Career women: A crime against nature?

She's trouble!

Quiz: Which of the following is an example of female infidelity? (Check all that apply.)

a) A man and a woman are in a monogamous relationship; neither one sleeps with anyone else.

b) A man and a woman are in a monogamous relationship; the man sleeps with someone else.

c) A man and a woman are in a monogamous relationship; the woman sleeps with someone else.

d) A woman, who may or may not be in a monogamous relationship, works hard at a job she enjoys.

ANSWER: If you answered c, congratulations! You are correct. If you also answered d, you are probably PUA guru and freelance internet asshole “Roissy” or one of his douchey fans. In a recent post Roissy argues, quite sincerely, that women who take their careers seriously are committing a sort of psycho-social-sexual crime against men.

In the post, Roissy quotes a reader of his who’d suggested that “female career obsession [is] a form of infidelity to the family and marrage.” Roissy seconds this opinion and goes on to argue that:

Women who place their careers front and center are committing a kind of betrayal of their sex’s biological and psychological imperatives. It’s like a big middle finger to everything that distinguishes the feminine from the masculine, the yin from the yang.

Is it possible that these women are just, you know, really into their careers? That they’re good at what they do and enjoy doing it? That they want to make a difference in the world? That they might have a family to support? Or that, you know, they simply like making a lot of money?

Of course not. For Roissy, careers are little more than psychological crutches for women who are 1) trying to distract themselves from loneliness and/or sexual boredom:

It’s quite possible that the worst offenders — the 14 hour day lawyercunts and the graduate school hermits — embrace the male-oriented rat race and achievement spectacle because it offers a welcome distraction from either spinsterly loneliness or boring beta male partners who, while intellectually are rationalized as good matches, do not viscerally excite them.

Or, 2) imagining themselves as the heroines in some glamorous romance novel:

Maybe, too, these careerist chicks see their jobs as a way to enter the world of the alpha male, to have a taste of what it would be like to be part of his life. The office cubes and doormen and glassy skyscrapers have given legions of plain janes the daily stimulation to mentally masturbate fantasy romances with the alpha males who run their companies or the alpha salesmen who greet them at the front desk with a twinkle in their eyes.

Or, 3) trying to magically ward off the case of the uglies that apparently infects each and every woman when she hits the age of 40:

When a woman’s SMV [Sexual Market Value] inevitably craters in her 40s, her career might be all she has to lift her spirits, especially if she has no husband she loves, no kids, or even just one kid who spends most of his time playing CoD or robbing convenience stores.

Of course, in Roissy’s mind, these women aren’t quite women to begin with, even before they get hit with the 40th birthday ugly stick:

[T]here is something “off” about women who are excessively devoted to their careers and to obtaining an acronymic parade of pointless credentials. Careerist shrikes are some of the most unpleasant, unfeminine women to be around. They must have more androgen receptors than normal women to be so grating to the male sensibility. Sure, they can fuck like Viagra-laced male pornstars, but as soon as you relieve yourself in them you will feel a second powerful urge to escape their aggro nastiness.

Yeah, somehow I’m guessing that urge to flee is pretty strong in these women as well, as soon as they realize that they guy they’ve just had sex with is a pretentious narcissistic windbag who hates women.

Roissy continues, revealing far more about his own sexual insecurities than about any actual career women:

The women for whom career success is their comfort and their purpose are some sort of weird, monstrous amalgam of man and woman, halfway between both worlds, their sexual polarity askew. These types tend to attract either intense short term flings with alphas or plodding marriages with dweeby, effete kitchen bitches.

Roissy is vaguely aware that feminists – not to mention pretty much anyone who isn’t a complete douchebag misogynist – might have a few issues with his theories here.

The dumbfuck feminists will naturally ask, “Why doesn’t this same theory apply to men? Aren’t they escaping sad love lives by retreating to their careers?”

Don’t you know it’s different for guys? Unlike women, men are evolutionarily programmed to be resource providers for women. It is not a betrayal of a man’s innate purpose in life to ambitiously pursue achievement and accolades. In fact, just the opposite; it’s an affirmation of that ancient purpose.

Remember this, you ungrateful career ladies: WE HUNTED THE MAMMOTH TO FEED YOU!

Posted on June 24, 2011, in reactionary bullshit, misogyny, sex, douchebaggery, men who should not ever be with women ever, PUA, beta males, antifeminism, I'm totally being sarcastic, alpha males. Bookmark the permalink. 1,021 Comments.

  1. “So, in his ideal world, what are women who are not marriage material supposed to do, exactly?”

    Bow down to the AWS aka The Fact in humble servitude.

    We have a hard enough time as it is, not being able to date untouchable God AWS. He’s AWSome. Excuse me while I get wet in his AWSome presence.

    “This guy is what, not as cool as AWS?”

    Few can match the coolness of AWS. Many have died trying.

    What gets to me is that the anti-feminists get the fact that 1) claiming that all women are gold digging whores, and 2) condemning any woman who earns a good living is righteous.

    “Commit hari-kari, apparently. Since we can’t date AWS, I mean.”

    Or just be a cool anti-feminist female with natural boobs.

    What gets to me is that Ami and Kirbywarp get the hypocrisy of 1) claiming that all women aren’t golddigging whores, and 2) condemning any woman who doesn’t earn a good living.AWS sure showed them.

    This post is proof once again that kirby’s contempt for women is equaled only by his dim view of men.

    Feminsts must seem like some sort of hellish feminist dystopia to them. Obviously, we like it just fine.

    “This post is proof once again that AWS’s brilliance is equaled only by his amazingness and also women’s dim view of men.”

    True dat.

    “My marriage would be a lot better if I were married to AWS.”

    You are not worthy.

    ” A hell of a lot better. Man, that guy rocks.”

    More then you can fathom with your pea sized rotten feminist brain.

  2. “Any thoughts?”

    Start an AWSome thread but be prepared to be razzed and don’t cry like a feminist baby when I mock you personally David.

  3. @AWS:

    Err, hi, AWS. Kirbywarp here. Umm, don’t get me wrong, you’ve been doing great work so far, and I’m really proud to see a troll still kicking with absolutely zero sense of irony and all.. But I think you’re slipping a little. Half of your post doesn’t make sense as read, and you seem to be quoting another poster about women and say it reflects my attitude towards men… Perhaps you could slowly bring your posting back to reality? A little bit? I’m sure an awesome guy like you could manage to make hilarious posts that also are coherent. Ok? Thanks.

  4. “adding a plural after a singular article”

    I know I have a grammar checker slave (you) here to check my posts. Go back and read all my posts slave. I know the grammar errors get your goat. There is also another grammar error in that post so see if you can find it slave.

    “You’re right. I’ve never seen a troll (and sadist kitby) which AWS dealt with so beautifully.”

    Aw shucks.

  5. @AWS:

    Better, interesting that you’re calling people slaves now. You even got the grammar right in your second “quote.” Bravo, and carry on. XD

  6. “you came back to play”

    Want to see the thread reach 1,000 mostly and you clowns have been reduced to ashes. Feminism equals sadism. You dolts can’t have a serious discussion so I am using your language to mock you. I provided all the links needed to support my contention that feminism is sadism. I told you the keywords of psychopaths and criminals. Kirby is a non-factor here. He has little in the way of facts. He almost no research. He had a grand total of one valid post early on where he summarized my views. The rest has been pablum.

  7. ‘see if you can find it slave. ‘ -aws

    It’s amusing when the dancing monkey troll who keeps rising to the bait offered to it starts thinking he’s got a say in things. XD

    *Bangs on the bars a little more*

    Dance monkey, dance!

  8. “He almost no research.”

    He produces almost no research due to his poor reading comprehension level. So now I have to find my own errors? Where is my grammar slave? Slacker.

  9. You know it’s nice to have a free secretary to point out my grammar errors. Normally I have to pay someone (usually a pretty female) to check my grammar. So I have two slaves here. Kirby the sadist and Yaz the grammar lackey although Yaz has missed a few blatant grammar errors so I will have to dock his pay. Oh wait, Yaz the grammar slut works for free. .

  10. Is it embarrassing to have your poor level of reading comprehension pointed out? So much so that you need to lash out impotently? And the fact that you tried to mock someone and made yourself look even more uneducated? Or are you oblivious to it?

    Keep dancing, aws. I’m sure I’m not the only one who finds it hilarious.

    *tosses a cracker to the dancing monkey troll*

    Here’s some cymbals. You can make more noise that way.

  11. How about a thread called Q&A with AWSome David? I will mock all respondents except anti-feminists. each week you can ask me a question. I may or may not answer it. depends on how much time I have to school you feminist dweebs.

  12. “Feminism equal sadism.” You keep using that word. I no think it means what you think it means.

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/feminism
    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sadism

  13. “Is it embarrassing to have your high level of reading comprehension pointed out?”

    No, i am ok with that.

    “made yourself look even more educated”

    Grammar checkers are the assembly line workers at shoe plants. Not very bright.

    Fact is I have made you my slave. Your obsessively check my grammar because macro and social economic concepts escape you.

  14. Obsessively = once (in the world of an aws.)

    That’s the second time it has accused someone of being obsessive after they’ve done something once. It accused Kirby of obsessively using all caps after Kirby emphasized one word in one post. Now I’m obsessively correcting grammar after I pointed out how epically this dancing troll fails at language and mocking.

    ‘“Feminism equal sadism.” You keep using that word. I no think it means what you think it means.’ - darksidecat

    This particular troll has very poor language comprehension. As it demonstrated again and again.

  15. Sometime I make grammar errors on purpose to rile up my slaves.

    Did you catch the error yaz the grammar slave? It’s supposed to be “sometimes” I make grammar errors on purpose to rile up my slaves.

  16. He’s rly flailing isn’t he xD Desperately trying to recover indeed xD

    It also amuses me how he’s trying to be like me now XD except in his case the world doesn’t actually revolve around him XDDD

    But then, I guess you gotta try, if you want to be half as awesome as teh Ami xD

    He’s just upset by how bad Kirby made him look here XD and he’s desperately, fruitlessly scrambling to regain some semblance of dignity XD

    I predict a hilarious “NO YOU ARE!” and “EVERYBODY PAY ATTN TO ME!” swing at teh Rodeo Cat XDDDD

  17. “Now I’m obsessively correcting grammar”

    Good to read you admit your obsessive/compulsive disorder feminist grammar slave.

  18. ““NO YOU ARE!” and “EVERYBODY PAY ATTN TO ME!””

    Said the shouting feminist who can’t help but use all caps to be loud and obnoxious.

  19. And good of you to admit how epically and ridiculously you fail, aws.

    We’re all winners!

    XD

  20. “Yaz is a loser!”

    Not true, Yaz makes a fine grammar slave. Back to work slave

  21. Notice I left out the period after the word slave. Did that to motivate my slaves.

  22. @ Ami ‘He’s rly flailing isn’t he xD Desperately trying to recover indeed xD’

    I mistook all that flailing for an imitation of a dancing monkey. :(
    On the bright side, he doesn’t seem particular upset that I keep tossing in crackers, and he’s making fine use of those cymbals! Just beware the feces flinging. You know it’s coming.

  23. “Just beware the feces flinging.”

    Said the feminist grammar slave and Zionist obsessive/compulsive scatology dweeb.

  24. We are over 1,000. Buh bye for now.

  25. @Yaz, that was a movie quote (a slight misquote, actually, according to google). However, I never correct grammar and spelling, except to ask for clarification of meaning if necessary, because I am not the most diligent proofreader and spellchecker of my own comments. It was not a quick mistake that AWS made (such as typing “there” instead of “their”), it was a repeat misuse of the same terms.

  26. I too have seen Inigo Montoya’s scene in the Princess Bride, darksidecat. ;)

    proofreading grammar and spelling isn’t in the same realm as a basic misunderstanding of what the words actually mean. Which he apparently does not.

    I was agreeing with you. His language comprehension is terrible.

  27. Heh, AWS… Posting the same information that was already debunked. Don’t you remember? Detailing female violence is not the same thing as detailing feminist violence, let alone feminist sadism. You might as well say that all the male criminals indicate that all MRAs are sadists. Oh wait, you probably agree with that.. Hrm…

    “I told you the keywords of psychopaths and criminals. Kirby is a non-factor here. He has little in the way of facts. He almost no research. He had a grand total of one valid post early on where he summarized my views. The rest has been pablum.”

    Aww, he likes me. Sadly he’s conveniently forgotten all the praise he gave me about my “research.” ^__^ And how my “summary” of his views was tongue-in-cheek sarcasm… Ah well.

    I also love how he compulsively had to check his own grammar, even posting exactly 1 minute after his previous one to point out the errors, rather than giving anybody a chance. That and the horribly out of context quotes, the constant non-attributions, the utter failure at detecting when we are messing with him…

    This guy is the best. XD

  28. ” Normally I have to pay someone (usually a pretty female) to check my grammar.”

    OMG you would hire a woman over a man?! Misandrist!

  29. Hmm. He’s gone from using the word “sadist” in every post to using the word “slave” in every post. I take it back, he’s not a frustrated subbie, he’s just a frustrated switchie.

  30. I can’t tell if it was a Poe, or not. I think not, but then it would seem to have a flash of self-aware irony… and then be gone again.

    If it’s not a Poe… I sort of feel sorry for him.

  31. Keep dancing, aws. I’m sure I’m not the only one who finds it hilarious.

    No. No, you’re not.

    I can’t tell if he took my advice and was trying to rewrite the first four comments that I already rewrote, or if he was trying to respond to them in some fashion. Either way, a little ray of sunlight in this thread. And he’s only got … what? 1008 or so more posts to rewrite in a pro-Aws fashion. Hop to it, man!

  32. At least he understood the importance of getting us our 2nd 1000 thread *nods* xD

  33. He’ll be back xD He’s one of those trolls who doesn’t understand his own personality xD He shows up hoping to piss ppl off, gets RLY UPSET himself and then suddenly finds himself unable to stop engaging b/c he needs the last word xD

  34. Oh yeah, he’ll be back. He seems somewhat obsessed with making absolute sure that I know I don’t matter to him at all no really not at all not even a little bit I just thought you should know that. Bbbbuuuttttt… just to throw in a little bait >:D I’ve come up with a list of keywords that indicate the mind of a homophobic, racist, intentionally ignorant boob.

    The Fact
    slave
    sadist
    obsessive about grammar
    thinking once=obsession
    scatology dweeb
    pablum
    insisting on having your own thread
    “buh bye for now”
    intentionally make grammar mistakes to hide the unintentional ones
    out of context quotations
    wet ladies

    I wonder how well AWS stacks up against this completely researched and well documented list of flags? XD

  35. I like how he calls himself The Fact xD It works so well w/ my wrestling world xD Like Ron “The Truth” Killings xD Or when Rocky Maivia became The Rock xD He knows AWS is a ridic name and he’s trying to get himself up to main event status with a gimmick change xD

    The Fact irish whips Kirby and follows it up with a huge clothesline! Oh my goodness what an impact! Kirby is stumbling up… he’s dizzy… here’s The Fact with… THE FACTFINDER!!!! GOOD LAWD ALMIGHTY!!! THE FACT HIT THE FACTFINDER ON KIRBY!!!!! Here’s the pin! 1… 2… 3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  36. He reminds me of the fear demon in the BtVS episode “Fear Itself”, all bluster, but teeny-tiny. I shall call him Gachnar from now on.

  37. Aw, I have a friend whose license plate says Gachnar! Who’s an itty-bitty fear demon?!

  38. HA! That’s a great vanity plate!

  39. I don’t think he’s a Poe, I think he’s an ELIZA. Someone wrote a computer program designed to post chunks of text from The Turner Diaries, and set it loose on Man Boobz. Also notice the repeated use of the “said the X to the Y” formation at random intervals — a dead giveaway.

  40. She also has a vampire fish - she is awesome. :)

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