Here you go. And it’s not even from r/mensrights! It’s from the pics subreddit. Reddit is creepy all over.
Once again, props to ShitRedditSays for pointing me to this one.
Posted on September 29, 2011, in creepy, reddit, sex. Bookmark the permalink. 168 Comments.
Misogyny. I mock it.
I find a lot of it in what's called the "manosphere," a loose collection of Men's Rights, Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW), and Pickup Artist (PUA) sites.
TRIGGER WARNING: I quote some pretty extreme stuff here; also, the comments section is pretty much unfiltered, so be prepared.
Contact me by clicking my head, above, or at futrelle [at] well.com
Enjoy!
David Futrelle
“most of the rest of the world’ = “non-fat male population”
I mean, I know there’s a growing gender imbalance in China, where coincidentally there are also a lot of men who are not fat, but I’m pretty sure that the percentage of the population there that’s female is not down to under 5%.
MRAL - why is it so important to you that everyone have the same preferences as you? Why can’t you just accept that sexual preferences are as individual as the people who have them?? It seriously makes no sense…and is also not supported by any evidence.
According to even the oft-criticized as being too standardized around men and grouping too many women as fat BMI standards say the fat male population outnumbers the fat female population in the US, so what about fat women and the fat men going after each other? (I assume fat genderqueer and other fat queer people do not figure into MRAL land)
Women in the armed forces is a grotesque idea, but no stranger than any of the other lunacy that came out of the XX century. There may even be some merit to it somewhere, though I can’t see any.There is a way to find out, however…
I beliteve that I suggested elsewhere on manboobz. com that making an ALL FEMALE armed forces would highlight the effects of this idiocy best! All submarine crews, all fighter pilots, all infantry, all communication and medical specialists, all command personnel, and so on, all blessed with vaginas, wombs, and XX chromosomes! Engage them in combat with an enemy roughly equivalent to the USA in technology, manpower( okay, womanpower, sorry about that) , supply and logistical capability, and communications, and Let the Games Begin!
My guess is that the enemy will defeat our soldierettes, sailorettes, and marionettes (I don’t know a female term for she-marines) in short order, and the defeat will be indistinguishable from a massacre or a rout, but what do I know?I am only a civilian (and a “sexist” one at that). At least we will find out the answer to the question, are women an asset to modern armed forces or not?
If not, after the war, we can all return to normalcy, and our women, at least the ones who are not carted off to serve the victors, can go MARRY soldiers (or officers) if they want a taste of military life; they can go back to the kitchen, bedroom, and parlor where they belong, and the advocates of this idea will all have rotten egg on THEIR faces!
wishing everyone…
PEACE AND FREEDOM!!
David K. Meller
DKM….. I think you’re in the wrong thread.
Also I’m extremely amused that you put sexist is scare quotes in the middle of that tirade.
I’m deeply amused by David’s Random capitalization For Emphasis. This seems to be a thing with MRAs. Perhaps there’s a manual somewhere?
“How to butcher standard English grammar and punctuation in order to demonstrate your passion for the cause - a user’s guide”
HA, he rage-typed into the wrong thread. LOL
Oops! Sorry! My mistake.
That is why they put erasers on pencils. the point made was also made elsewhere, so it doesn’t really matter.
Close only counts in horseshoes, numbnuts.
And hand grenades!
wishing everyone men…
PEACE AND FREEDOM!!
David K. Meller
there, corrected.
Ah, ambiguity. I meant being accused by circle of friends of sneakily feeding up one’s dieting partner.
Jesus, before someone has a heart attack or something, I was trolling. I knew that would elicit a huge reaction. I don’t condone that kind of stuff.
Meh, I was actually more amused than anything else, in a sad sort of way. I mean you’re what, early 20s? It’s like a kitten puffing itself up, trying to be fierce. “Look at me! I’m a stone-cold manipulative bastard!”
Eurosabra, I’m dating a fat guy and no one accuses me of secretly feeding him. (Or if they did they’d definitely be joking.) Either you’re making this up or you need different friends.
Seconded, Nullpointer. It’s never happened to me either. Also, sneaking food to someone who is dieting is not feederism. That’s not ambiguous, just wrong.
He needs to recalibrate his time machine so it lands him in his preferred century rather than just dumping him into the wrong thread.
MRAL: You really are an asshole. Just so you know.
David K. -
Even though it is the wrong thread, I’d like to let you know what the proper terms are for female soldiers, sailors, and marines.
A female soldier is known as a soldier.
A female sailor is known as a sailor.
A female marine is known as a marine.
I know these terms are new and different but, please try to have some respect by using them as they should be used.
Thanks!
Damn my random comma!
The Random Commas would be an great name for a rock band!
Addendum to lexie di’s comment - if you are going to make up words to describe things it’s best to choose words that do not already mean something else. For example, this is a marionette.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marionette
There’s also this, but given how determined to cling to the past David is I don’t think it would be his cup of tea.
http://www.marionette.se/
Oh man. I have been in the relationship described in the OP, where my boyfriend claimed to love me, but wanted me to lose weight. I have also dated gentlemen who were GOOFY enthusiastic to have sex with my fat self. Guess which kind of relationship I will NEVER HAVE AGAIN?
Gentlemen, we ladies can tell when you are creepy and assholish. And we will not date you. Note: fat ladies are a subset of ladies, and just as likely to be intolerant of hateful bullshit directed at them.
Hengist:
IME, it’s more that caring about looks is fine as long as you don’t get entitled about it. And as long as you recognize that if your dealbreakers — aesthetic or otherwise — limit the dating possibilities available to you, that doesn’t reflect badly on the potential objects of your affection.
MRAL:
Well … yeah. Everyone’s ugly. I’m ugly. Your mother is ugly. There’s no one on earth who would not fall squarely into someone’s definition of “ugly.” There are people who really think Maggie Gyllenhaal is hideous, and don’t just say she is to mislead people about the stringency of their standards.
I suppose I could have said “everyone’s attractive” but either way.
(Also, “fat people are ugly” != “being fat makes a person ugly”)
NullPointer:
Since it’s Eurosabra, I’m actually going to go with the second.
Do not ever, ever, ever, ever, EVER date someone on the idea that you’ll change them. It’s disrespectful to their personal autonomy: if someone wants to be overweight (or would prefer to be skinny but doesn’t want to devote the time and effort to losing weight which is, yes, much more than just eating healthily and exercising), it’s their business, not yours. Also, it won’t work, because human beings are usually stubborn creatures and will continue acting the same way regardless of what you do. Alsoalso, now you are in a relationship with someone you don’t want to date.
Before you date someone, ask yourself: “will I be happy for (whatever expected length of relationship) with a person exactly like this?” If the answer is no, DON’T DATE THEM.
Also, good grid, the world is full of people. Given a choice between “person who I have to change to get them to be my ideal partner” and “person who already is my ideal partner”, why wouldn’t anyone pick the latter?
I like “she-marines”. It sounds like something out of a Robert E. Howard story, or maybe something the Nazgul would snarl right before the she-marines unload an RPG into their undead asses.
Hengist: So as long as we have that settled, is it wrong to gently push someone into improving in the looks department so that side of their attractiveness is also brought up to match the rest?
It’s been covered by others, but yes. It’s not treating them as people, but as things. People are not means to an end, they are an end in their own right. If you can’t deal with that, then you aren’t really a moral person. Children can be tolerated in this, because it takes time to become an entire person, with a truly functioning morality.
But adults, they need to let people be themselves.
lexiedi: A small correction. Marine is always capitalised, for members of the US Marine Corps.
A female member of the Airforce (enlisted) is known as an airman.
Just as a side note: The redditor that posted this is also frequents the /jailbait subreddit (seen from his past comments). Creepy indeed.