Head-clearing Weekend

Sometimes I just can’t bring myself to look at MRA bullshit. I’ll be back tomorrow. In the meantime, kittens.

About David Futrelle

I run the blog We Hunted the Mammoth, which tracks (and mocks) online misogyny. My writing has appeared in a wide variety of places, including Salon, Time.com, the Washington Post, the New York Times Book Review and Money magazine. I like cats.

Posted on January 20, 2013, in kitties, off topic. Bookmark the permalink. 134 Comments.

  1. @Unimaginative:

    Me and my relationship with cheesecake are tragic for exactly that reason.

    I❤ this and I❤ you. Cheesecake, why must you be so delicious and yet make me so ill??

  2. @Kitteh’s

    My boyfriend has a fedora. It’s XXL. His head’s too big. I said it’s because of all his brains, and he said that made me sound like a zombie.

  3. So I have a question about the next AVfP. It’s the Government Girlfriends guy calling the police on his parents, and I was thinking I’d draw him hiding in a closet with the phone. But I was concerned that this might be disturbing to people who have actually felt threatened by their parents. Does anyone think this might be a problem? How concerned should I be about that sort of thing, given that the text is always going to be creepy and “out there” anyway?

  4. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    Perhaps have him sitting on the couch in an obviously not under threat situation? Like, one of his parents can be seen cooking or sitting reading through a doorway?

  5. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    Or maybe the parents are sitting playing a boardgame or something, in sight but out of earshot?

  6. Could you do a split panel? Him hiding in the closet in the main part, parents sitting around wondering where he went and if he’ll be back for dinner in the smaller part.

  7. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    Lumme. I just read the most bizarre old thread – some bloke called Samuel going on and on about how men are all lustful beasts, saying men and women can’t be friends because of this, saying all the women on this site who disagreed were lying so as not to upset feminist men – and at the same time he was doing a massive all-caps dummy spit about how nasty feminist women were saying these things to him.

    Oh and he thought not ejaculating gave celibate men’s eyes a wonderful glow of manly man energy.

    It was … interesting.

  8. Oh and he thought not ejaculating gave celibate men’s eyes a wonderful glow of manly man energy.

    It’s tantra for angry misogynists!

  9. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help


    He was dead keen on conflating Buddhism and Hinduism and the whole lot, too.

    The guy was equally frustrating and pitiable. It took a bit of work to read his stuff – he claimed to be a native English speaker and to have done college, but his posts just didn’t read that way at all. It wasn’t like dyslexia, either. He seemed to be terrified of being near any woman he found attractive in case he got an erection; it was like attraction = instant arousal = rape (and he didn’t seem to grasp that anything outside a Deep Spiritual Marriage could be happy sexytimes).

    Oh, and he thought Slavey was an academic and deep thinker.😛

    Magpie had a great answer to his “marriage is a deep spiritual connection” line – marriage is when two people have a conversation while one of them’s on the toilet. Not that spiritual.

  10. @Kittehs Unpaid Help

    It would be a spiritual connection of the couple were worshippers of the Demon Lord of Sloth, Belphegor. Apparently you must glorify him whilst seated upon the commode.

  11. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    Wouldn’t Demon Lord of Sloth, Belphegor be Basement Cat’s true hidden cat name? Because I’d swear a lord of sloth is who my two worship. Or would if they could be arsed to get up and do anything.

  12. Most of the kitties I know hang around looking like adorable avatars of Bastet…

  13. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    Ah, but the adorablosity is just a cunning disguise …

  14. I cracked up when he was wearing a fedora because I’ve always hated them. I never saw them as a hipster thing and always associated them with “nice guys,” and sexist shit heads. So when he was wearing one on the show I was like, “HE WOULD WEAR A FEDORA!”

    Sorry to those of you who like them but I think the hat has become the official symbol of the friend-zoned.

  15. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    Meh, to me it’s a hat with only a few associations – probably the first I saw was on Indiana Jones; I also love the hats Foyle and Milner wear in Foyle’s War, and the most important association is that Louis wears it. So in this as in all other areas, MRAs and associated losers can go stuff themselves …

    Meanwhile, tonight’s picture effort has been not so much head-clearing as warming the cockles of the heart for memories of a winter day at Home last night.🙂

  16. thenatfantastic

    Kittehs! Did you see the picture of the present that Boy got me which I was excited about last week? It’s on the previous page.

  17. Home from Arisia. It was an adventure. I started with a trip to the ER for some minor surgery (I managed to get a small piece of glass embedded in my foot. They had to cut it out. The anesthetic hurt more than the glass, or the aftermath. The tetanus shot was the most debilitating aspect of that).

    Grabbed four hours of sleep, hopped the PATH to 33rd, walked to Penn Stn.

    Took the Acela to Boston, worked my ass off (I was doing some logistical support, to the catering of three parts [staff, guests, attendees] of a four day convention/party for 3,000 people). I put in 32 hours of “billable” hours between 1300 Thus, and 0001 Monday.

    Saw Cliff Pervocracy, Steve Barnes and some other friends. Ate not enough, slept not enough, drank not enough. Was reminded I need to get to Boston more often.

    Did about 1/3rd the drive home. Slept.

    Got coffee/croissant, and eggs to make breakfast when my partner rises from her well deserved rest.

    Catching up on Manboobz now.

  18. Ugh, just realized there’s another major roadblock with my next strip: The guy in it is Robert P., the one who we know for sure is using someone else’s name in a defamatory manner. So what on earth am I supposed to call him?

  19. Katz: didn’t he return here as Stam not too long ago?

  20. Isn’t his blog called GovernmentGirlfriends or some shit like that? You could always just go with the joke that he’s so identified with that idea that he’s taken it as his legal name.

  21. Wow… I read some of that Did you know that saying things is different from doing them?

    And no one should ever protest something someone says?

    I am sure he shares this view about the SCUM Manifesto.

    Then I looked at the clip.

    And he’s a deer in the headlights when he gets called out.

    Robin… is “tastefully dressed”, Laci Green he has goggle-eyes and stammers. When Trisha puts him on the spot he changes his tune.

    Then he waffles, and says she looks like a slut, ergo…

    “Most men don’t care what women wear,” Even though he’s campaigning for men to “slut shame,” and he tries to push it off onto women.

    “the slutwalk is a walk by a bunch of sluts… nothing but public whining sessions.”

    And his moralising about how women who “wear meat in front of animals in the jungle” is what (apart from ridiculous, and not relevant to women in bars, unless men are slavering beasts, which he says they aren’t… even going so far as to say “most men would intervene to stop a rape,”. which makes me wonder what he thinks rape is, and why [if men are willing to intervene to stop it], women need to worry about how they look)

    The last woman to join that segment…. “I’m not concerned with the term… but I know there are consequences that will follow you, as a woman.” Unh-hunh… and that is… People will shame you, and call you a slut. Her solution is to say, “do what they tell you to do, so they won’t degrade you later”.

    That’s appeasment, and it’s not a good tactic to try and gain independence.

  22. Katz: I dunno. Emma the Emo just replied to me calling him out on “gov’t gets girlfriends. I gave her all the attention a reply to a several week old comment to him deserves… noted that she’d made it, and failed to read it.

  23. Starla: That being said, I think slut-shaming could be cut back quite a bit if girls were educated more about the Internet.

    What does this mean?

    If they just kept themselves in, “safe spaces” and understood they just have to accept some abuse if someone doesn’t like the way they look?

    Because the only, “safe spaces” are going end up being a sort of purdah, and even there, there will be women like the last one to show up in the segment; reserving the right to tell people that they ought to be ashamed of not looking right.

  24. Oh my God…. Samuel. I’d forgotten him. He got really creepy.

  25. Was he the one who was fixated on Kristin (?) because her icon was a tiny photo of her face?

  26. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    Cassandra – not in the thread I was reading, but he could have done elsewhere.

    thenat – YES! I saw Boyfantastic’s present and it was the best!

  27. @ Kittehs

    There was this one troll who posted some really creepy comments about how he would be unable to be around one of our old regulars because you see, she was just so pretty. I know it sounds relatively harmless but actually it was really creepy.

  28. Re: Samuel … Not sure if want. On the one hand, train wreck. On the other hand, squick.

    Probably better not, but I fear that in some cases I do not properly use risk assessment in my decision making.

  29. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    Resist, Falconer, resist! I have a fairly high squick level with old threads here but this guy was bizarre.

    Cassandra – no, that doesn’t sound harmless, it sounds totally creepy.

  30. Did he sock when he got banned? Or was it that he was modded, and came back even creepier?

  31. Before decided to post here I lurked on this blog a while…………….And I couldn’t help but notice that the troll that you people are the most fond of, or at least tolerate, are the stupid ones whose weaknesses are obvious and whose logic is easily reduced to shambles. The more intelligent trolls get banned when butthurt regs e-mail Mr manboobz himself and request they be denied posting privileges because they make people rale mad. tsk! tsk!

  32. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    Except “intelligent troll” is an oxymoron, as you’re busy demonstrating.

    BTW an ellipsis is three dots (or in some usages four, depending on placement), not a dozen-odd. It’s a discrete punctuation mark, not a “fill in as many dots as you want to indicate length of pause” thing.

  33. Hey, don’t punish the nice man with your misandric grammar.

  34. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    ::evil misandric laughter::

    He’s lucky I’m not the Grammar Centurion.

  35. I feel like Grammar Centurion should be a meme.

  36. Argenti Aertheri

    Re: ellipses: 3 in a sentence (or is it paragraph?) and 4 between them?

    Welcome back Pecunium!

  37. I feel like whenever a feminist comments on an MRA blog it’s the grammar equivalent of the scene where The Bride slaughters all 88 of the guys attacking her in Kill Bill.

  38. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    Complete with picture of John Cleese, of course.

    Oh and look what else there is …

  39. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    Argenti – I think that’s the US way, yes – three in mid-sentence and four (three plus period) ending a sentence. I’m not sure if the fourth is used in UK/Aus etc English; anyone else know?

  40. I wonder which returning dipshit Demarq is. He stinks of old socks.

  41. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    I’m thinking Mr Al. He’s gone a bit Steelo with his “tsk tsk” stuff.

  42. The tell is “tsk tsk”. Not many trolls use it, and hmm, who would be upset right now about the regulars telling him to fuck off/emailing David about him?

  43. And who would proclaim that smart, eloquent, logically irrefutable people get banned?

  44. Oooh guys, I think I’ve figured out why all MRAs suck so much at the grammar! It’s because their rotten feminist primary school teachers ™ were so busy doing “make-work” (see other thread) that they couldn’t be bothered to teach them the basics of how English work! But they only screwed over the boys! Because misandry!

  45. Abnoy would. But… demarcq is actually more boring.

    And that is a sad thing.

  46. Argenti Aertheri

    “And who would proclaim that smart, eloquent, logically irrefutable people get banned?”


  47. I just generally meant “someone who got banned.” So all of the above.

  48. My vote’s with Abnoy, or possibly Diogenes. Though it would be hilarious if all of our trolls who share the same fixations turned out to be the same person.

  49. The more intelligent trolls get banned

    Which trolls would that be?

    Our, ban list is pretty short.

    Eoghan (for sockpuppetry), the long runners were Brandon, Al (in both his major incarnations). Samuel (creepy). Toy Soldier (lying) Pell (and I defy you to say it’s because he was logically superior). Marc (rape advocacy). Tom Martin (rape advocacy), Stam/Gov’t Girlfriends (sockpuppetry).

    But please tell us who was banned, while kicking logical ass.

  50. Pell? Was he the intelligent one? HA HA HA HA HA HA… [splutters into huge coughing fit because I’m still sick] Please don’t make me laugh that hard again tonight, my lungs can’t take it yet.

  51. Oh, ninja’d. Ninja’d so hard.

  52. @Pecunium did you happen to catch a glimpse of the Tardis ballgown this weekend? Probably my favorite hall costume of the con.

  53. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    Tardis ballgown? Wow!

  54. I’m not so great at embedding photos, but here’s a link: https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/398122_10151398060590295_1032352273_n.jpg

  55. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    I just found out the other day we can’t embed pics here anyway, so no prob. And that dress is WAY cool. D’you know if ze made it?

  56. thenatfantastic



    I was excited enough about the sonic screwdriver pen I got with the Doctor Who magazine this week.

  57. Abnoy says “tsk, tsk” and also abuses semicolons.

  58. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    ::hands nat a paper bag to breathe from::

    Hmm, better keep another bag on hand for when Argenti sees that dress!😛

  59. Kitteh’s. She remade a prom-dress into it. It was gorgeous.

    I also made a joke about one of the winners (we were watching on Arisia TV). “Can’t sleep, clowns will bring me presents.”

    When I bumped into him (out of costume), praised the dressing gown he was in; and then saw the awards, I asked what he’d done, he told me, I told him the comment, and he said, “Oh, that was you!”. So he’d heard it, and was amused.

    I worked my ass off. I might be speaking at Fog Con in Walnut Creek in March, for those who are in the bay area.

  60. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    Way to give a prom dress a new and improved life!

  61. That dress is amazing.

  62. Argenti Aertheri

    That dress! The inside of the TARDIS looks to be hand painted too, the dress itself I might be able to pull off, but that? Not a chance!

    Holy shit that’s amazing! *takes kitteh’s spare paper bag*

  63. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    Did you look at the blown-up pic? I love her POLICE BOX choker and key pendant! And yes, the painting on that dress … holy shit!

  64. She took best workmanship, and best comic presentation, in the journeyman class (I think that was the class). The Arisia website has the entire listing, and you can see the other costumes.

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