Paul Elam on “stupid lying whores,” Rebecca Watson, and how he never claims to be a victim even though he totally is one.

Paul Elam, in a rare moment of calm

In the fast-paced, perpetually busy world of today, we don’t all have time to read every post on A Voice for Men. So here is an edited version of Paul Elam’s latest post, on Rebecca Watson of Skepchick. And whores. And how he personally doesn’t spend all his time claiming to be a victim, even though he totally is one, in case you forgot since the last time he reminded you of that.

Here’s Paul:

Whores … typical whore … Main Street walking, garden variety anybody’s whore … honest whore. … corporate whore … corporate whores … whorish sexual symmetry … stupid whore … stupid whore … whore … lying whore … whore  … lying whore … whore … lying whore … corporate whore … a lying whore can also be a corporate whore … whoring for the cause … whore … PZ Myers … stupid, lying whore … not just a lying whore who also happens to be a stupid whore … a different subspecies of whore altogether … stupid, lying whore … whore that rigorously abandons intellect, rationale, evidence, decency and compassion, and also fosters much deserved hostility toward themselves … stupid, lying whore … stupid, lying whore … .

Paul Elam, meet Tom Martin.

Speaking of stupid, lying whores, let’s discuss Rebecca Watson’s latest article … about how she and other women who trash and demonize men regularly are helpless victims, getting nasty emails and tweets from some people who don’t like it. … Once [sic] such comment came from an individual who penned, “Hope Dawkins will bestially rape you…in the elevator to hell.” …

I have a keeper file of death threats, but I never wrote an article about them. I have been hounded recently by half the media hacks in Canada …  it does not even compare to John the Other facing a gang of 20-30 assholes on the street, some wielding box cutters … 2 plus 2 equals stupid, lying, whining whore. What John and other MRAs are starting to encounter every day, and the future of what is to come, makes getting bestially raped by Richard Dawkins sound kinda funny. We just don’t get the luxury of playing the damsel in distress, nor do we want it.

There are maybe 1200 more words to his post, but I think you probably get the gist of it.

Watson’s post, by contrast, is worth reading in full.

About David Futrelle

I run the blog We Hunted the Mammoth, which tracks (and mocks) online misogyny. My writing has appeared in a wide variety of places, including Salon,, the Washington Post, the New York Times Book Review and Money magazine. I like cats.

Posted on September 9, 2012, in a voice for men, antifeminism, drama kings, grandiosity, harassment, irony alert, johntheother, misogyny, MRA, oppressed white men, paul elam, rape, rape jokes, sexual harassment, shit that never happened, victimhood, whores and tagged , , , , , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 304 Comments.

  1. @kittehs- your picture of Hadji literally made me squeal with delight. *squee*

  2. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    I think Anti-Logic Force Field would be a great band name.

    Or a way to repel Vulcans.

  3. One thing you have to say about Owly, he’s not sneaky or covert at all – all of his prejudices and fucked up ideas are right out there in the open.

  4. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    @M Dubz, thank you!🙂

    I should find the ones of him when his adult fangs were coming through over his baby ones and he looked like the Baby Kitteh Gary Oldman Dracula.

  5. yesplease!

  6. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    I’ll have to scan them in tonight! (Old days, acutal film cameras, lol.)

    Now let’s see if I can post a pic of Famous Praying Hadji

  7. I decided to Google these B4UACT people to see just how seriously the psych community is taking them (not very, it looks like, thankfully). But ugh, they have a YouTube channel. Is there some sort of YouTube promo campaign that’s all “please join us and post your terrible awful very bad not good ideas, creepy horrible people of the world!” that I’m not aware of? Because any time I venture outside of the cute videos of animals and music realms I find YouTube downright alarming.

  8. Please give Hadji a treat to thank him for making me feel better.

  9. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    I’ll think a thought to him, Cassandra, he passed over three years ago.🙂

    I wouldn’t know an REM song if it hit me over the head, but this pic always makes me think of the cover of one of their albums – was it called Monster?

  10. Aw, I’m sorry! I lost my first kitty last year, it was really tough.

  11. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    I’m so sorry! It’s always bad when they go, even when you’ve seen it before. Never gets easier.

    This is the ‘don’t tickle mah belleh!’ of current No 2 cat

  12. My new cat will actually let me rub her belly without attacking me afterwards. She’s one of the only cats I’ve ever met where that whole rolling on the back and exposing the fluffy belly thing is not a trap.

  13. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    Cat2’s is a trap but not a very serious one. She’ll do the collapse-on-the-floor and look-at-me-I’m-so-cuuuuuute thing, but when I tickle her belly she just makes little whiny noises and braces her back foot on my hand. Not exactly a ‘Now I’ve got you!’ response!😀

    I think she’s actually coming around to being cuddled. She’s always allowed short cuddles but the other day she not only purred but did the kneading thing on my arm. She’s weakening …

    Say, does anyone else here have a cat that likes to have an audience while eating? Cat2 is forever coming up and rubbing ankles, then wanting us to follow her to her bowl and watch while she eats a few nibbies.

  14. My old cat wanted me to sit with him and pet him while he ate.

  15. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    M Dubz, it’s not the picture I was looking for – that one doesn’t really work for a scan, alas – but here’s Hadj in his baby Drac days.

  16. @Princessbonbon

    By the end of this I’ll end up undergoing full conversion into a belligerent drunken party boy. IN-TOX-I-CATE!!!

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  18. Cat #1 loves belly rubs! But they’re the most social, needy cats I’ve ever seen, both of them. Right now Cat #2 is tugging at my arm because I pulled away to type this. He’s a cuddle-start motor.

  19. Say, does anyone else here have a cat that likes to have an audience while eating?

    No, but when our Boston Terror puppy was little, she liked to have an audience when she pooped. She’s do her special “come look at me shit!” bark. It was weird. And cute. Weirdly cute.

  20. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    LOL I think Halite wins that one!

  21. Say, does anyone else here have a cat that likes to have an audience while eating? Cat2 is forever coming up and rubbing ankles, then wanting us to follow her to her bowl and watch while she eats a few nibbies.

    Before I moved away from my parents’ house, we had five cats who ALL required an audience while eating. I wonder if it’s some instinctual danger-prevention technique. Because cats view us as bigger, fleshier cats with thumbs, and maybe they think we’ll protect them while they eat their, uh, kill.

    Now we just have two (I say “we” but I don’t live there now) and they’re still pretty needy in that department, even 5 years later. If you leave while they eat, they will come find you. You better not even THINK about going back to bed! What if I don’t like what you put out? What if I need crunchies sprinkled on top of my wet food? I DEMAND WATCHING AND I WILL KNOCK EVERYTHING OFF THE TABLE AND BAT AT YOUR DOOR UNTIL YOU WATCH MEEEE.

  22. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    ROFL that way outdoes Cat2’s need for an audience, chocmintlipwax!

    And then of course there’s the “I did a wee/poo and you must clean the litter NOWWWWWW!” – Cat1’s usual trick.

    Or lining up to be the first to use the new litter, having shown NO need to use it before she heard the bath (we use a plastic baby bath, good for all those deep mining operations) being cleaned. That’s Cat2’s other specialty.

  23. Every time I look at the AVFM website, I am amazed at how sick and angry these men are. I have to wonder, what drives this paranoia.

  24. Interesting that you advocate not fully reading Elam’s post but advocate fully reading Watson’s.

    >What John and other MRAs are starting to encounter every day, and the future of what is to come, makes getting bestially raped by Richard Dawkins sound kinda funny.

    What’s being pointed out is that we also receive death threats but we don’t constantly brag about them as if they must come from those who oppose us in arguments.

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