BREAKING: Creator of science-related web page reportedly a woman
Women have allegedly been involved in science for some time now.
So here’s an interesting story: The creator of the popular I Fucking Love Science Facebook page recently got a Twitter account.
Oh, I know that doesn’t sound all that interesting, but here’s the thing: When she got the Twitter account, she revealed to her Facebook fans that she was, in fact, a she.
This apparently shocked and confused a large portion of her readership. A … Woman? But … but … SCIENCE?! But there she was, with a woman’s name — Elise Andrew — and a woman’s face and everything.
Over on Hello Giggles, Julia Gazdag — also rumored to be a woman — reports on the reaction to Elise Andrew’s Big Reveal. Some chick at Reuters also did a piece on it.
(Thanks, Elizabeth, for pointing me to this story.)
Posted on March 26, 2013, in are these guys 12 years old?, female beep boop, misogyny and tagged misogyny, women in science. Bookmark the permalink. 257 Comments.
Kitteh’s: If I had posted that here, I would’ve been aiming it at the trolls. However, sadly, that was a colossal C&P fail on my part. I meant to leave THIS here:
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/482094_569044833129117_933208923_n.jpg
which, I think you’ll agree, is far less ambiguous and considerably more awesome, to boot.
Since I screwed up, though, here’s a bonus:
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/388395_577397512278147_1105373819_n.jpg
@freemage I was so paranoid. Sorry if I was a little clippy, if you noticed. Princess Bride cats are surely the most awesome brain bleach. My apologies.
“Piiiiiiiiiiies.”
The cry of the Zombie Pastry Chef …
I’m not sure who’s grinning more right now, him or me. Not just ‘cos pies, but generally.
freemage, kittiieeeeeeeeeeeees! The first one looks like Miss Rochelle (our latest kitty over There) with mega fluff.
“Inigo Meowntoya” ::dies::
Cannonball: No harm done.
Kittehs’: Oooh… Lucky you having that one, then. So very gorgeous.
Well zombie pastry chef would mean a flaky crust. I just grossed myself out if that’s any consolation.
@freemage Glad to hear it.
“Well zombie pastry chef would mean a flaky crust. I just grossed myself out if that’s any consolation.”
BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I’m glad I had pies for tea last night, here. (Chicken and leek with boiled spuds and greens, yum.)
freemage - Miss Rochelle’s those colours, but with short, dense fur. She’s in the earlier link I posted on the last page (or at least, it’s a kitty who looks enough like her to use - since she never lived with me on this plane, I have no photos of her).
Say, is the kitty in the pic you posted a Turkish Van? Just occurred to me they’re similar.
@Kittehs’ I may attempt to post a pic of my Louis. She doesn’t have near so many natty jumpers though!
hellkell is clearly engaging in hyperpeppergamy. (Okay, I know that comment was like hours ago, but I’ve been off of the internet. And I am feeling goofy.)
Cannonball, that sucks about your partner. Grrr. I am growling on all the threads!
Hey, Kittehs’ did I tell you I work with maps? One of the coolest I’ve seen recently was a WWII era map printed on parachute fabric so that pilots who were shot down would have a map that didn’t disintegrate in water. I love maps. It is thanks to maps that I discovered there is a body of water in California named Desperation Slough.
@cloudiah Thanks for the grrrs, many of them, all of them. It’s still an uphill battle.
body of water in California named Desperation Slough.
How is that not a PUA’s name yet??
Wouldn’t it be a incels dream?
This comment happened a ways back but
@leftwingfox- The thing about kink is that, while I don’t argue with you that it’s influenced by a culture of non-consensual violence, the kink community (when it’s doing its job, and it’s not always doing its job) has a lot to teach the rest of the sexually active world about boundaries, explicit consent, and the idea that consent can be withdrawn.
I’m also not sure that human sexuality can ever be un-coupled from generally weird shit. I think the FORMS the weird shit take are influenced by the surrounding culture, but I think kink (in one form or another) will probably always be a thing.
“…but I think kink (in one form or another) will probably always be a thing.”
Well it had damned well better be! *says a sleepy masochist*
Kitteh, Cannonball — you guys made me squee. In “things I know I’ll regret asking”, what do Fruedians say about people who like cats? (What about fish?! *goes to check on sick cory* — with luck I’m about to be returning a cory to the big tank)
Btw, that bill about trans* people and bathrooms? It passed the House panel, hopefully the full House will go “oh hell no”.
Ohhhh…disappointment! I had my rant all queued up.
Then a conversation occured…
Yes. And I am bloody grumpy about that.
yes
It’s always both funny and depressing to me when I try to raise concerns about safety, work conditions, financial fairness, etc in relation to sex work and get shouted down as “well you must just hate sex you prude!”. Like, um, it’s called socialism, you should look it up.
Awww you guyz …
Argenti, I don’t know what Freud or Freudians say (if anything) about people who like cats or fish. I was Deep Cynicism About Freudians mode when I wrote that. The Freudian who Cannonball and I were particularly talking about was of the sort who can make anything - a child’s joke, a hobby, a friendship, a fondness for animals, a sense of ethics or morality - look self-centred, warped, controlling, or compensatory. She seemed to see everything as darkly in her way as MRAs do in theirs.
I tore her book up eventually.
My former professor, who believed that children resist toilet training to spite their parents by “stingily withholding the feces”. That dude did a fantastic job of making Freudian theory look ridiculous to many of his students.
Oh jeez, that’s exactly the sort of
shitidiocy Marvick had in her book.Seriously, what was it with Freud and feces?
Between that and the penis envy and wanting to fuck your mom stuff it’s almost like the dude had some issues or something.
(Where’s that sarcasm font when I need it?)
LOL! And the fern phobia. Don’t forget that.
It’s a real case of “physician, psychoanalyse yourself and stop projecting all that stuff onto everyone else, kthanx”.
Sometimes a houseplant is just a houseplant. I’m not even getting into some of his weird shit about horses.
Of course it’s totes unreasonable to think that a little kid would be scared of a very large animal with very big hooves and teeth! It must mean Something Else!
D’you think Freud was the original bonerwhiner? Not in the waaah-I-can’t-get-any MRA way, but he seems to have spent his life with his eyes at least metaphorically trained on his crotch.
“Well, I mean, I’m obsessed with genitalia, my mother, and ferns, so surely everyone else must be too. That makes sense, right?”
Definitely an early MRA!
@Kitteh, do you speak French? I am happy to offer translation services if you need any help with texts about Mr K.
My 3yr old daughter is resisting toilet training. She is not stingily withholding feces, let me tell you.
I know the odd word and phrase, but that’s about it! That’s a very kind offer, BigMomma, but you’d end up translating entire screeds if I took up that offer, and I don’t think you’d want to be doing that (and I wouldn’t dream of imposing it on you).
Actually it’s years since I read most of my books on hi and his times ::looks across at 2 1/2 shelves of bookcase:: - my perspective is so different now we’re together. I used to be focused on the only part of his life I could learn about, the earthly stage. But for the last six years (omg there’s another anniversary coming in a month) it’s been about what’s happening now and our changing relationship. The first tenth of his life is sort of background these days …
I bet if Freud had ever had to toilet train a child, he’d never have dreamt up that particular bit of stupidity.
In Freud’s defense, they probably weren’t many good psychologists around back then to help him deal with his own issues. ^^
I mean, he made mistakes (and lies, IIRC) but I think the biggest problem is his spiritual ‘descendants’ who just accepted what he said with no proof.
This is why I have a really hard time taking Jung - and, by extension, Joseph Campbell - seriously. I mean, Campbell’s work has other flaws, but the association with Freud and Jung doesn’t help his case, at least to me. I’m always surprised when I meet people who take any of them seriously.
Ha, at this point, I don;t think anyone’s disagreeing with each other, we’re just adding detail.
It’s the parenthetical point about kink communities “not always doing its job” that I was thinking about; especially the desire to protect the community at the cost of the victim, rather than dealing clearly with the aggressors is entirely consistent with the greater culture.
Ogod. That reminds me of an awesome english teacher I had. Whenever we discussed a book, he’d deal with the obvious surface imagery, then lead to more symbolic reading, then then eventually wind up at the most tenuous explanations made. For example, in a short story about a bunch of teens who destroy a house for no obviously apparent reason, he points out the destruction of the family album as being especially hurtful, and how one critic explained that the act of shitting in the book represented “leaving a family a gift.”
At this point he pulled a face.
“Well Jonny, what did you learn in school today?”
“Gee dad, I think I found out what to get you for Christmas.”
Lol, I kind of love that about literature; you can take anal*ysis to hilarious extremes.
*yuk yuk
Oh joy >:( bad govt bad.
So that’s what maps on silk were for! I’m looking at a picture of a 1940s blouse that’s made from a map of China printed on silk. I wonder how the maker got hold of the material?
PS Sir got his cartographer to teach him how to draw maps, back in the day. Came in very useful on campaign, he was able to draw local maps from memory.
I don’t know if all maps on silk were for that purpose, but at least some were, apparently.
I would love to take a cartography course some day.
The US Army in WW2 went through tons of maps, many made from photorecon flights, per day so I think it was only pilots and paratroopers who were issued with silk maps in “escape kits.”
WUT
cloudiah: a friend of mine in Seattle had a degree in cartography. She worked as a bartender.
Re maps on silk. They were more than just waterproof. They were durable. They could be hidden in the linings of jackets, crumpled into a pocket, didn’t wear out from being folded, were silent when being used.
They could be smuggled in as the cover of a Monopoly set (honest, this was a known thing… POWs were allowed games, and a set from the UK was made for including in packages, with a map printed on the underside of the layer the playing area was printed on).
Silk was used in the flyleaves of books to get messages/maps into Occupied Europe as well.
There is a nice history, “Between Silk and Cyanide” about the used book trade and espionage. 84 Charing Cross Road is just down the way from Picadilly Circus.
I visited a pencil factory once (my childhood was thrilling), where they made pencils that were only 1/3 full of graphite, and where the rest should be there were tiny little rolled up maps, and the top of the pencil was a miniature compass. They were give to pilots and paratroopers in WWII.
@ emilygoddess
That professor was quite a trip. You should have seen how he said it too - the people in the front row of the lecture hall visible drew back in a (possibly subconscious) attempt to escape the creepy.
@thenat: I imagine that a compass that size provided some … difficulties.
@Cassandra: I dunno about parents in general, but I don’t particularly *want* my babies’ feces. I mean, yeah, if they don’t poop I get worried (they’ve taken to doing it a couple three times a day, massively, rather than in every wet diaper) but I’m not sitting there going, come on, GIVE IT TO ME NOW
I guess I ought to say I don’t value the stool, rather than that I don’t want it.
I love I Fucking Love Science’s posts.
Apocaloptimist1 here. As far as dating and relationships go, prove me wrong you crazy bitches! hehe….
Just so the truth is out there…..Jessay got all confused and butt hurt about a post that she didn’t even understand. I’m as far from a sexist as can be but I do think that the messed up gender roles that our culture is leaning towards are no good for anyone and I think that it’s a subject worth discussing. I was just trying to have a conversation and bring up topics that most people are scared of and Jessay took a few things I said out of context, got all emotional about them, and after that, was unable to participate in any kind of intelligent conversation, ignoring my valid points and attacking me personally. If anything, her behavior proved the point that I was trying to make. That point was that since she was so affected by emotion that her time would probably be better spent being a mother or cooking than engaging in intellectual debate on the internet.
So, sexism sucks…….but people should own their roles, men and women.
“I’m not sexist, I just think some women are too emotional to discuss or debate things properly, and that those archaic roles for women just happen to be the right fit for those women. Nope, no sexism here.”
Related: if people react emotionally to something you said, it’s not because of some failure of rationality. It’s because you said something upsetting. Nice gaslighting, though.