A Voice for Men’s DriverSuz: “Male care and compassion for women is why women don’t live in barns and pens with the cows, pigs and chickens.”
So I’ve been skimming through the mass of comments that the Daily Beast piece on the Men’s Rightsers now has trailing in its wake. So far I think this is my favorite exchange.
Yep, that’s DriverSuz — aka Suzanne McCarley, “Senior Editor” of A Voice for Men.
And yep, that’s Angry Harry, the fellow that many MRAs call “the father of the men’s rights movement.”
Some critics of this blog complain whenever I quote some crackpot commenter rather than one of the “big names” in the Men’s Rights movement. Sometimes, it turns out, the crackpot commenters ARE the “big names” in the Men’s Rights movement.
Posted on October 21, 2013, in a voice for men, antifeminism, creepy, FemRAs, men who should not ever be with women ever, misogyny, MRA, patriarchy, patronizing as heck and tagged antifeminism, men's rights, misogyny, MRA. Bookmark the permalink. 289 Comments.
Just for a laugh, watch Karen Straughan’s video ..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljnvAS1_cxM&feature=c4-overview&list=UUcmnLu5cGUGeLy744WS-fsg
It’s The x rated hairy horror version of cartoon buffoonery .. I thanked her for the sheer comedy in her video, which caused me to laugh uncontrollably, but i did point out to her, me thanking her was not a compliment.. LMAO ..I nearly did .. haha
So our female predecessors who died from smallpox, malaria, tuberculosis, childbirth, old age, and other natural causes, would have lived if they’d had a man around to protect them? And no nun, unmarried woman or widow ever lived past infancy? And testicles can magically prevent death? Do tell.
The barnyard animal thing sounds like one of those sleazy NLP door-in-the-face techniques. Plant a horrific image in the mind of a woman, and - ta dah! - your obnoxious abuser personality suddenly looks acceptable by comparison. We’re supposed to be grateful that they treat us like crap instead of like shit.
Abusive douchebags. The cause of - and solution to - our problems!
Just remembered a short story from one of the”Dangerous Visions” collections, “In The Barn”. The protagonist visits a parallel Earth in which there are no ruminants, and humans have developed techniques for using other humans as livestock. It’s rather nasty, all in all, and I don’t think the author intended it any other way.
Thank you for the welcome pack kittehserf. I will admit I availed myself of it many months ago and have been enjoying cloudiah’s updates.
Oh heck, as I sometimes seem to spend half my life with my head up my arse you’d think a small shift in position wouldn’t be much of a reach for me! But I still can’t do it with the c-word. I could never, ever call my cave of wonders by that name
I know people don’t believe it, but I really truly don’t associate the word with female genitalia or ‘it’s female/a vagina therefore its bad’. It’s a word for appalling behavior. Always has been, always will be for me. But I rarely use it, and I’d never use it here.
OK. It seems the fight for my lovely word has already been lost - too many people only see it, as you’ve pointed out yourself, as something that “specifically tries to demean the man by invoking the image of women’s genitals.” Well, for a short and glorious time *perhaps* there was a part of the world where that divorce had been well and truly made and the word was it’s own insult in it’s own way. But like the idea of “a fair day’s work for a fair day’s pay” it couldn’t survive. Like I said, I’m just a sad old idealist…
I just checked and wow - it was by Piers Anthony. Color me surprised.
@Terrene, Yeah, sorry if I was mean earlier, it’s just that we get so many trolls. I really think the problem is with using it as an insult. It’s not the word per se.
You’re very welcome to hang out here with us, so don’t feel like one wrong step ruins everything. I once posted a terrible video, and everyone was very forgiving.
“Cave of wonders” now that I like!
Though I’m thinking of stalactites and stalagmites and hard hats now, so maybe not. Though I s’pose they’d put a different slant on crusty undies.
Cave of wonders makes me think Disney’s Alladin and the Genie.
@ Aphrodite
Not sure if you were being sarcastic or not, but either way. I cite Poe’s law
I was specifically not talking about 3rd world countries - I was talking about history in general and women inventors throughout the ages. Fact of the matter is that in the past, women contributed equally to the development of mankind. Only later did the patriarchal system come into place that hindered development because it stopped majority of women from doing specific kinds of work. (Also, “popping out children” has always been risky, even more so in the olden days. Plus they had to do all sorts of work besides being pregnant and caring for kids - simultaneously. Which was not the sole responsibility of the mother (or even just the mothers) for the majority of human history.) It’s also worth noting that men had the freedom they had because they were privileged over women and other groups, depending on time and place, since they didn’t “need” to partake in the more “mundane” activities - important as they were.
This, however, did not stop women from being awesome. There has always been great female thinkers, inventors and the common laborer is just as important. There are several technological advancements invented or developed further by women, several scientific discoveries, influential thinkers and mathematicians etc.
Once again, this is despite the fact that their lives have been negatively impacted by those who were in privileged positions.
If those forces were not enforced in the first place, humanity would have advanced at much faster pace.
And the same can be said about any class who have been put down by the more powerful classes. No doubt we have lost countless potential lives who would have changed the world if they were not enslaved in one form or another to serve the oppressors.