain about the Houses of Male Entertainment, that you have to think about giving women the right to contract, that you’re PROBABLY not in favor of enslaving women outright, and what a crazy feminutter I am for criticizing the arranged marriages in Meller-land, and of course – HOW NONE OF THIS INVOLVES ANY FORCE AT ALL. and you see how it goes over.

    All I claim, Meller, is that I’m involved with libertarianism. I’m nothing special, but I do know people and organize things and talk to people. I’m definitely on the far- lefty side of the spectrum, but I don’t cause shrieking and hyperventilating. Except, of course, from you, Head Libertarian.

    And you can’t claim that, or you would. All you have is your dolls, and people on white supremacist and MRA sites. But as I’ve claimed, you’re isolated there. Your connection with libertarianism outside of that is filtered through there. And you aren’t particularly educated and coherent on any subject, from defense services on the free market to basic Austrian ec.

  18. Meller is losing it as far as trolls go. He’s getting to be a veritable EN, with drive-bys of boilerplate.

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