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Sorry, I’ve been busy this weekend. (See photo above.) New post coming tomorrow!

About David Futrelle

I run the blog We Hunted the Mammoth, which tracks (and mocks) online misogyny. My writing has appeared in a wide variety of places, including Salon,, the Washington Post, the New York Times Book Review and Money magazine. I like cats.

Posted on November 25, 2012, in announcements, off topic, open thread. Bookmark the permalink. 139 Comments.

  1. It’s a wonder MRAs’ brains don’t melt and trickle out of their ears, I swear.

  2. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH that scene freaked me out the one time I saw that movie!

  3. I don’t normally pimp my work on here, but I swear this is relevant: I have a piece in the upcoming comics anthology The Big Feminist But. Read my story, “My Horrible Heroines,” in the preview and feel the misandry wash over you!

    Come to think of it, I probably should’ve posted on here when I had a comic in the anthology Kitties.

  4. @2-D Man
    Congrats 2x Combo

  5. This just popped up on Shit Reddit Says about an hour ago: the “Good Girl Gina” meme analyzed. It’s a downer, but systematic and illuminating.

  6. I love the fact that a placeholder post, albeit one with a gonzo superlatively hilarious pic (David, you do have a genius for the visual), garners in a fairly short amount of time over 70 responses.

  7. Cat of Many Faces

    That pic tells me that old timey furries were almost as wierd as us modern ones.πŸ˜›

  8. I’m so sick of winter already I can hardly stand myself, and we’re barely a month in. We got snow about a week before Hallowe’en, and it stuck around. And kept coming. And it’s been hovering around minus 20 C. I’m sick of sweeping snow off my truck, and shoveling snow off my deck, and cold wind, and clouds. Bleh. I need to re-think my life and somehow make enough money to become a snowbird.

    (Although, I find it kind of comical how cold -20 is on the way down, and how balmy and warm it is on the way up.)

    For people with Reynauds, you might have heard of this, but here you go again:

    There’s a kijillion different makes out there, but the point is, they keep your fingies warm while computing.

    In other news, I finished Nano today on my lunch break. I’m in shock. First time completing 50K.

  9. *Fist bump*

  10. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    Well done, Unimaginative!

  11. πŸ˜€ I’m so thrilled I hardly know what to do with myself. (Mind you, most of it is crap, but it’s fifty thousand words’ worth, so cool.)

  12. Just make sure to get it all finished so we can swap and read in December.

  13. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    Speaking of 50K word counts – is there a rough estimate of how long a book that would be? I’m thinking ordinary paperback rather than trade paperback, say. Probably far too vague a question given different fonts and so on, but does anyone have any ideas?

  14. About 200 pages or a little less. Too short to really be publishable as an adult novel, which is why most people don’t finish when they hit the 50k mark. (Of course I write novellas, so mine are usually a lot shorter than that!)

  15. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    Argh! That is short. I started a sort of memoir ages ago, and it got well and truly stuck at the 57K mark. Bummer.

  16. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    PS I should have started that comment with “thank you”!


  17. Yay for 2-D Man and unimaginative! And all the other NaNoers. Will we non-writers be able to read too?

  18. I’ll certainly court as many beta readers as I can get. Not super happy with how this one is going, so I’m looking at a few serious rounds of revision.

  19. Congratulations, Shaenon! It’s brilliant.

  20. Shaenon, way cool — both the whole project, and your contribution.

  21. To be honest, I didn’t write anything worth reading. I’ve stalled out and failed miserably at every past nano, so my goal this year was to just write fifty thousand words. A lot of it was talking about my lunch, and my frustrations with my job, and how many more words I had to go until I reached that day’s goal. The idea was to get in the habit of writing every day, and, um, not failing miserably again.

    So, you know, mission accomplished. I think, just out of curiosity, I’m going to cut out the bits of actual story and see how much that amounted to. Sadly, not very much, I’ll bet.

    My other goal was to get over my hesitation to write sex scenes (I feel all awkward and self-conscious writing them, but you know, I’m trying to write romance novels, and I like the kind with smut in them, so I kind of need to write them). I made a little progress there, but again, nothing that I’d want anybody else to read.

  22. I’m also doing NaNo, and I’m about done. If any of you are interested in reading my work, I’ll be happy to partake in the novel swap as well.πŸ™‚

  23. Count me in for reading if you want a reader; I can’t really swap anything since I’ve never written a novel. I could send you my thesis, but your eyes would probably glaze over…πŸ˜‰

  24. Unimaginative- Please don’t sell yourself short, at least you made the attempt, and you succeeded in making the word count. πŸ™‚ This year was my first time ever attempting NaNo; I was lucky that I had a story that I was able to keep going. It may not be my best work right now, but once I’m done with a few months’ worth of editing, it’ll be much better.

  25. cloudiah- My story may be a bit strange, but you are more than welcome to read it.πŸ˜€

  26. @Pecunium: Ooh, which ocean? I’ve been playing that game for ages. I met my girlfriend through it, in fact, so it holds a special place in my heart.

    On the Fox article: I always love it when Fox (or other media outlets, but let’s face it, it’s usually Fox) tells me all about the things I “won’t hear in the media” without a trace of irony.

  27. @PsychoDan: I also really enjoy it when politicians chastise other politicians for making an issue political.

  28. Sorry to be AWOL again today; sometimes I just hit my limit with misogynist creepoids and have to clear my brain with Hitchcock movies and Doomsday Preppers (which I may now be sick of) and by making mixtapes. There will be a new post tomorrow, though (well, later today), and you can take that to the bank!

    (Don’t blame me if the people at the bank look at you funny, though.)

    In the meantime, I’m glad Cloudiah has pointed you to a new troll to play with.

  29. Also, I’ve banned a certain other recent troll whom I’m about 99% sure was a certain other oft-banned former troll.

  30. @ Tracy Bradley – condolences on your puss ;(

  31. David, would that be the same troll that was plaguing a thread at freethoughtblogs. Where he said “I will only cloak my IP address once”?

  32. @Pecunium

    Yeah, I wear mitten-gloves outdoors (with koalas on because I am secretly five). I’m usually OK indoors – more so here because we don’t actually have a working freezer, as long as there’s some central heating. Although I lived one year in a Young Ones-style* house, where we couldn’t afford gas or electricity most of the time. In fact it was the year of the 4-month snow, and I was writing my dissertation wearing 4 pairs of socks, two pairs of leggings, jeans, pyjama bottoms, three t-shirts, two jumpers, a hoodie and a dressing gown, a wooly hat and a pair of gloves. It was also a very old and poorly-insulated house.

    (*I hope this reference translates to US-ians)

  33. @ nat

    I had no idea that I had Reynauds at the time, but when I was at the boarding school of “suffering will toughen you up” in Scotland I used to sleep in a thick jumper, wooly socks, a hat, and gloves, because it was so fucking cold. And then one winter the dorm window was jammed open and they decided that we didn’t need heating till January, so we experimented with leaving milk and cream cheese out to see if it was actually cold enough for perishable foods not to spoil (it was).

  34. o_O

    …did it toughen you up?

  35. Probably? It also gave me bronchitis that lasted for at least 6 months, though. I do think that still being required to play hockey and lacrosse in the rain and snow while I had bronchitis was a little unreasonable. Basically it was kind of like a military school, but with mandatory ballroom dancing lessons.

  36. Jesus wept. That does not sound fun at all. How old were you?

  37. I think 12 when I got sick? 11-17 while I was there. But hey, I never got bronchitis again after that, so maybe it worked!

    (Please note – no, this is not actually a good way to protect children from illness.)

  38. Hey gang, I know I’m late to the party, but I’d love to jump on the beta reader bandwagon. I’d be happy to critique or just read & encourage anyone who tried nano or just wrote something.

    I’d also be happy to send my novel to people who are interested in reading and/or critiquing it; it’s gonna be about 110/120k all told and the first draft should be done by the end of the week.

    I think it should be worth reading; LBT can vouch for meπŸ™‚

  39. Still slaving away on my nano; 84000 right now. I want 100,000 by Friday. Make it so, number one!

    …but I’m not sure anybody would actually want to read an angry screed that starts out as a kind of Charlie Stross ripoff sorta thing and then gets into an angry screed about religion and sexuality and punching zombies’ heads off. And then there’s a twist, and it turns out to be an even ANGRIER screed against religion. And so on.

    I think I was working out some personal issues there. Cheaper than good therapy. And hopefully better written.

  40. Hey, has anybody seen the #1reasonwhy hashtag on twitter and the articles that it’s generating? It’s women in the video game industry talking about why sexism in the video industry is a problem. Of course, it’s bringing a lot of clueless misogynists out of the woodwork, especially on noted man-cave Kotaku.

    As somebody who works in a notably woman-friendly video game company, this is of serious interest to me.

  41. That’s pretty much how much my NaNo entry came about; some personal shit happened, and it all came out in a story. I agree, it IS better and cheaper than therapy.πŸ™‚

  42. @inurashii–yes, and the number of people who’ve actually said some variation of ‘what? wow, I had no idea’ is kind of … heart-warming and infuriating, all at once?

  43. @ inurashii and howard: on the plus side, Carla Brunei says there’s no need for feminism anymore, on account of she’s quite happy being a stay-at-home mom. So, you know, I guess our work here is done.

  44. Still slaving away on my nano; 84000 right now. I want 100,000 by Friday. Make it so, number one!

    …Wow. And I thought I was doing well (59k).

  45. katz- I know, right? Now that’s some serious dedication!

  46. I’ve heard of people doing double or even triple nanos, but I’ve never myself laid eyes on one before. *back to typing*

  47. Neither have I *also does more typing*

  48. Well, back in 2007 when I did my first one… I discovered that I work well under pressure.

    (this has also had some effect on my work life)

    So now I just live for November. I spend months pre-planning. Because I get more done in one month than I do all year because the whole WRITE WRITE WRITE RIGHT NOW motivation factor works better for me than anything else I’ve tried.

  49. I really need to try NaNo sometime… I’m just so lazy… :p


  51. Me too, Bagelsan… that’s why it works so well for me. Because it breaks me out of routine and forces me to confront the laziness head-on. It might work for you too…..

  52. All the cool kids are doing it. Wait, are we the cool kids? Or are we those weird nerdy kids that the cool kids make fun of? And then we get total revenge because we mature into beautiful swans and they just get old and uncool.


  53. I’m not going to lie; it’s taken a bit of a toll on my schoolwork, but I know I can catch up.πŸ™‚

  54. I’m going with weird nerdy kids turned swans. At least, that’s certainly true in my case.

  55. I remember when I was young and cool.

    No, wait, I remember when I was young and on the student newspaper and asking earnest questions and BEING A TOTAL FUCKING ASSHOLE RIGHT-WINGER.

    ….I can only hope I ended up being something other than that. Swan, nerd, I’ll take it.

  56. PS: once a nerd, always a nerd. In youth I participated in contests to see who could memorize more digits of pi. You… you can’t take that back once you’ve done that.

  57. Very true, howard. I now embrace every bit of my nerdiness. Whenever someone gives me shit for being a nerd, I point out that without nerds, the world would still be in the Stone Age. Who else would invent cool stuff but the nerds?πŸ˜€

  58. How many decimals did you get to? And can you still remember them all? (My dad, who just turned 75, can still remember the poem he had to memorize in Grade 3.)

  59. I also was pretty right-wing when I was younger. Fortunately, I grew up a little, and gained compassion and (some) wisdom, and became less easily satisfied with the simple answers.

  60. Grr, I’m completely stalled. I’m stuck in the “bonding” part of the story where not that much happens but people get to know each other. It’s hard!

  61. I’m slowly working my way towards the ending. I decided that some of the other parts were getting boring, and that I would fix them later during the editing process. I just want to see how my whole story plays out. Sorry you’re having troubles, katz. *inspiration vibes*πŸ™‚

  62. I can remember the first ten or so still. In the same sing-song I used to memorize them. It’s… annoying.

    I wrote my ending last week. It helped me dump about 10,000 words a day for a while… the big climax will always help you do that.

    Now I have some painful reversals to work out.

  63. So I totally want to write a short story about the Cornish Owlman. Who thinks that would be fun?

  64. Oh, Kotaku. The site that wraps up misogyny, racism, and utter contempt for anyone outside the treehouse up into one obnoxious package, and then insists on trying to deliver it to all the other Gawker sites any time anyone mentions sex or games, despite repeated attempts by all the other sites to return said package as undeliverable.

  65. *cough* sorry there

    I’m almost done! 45k (of the novel’s 2nd half)!πŸ˜€

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