Spearheader: Put single moms in whorehouses so they can “pay their debts to society.”

Evil single mom neglecting her kids

Evil single mom neglecting her kids

I haven’t been keeping up with The Spearhead of late, but a commenter here drew my attention to the sort of timeless wisdom I’ve been missing from the Spearhead gang.

In this comment, DW3 offered his thoughts on how to combat the evils of single motherhood. The solution involves putting single moms in workhouses. To be more specific, in sex-workhouses — that is, whorehouses.

I think there should be whorehouses for single mothers to work at, to pay their debts to society. Such a system would kill several birds with one stone.

There would be safe and legal access to prostitution, presumably reducing the drugs and violence associated with the way the trade is currently practiced.

It would allow single mothers to learn the value of getting up and getting to work on time, so that they might aspire to a different career.

It would assist traditional families in steering their daughters and nieces and sisters in a different direction, with a very visible and well-known consequence to ignoring the families’ advice.

It would allow single mothers to give back for all the resources they consume, and ideally it could replace child support on some sort of sliding scale of pay for the workers. Perhaps starting at $50 paid per client, less $20 per child more than 1. That way, a single mother with 3 kids could still get $10, and more than that would be inclined to try to hide off the grid the way divorced and separated fathers now have to.

I have my own opinions about whether choice single mothers cause more harm than divorcees, but for this proposal I suppose that they should be treated differently. Divorced women would surrender their children to the father and have to pay half their whorehouse earnings to support the family, however they would get the full $50 regardless of the number of kids.

Perhaps the whorehouses could charge $80 for providing their services, with a modest 20% discount for married men who proved they had a family to support.

DW3 prefaced this comment with a line in which he notes that this idea might be a bit much even for the regular denizens of The Spearhead. But no one actually took issue with his proposals. Indeed, Lyn87 (a Spearhead regular I’ve written about before) noted that he’d had similar thoughts on the matter himself.

Since men are responsible to pay for the children that women they have sex with choose to bear (that is the stark legal reality – every child that is born is born due to the SOLE choice of the mother), then it stands to reason that:

Money paid to support a child = the obligation a man incurs by having sex with the mother.

Since having sex is enough to legally entitle a woman to a man’s money if a pregnancy ensues and she elects to give birth, shouldn’t taking a man’s money legally entitle him to have sex with the mother if he has not already done so?

Fair is fair, right?

My Modest Proposal: a single-mother-by-choice who takes public assistance should be required by law (as men’s financial obligations are), to have sex with any man who can produce a 1040 showing that he paid taxes in the past 12 months (at least once for each child).

The Spearhead: As reliably awful as stomach flu.


About David Futrelle

I run the blog We Hunted the Mammoth, which tracks (and mocks) online misogyny. My writing has appeared in a wide variety of places, including Salon, Time.com, the Washington Post, the New York Times Book Review and Money magazine. I like cats.

Posted on January 23, 2013, in a woman is always to blame, creepy, evil single moms, evil women, lazy women eating bon bons, men who should not ever be with women ever, misogyny, MRA, only men pay taxes apparently, rape, the spearhead, whores and tagged , , . Bookmark the permalink. 324 Comments.

  1. *Damn it, Falconer (and damn you, typos!)

  2. I can’t believe no one has posted this yet…

    Cthulhu for president! http://www.cthulhu.org/cthulhu/index.html

    Thank you, I didn’t make the pic, I just found it somewhere a long time ago🙂 someday I’ll have to post pics of my real kitties, I’m sure you’d love them =^.^=

  3. I got nothing Cthulhu related, but I do have an Anatomy/Physiology test in an hour, so I could totally use a zinger… *looks meaningfully at whoever’s got the booze*

  4. All’s I got is this slice of lemon and large gold brick.

  5. OK, Falconer, I am officially fangirling you

  6. Titian: Fascinating article!

  7. Does anyone remember that one former Twitter handle called DrunkLovecraft? It’s unfortunately defunct now, but it was really funny. The story was that Lovecraft got re-animated and still thinks like he did in the past, but became addicted to alcohol. The entire Twitter was basically short drunken rants written in Lovecraft’s style. Some quotes include:

    The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the ability of the human mind to obliterate all its contents with sweet, sweet gin.

    When confronted by the fungi from Yuggoth, try and lick one. They’ll still take your brain, but you’ll be high as a motherfucker.

    If you think God moves in mysterious ways, you’ve never seen Yog-Sothoth take the dance floor.

    And probably my favorite:

    Today a cocker spaniel humped my leg, and I immediately thought of August Derleth.

  8. Serjeant Grumbles

    Dude, you said that there was no point in having sex if it wasn’t perfect. What are you expecting?

    Not that it’s relevant to this thread, but I concede that I chose my words poorly in that case.

  9. Aww, that cat is very fluffy.

  10. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    @ Sgt Gormless, you went on at length, it wasn’t one badly phrased sentence. Besides, you’ve never made any substantive or friendly or funny comments here, they’re always off.

    @titianblue, thanks for that link, the article was fascinating! (memo to self, check height of stepson’s heels, he still manages to look taller’n me and I’m 5′ 4″ …)

    That shoe at the top gives a whole new meaning to a “fuck me!” shoe, ’cause that’s what I said when I saw that humungous heel.

    @doomkitt3n, yes, I’ve seen that tea party kitteh before.🙂 And yes, I’d love to see pics of your kitties!

  11. Serjeant Grumbles

    Well there’s your problem, trying saying something substantial and maybe someone will bother actually addressing it; until such time as that occurs, we’ll continue to “throw around mindless ‘zingers’”.

    I thought I was saying something substantial, but I guess I wasn’t communicating it properly. Kristine said that no man goes to a prostitute for the sex, which is not only a blanket generalization, but she’s also presuming to know the intentions of men better than men themselves, basically womansplaining. I guess if it were sex a man wanted, he’d just go up to someone at a bar and ask her out; only a raging misogynist would have any problem doing just that.

  12. @kitteh If your stepson’s heels aren’t red, I shall be deeply disappointed.

  13. Grumbles, dude, why are you here? Nobody seems to like you very much, you’re not on the same wavelength as any of the other commenters, neither you nor they enjoy the conversations that you have. So what’s the point of it all?

  14. they completely ignore the fact that our species tends to mate in pairs.

    I suspect their entire view of women is something like this.

    *makes burnt offering to the embed gods that this works*

  15. *shakes fist at embed gods*

  16. Funny anglerfish vid🙂

  17. Only thing is, Grumbles, her statement? Read an awful lot like there was something there.

    I mean, sure, to make it an absolute is a little weird. But if what you’re seeking is just an orgasm, your right hand is there for you. And if what you’re seeking is intimacy, there’s tons of ways to look for that. There is a bit of sex-work-negativity in there, but the idea that a man who seeks to control women would get off a little on the ‘owning’ involved in sex work is hardly controversial.

    But you don’t want to deal with that. And you can’t just say something the way a person arguing in good faith would, like ‘I can see that in this case, but I think it’s a little sex-work-negative to say men ONLY seek prostitutes for control.’

    As is the time every time you comment, you pounced. Because that’s modus operandi. I can’t think of a single thread where you haven’t struck as if you were convinced you had found weakness and needed to chase it down.

    It is that combativeness that tells us your nature. And to respond to you at length and with substance is just to invite a quick ‘overanalyze much’ from you as you flit onward.

    But you don’t fool us.

  18. “as is the time every time…” As is the case, dammit!

  19. “womansplaining”

    Also, this is not a thing.

  20. In all seriousness, is it because you just can’t stand the thought that there’s one place on the internet where people don’t agree with you? Because if so, that’s just sad.

    (Also confused. There are lots of places where people don’t agree with you. I guess most of them would have banned you for being tedious by now, though.)

  21. Argenti Aertheri

    Yeah I thought tedious was grounds for banning, but I guess our trolls get pretty tedious by default and thus have to be extra tedious to be remarkable.

    That sentence, it fails, sorry (twitter and #OpThunderbird have my attention currently)

  22. Demarcq: You made an absolute claim. I refuted it. You tried to change the subuject; you then tried to change your argument.

    So… Your argument is now, “small countries at risk of war/possessed of hostile neighbors need conscription”.

    See my first rebuttal, re Pakistan.

    Your knowledge in this area is deficient. So are your attempts at argument.

  23. One must remember the great sheep of the elder gods, Cthulewe

  24. Argenti Aertheri

    More Cthulhu puns! Excellent!

    Demarcq was om nom / Mister No Name and is thus banned, again. So you’re never going to get that debate (not that he would’ve been capable of it if still around)

  25. I wondered how long until he was outed. I was also pretty sure it was someone who has been banned. Funny, all in all, that it was one of the ones I forgot about.

  26. Argenti Aertheri

    You too huh? He really is quite forgettable, kind of ironic given his original nym.

  27. Hey fuckwit, Australia is a small country population-wise and our defence forces are voluntary. Works perfectly well, I might add.

    I also found out that Australia has changed policy to allow women in (some) combat roles, and within a few years there will be no difference between what men and women are allowed to do in the defence forces. Unrelated, but it’s been fine to be gay and in the army for a while now. I went to an officers’ mess with a friend of mine, and one of his fellow officers was a lesbian, and she had her gf there with her too.

  28. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    Cthulewe, anyone?

  29. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    @titianblue – LOL oh yes, the heels are red, at least when he’s dressed up. That was a pic of him in his old age in the article you linked to.🙂

    Actually I’m wondering now if that’s 5′ 4″ in current inches or in a different French measurement – I’ve seen it mentioned that the whole Napoleon-was-really-short trope comes from French inches being longer than English ones. The Bourbon men are sort of short to middling for the time. My FiL is shorter than my MiL and Mr K’s shorter than his first wife (he’s 5’7″, plus-don’t-forget-half-inch-heels-kthnx).

  30. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    Kiwi girl – I iz ded of gorgeousness

    and dusty rose is SO my favourite pink

  31. One must remember the great sheep of the elder gods, Cthulewe

    That’s all right, I wasn’t using that point of SAN anyway.

  32. “While virtually all feminists I know oppose the draft, most agree that as long as registration is going to be required, it should be required for both men and women.”

    Why? That is ridiculous. It is like arguing that men should get paid less to even out the wage gap instead of arguing women should get paid more.

    It is like arguing we shouldn’t be trying to make female victims of domestic violence safe we should just try to make male victims less safe.

    It is like arguing instead of getting rid of apartheid in South Africa they should have just held white people to the same repressive standards and sent them off to live in the ghettos as well.

    This is MRA logic101. If a man is suffering, a woman must suffer too!

    The whole everyone should be fucked over because some people are fucked over argument is bunk.

    The government pulls it out when they want to take away more rights though. What they do is they first introduce laws into aboriginal communities using racism. Then a few years later they say “oh this is a racist policy, we must apply it to white people as well!”

  33. Cassie, the draft doesn’t fuck over anyone because it is not active.

  34. Katz, the argument is indeed that the draft fucks men over so women should have to be fucked over equally. If it doesn’t fuck anyone over then why talk about it at all?

  35. However I seem to have accidently stuck that comment on the wrong spot, so I shall shift it over to the correct one!

  36. As this thread originated with TheSpearhead, it would seem to be the correct place to post my latest sputtering rant on the wilful stupidity of its ringleader. The latest: he’s even wrong about his own ethnicity. He talks about the Norwegians preferring Seattle over the midwest because it reminded them of fjords. Fact: the Scandinavian migration was mostly east->west and there are still plenty of Norwegians in the midwest. Hasn’t he even heard of Lake Wobegone Days? And it wasn’t a matter of preferring Seattle, it was that midwestern land, especially northern midwestern land, was oversold during a rare wet period of history. Then, the more normal dry conditions returned and many farms failed, people just moved on. (happened in my family too) I’m sure that Seattle is more fjord-like than Havre, but it’s not like the Norwegians made a beeline for Seattle. He talks about a great grandmother who made a killing in real estate, as if that proves that patriarchy was no big deal. The fact that she was allowed to earn and handle her own money and buy real estate seems to pass unoticed by him – it was not the law or custom throughout America back in the earlier days.

  37. RE: Cassie (though I know you’re gone)

    I actually WANT to be on the damn SS list, but can’t because I’m trans. (And would never be accepted, due to health issues, but regardless.)

    Is it truly so hard to believe that I’d rather be in the trenches with the rest of humanity? If my brother has to go, if my father has to go, it’s just not fair that I don’t. And being FORBIDDEN to sign up honks me off.

  38. The Cassie Show was hilarious.

    Feminists – If only men are required to register that’s sexist, we should fix that.

    Cassie – OMG how can you say that! By the way, patriarchy is not real. I don’t care about identity politics but I want to make it very clear that feminism in particular is Not OK.

  39. I’m sure that Seattle is more fjord-like than Havre, but it’s not like the Norwegians made a beeline for Seattle.

    Were they pining for the fjords?

  40. Also: “I’m a socialist and you’re a feminist so we’ll never agree because no one can be two things.”

  41. Put me in a whorehouse and you’ll wake up in the morgue.

  42. MRAs’ rants against single-mothers without euphemism:

    Women should know that they are walking vaginas & wombs, which serve no other purposes than lodging teh menz’ penises & teh menz’ children (yes, you read it correctly), and for whose sustenance teh menz had patronizingly doled out a mere pittance for.


    To mine ears, a single man, this sounds like coming from a sexist arsehole who disgust his female partner so much that she left; & whom she must reasonably shielded their children from. The arsehole never thinks that it IS HIS ARSEHOLERY which discredits him from raising their children, not the fact that he fathers the children, whose need must be provided by both parents.

    Moreover, capitalists need unemployed people, including some single mothers, as a reserve army of laborers, whom they must provide for with “welfare” left the unemployed die & capitalists cannot recruit them in case of strikes (even though capitalists cause unemployment by refusing to hire those people in the 1st place).

    Moreover, many single mothers work hard and are NOT on “welfare”.


    I dare MRAs “put me in a whorehouse and [they]’ll end up [dead] in the morgue.”

    From a Middle-Class, Straight, Cisgendered, Able-Bodied, Male with the Wrong Skin Color & without any Religious Belief (or a Wrong Religious Belief, according to some dumb-fucks).

  43. O, I forgot, what about REAL, CONCRETE Single Mothers whose REAL, CONCRETE Husbands had died, or rather killed by society?

    I mean, those REAL, FLESH&BLOOD,husbands & fathers who had been overworked to death by diseases, accidents, etc.?

    Those husbands & fathers who were maimed & killed in war to serve war-profiteers’ interests?

    Those husbands & fathers who were driven to crimes out of desperation when they are first told to be their ‘family’s breadwinner’, then thrown away by corporations when they’re no longer needed? How should they assert themselves again when all their ‘breadwinner’ identity has been built up by corporations, but also shattered by corporations?

    A Society (read: corporations) which kills CONCRETE Husbands & Fathers now bad-mouths ABSTRACT Single Wives & Mothers? As if every single-mother is a wife of a middle-class sexist MRA arsehole.

    Such a mentality is utterly Classist & Sexist (if not Racist since what skin color of single mothers shown to you by corporate media).

    MRAs who blame single-mothers are merely corporate shills & useful idiots. They masturbate themselves to some mere crumbs of male & middle-class privileges dole out to them by corporations, & then feel. It never appears to them that those privileges keep every one down.

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