Fear and loathing on a date
Let me tell you more about the Pussy Pass ...
The Men’s Rights subreddit on Reddit is awash in mini-manifestos. My favorite of the most recent batch, a rousing 3-part rant running under the title “Do not fear them!”
Who is “them,” you ask?
Women who might just decide that they don’t really want to have sex with some dude who keeps going on about how men are the most oppressed group in the world.
Responding, apparently, to a comment in an earlier thread suggesting “that being publicly vocal about the way men’s rights are trampled on and ignored is a great way to lose the opportunity of getting laid,” manifesto writer Kuppers argues that it just ain’t so - but when it is, just bite your tongue for as long as it takes to get into her pants.
He starts off with a strange variant on the notion that there are plenty of fish in the sea. If you feel that women won’t want to have sex with your Men’s-Rights-espousing self, Kuppers suggests, it’s
because your brain was conditioned in a small communal/tribal setting. A group of angry women was a serious threat to your prospects of reproduction. As you know, women often act like herd animals, and view acceptance and appreciation from their peers of their choice of man to be important. This is completely moot today. There are millions of fish in the sea.
Aside from that final truism I have no fucking idea what he’s talking about. I don’t recall growing up in anything that might possibly be considered – literally or figuratively – a “tribal setting” ruled over by a group – sorry, a herd – of “angry women” hell-bent on keeping me from reproducing. Is this a common experience? Also, I have precisely zero interest in “reproduction.” Indeed, I sort of make it a policy to only have sex with women who are at least as interested in preventing reproduction as I am.
On to point two in this curious document, which is that ladies love dudes with strong opinions:
Women, while they do not always explicitly say so and sometimes contradict so, sincerely do appreciate a man who has strong internal beliefs and principles, and does not compromise that for the sake of assuaging someone else’s sensitivities, including theirs. A man who is willing to pretend he is something he is not, isn’t attractive on a deep masculine level to women.
True, up to a point, but you might want to keep all that shit about women being angry reproduction-threatening herd animals to yourself. That might not go over so well on your first Starbucks coffee date. Or ever. Protip: Misogyny aside, very few people want to get with people who refer to sex as “reproduction.”
But if your desire for sex outweighs your manly desire to be truthful about your obnoxious beliefs, well, that’s all good too – if by “all good” you mean “you can still have angry sex with women you despise if you just keep your pie hole shut for a few hours.” Or, as Kuppers puts it in his third and final point, which he apparently doesn’t realize completely contradicts point number two:
The kind of woman who a) wants you to be subordinate to her crazy foaming feminist nonsense, and b) has no tolerance or patience for your concerns, is not worth anything more than a cheap, well-protected fuck anyway. Fine, keep your mouth shut for the couple of hours it takes to get her into bed, but you’d be mad to pursue anything more serious with a woman like that.
Men’s Rightsers – such romantics at heart!
Posted on June 3, 2011, in antifeminism, evil women, men who should not ever be with women ever, misogyny, MRA, oppressed men, sex. Bookmark the permalink. 426 Comments.
These “truths” from someone who lauds the 50s era.
Even sadder, who thinks of sex as something that women don’t enjoy or need or have because they want to.
@Plymouth the wonderful woman who helps facilitate the trauma therapy program I go to is like you xD Or at least I think so… and I think she’s older than you, but her style is what I call “office goth” xD It’s SO AWESOME xD It’s like respectable, but also dark and cool :3 I’ve never seen nething like it but I am impressed :]
(I had a goth phase too >_> )
what’s my favorite color? PURPLE! My favorite shade is BLACK.
What’s my favorite food? SUSHI!
What was the last book I bought? The newest 3 Walking Dead comic compilations.
How many siblings do I have? 3 sisters- two older and one younger.
I have an autographed PAPER PLATE, who was it signed by? GWAR! I also have autographs from Dr. John and Negativland.
What breed is my dog? I have no dog but 2 cats, Destructo-Zynx and Gyoza!
I just made 36 and I still wear mostly black. I will always love wearing combat boots and mesh anything. :3
Oh, and I forgot to answer one of my questions. I have one sister.
1) Sure, I’ve gotten gifts from men. I also give presents to my male friends, my brother, my dad, and my boyfriend. Have you never gotten a gift from a woman? I’m sorry. Maybe if you were nicer to them?
2) I’m not sure what “skimpy” clothing means exactly. Is there a definition? And I usually am naked at home, so your crap about not wearing “skimpy” clothes at home makes no sense. I am not a fan of most makeup but I do wear some foundation to cover some scars on my face. I mainly do it because I am embarrassed by the scars, and I want to look presentable at work. I will wear more makeup on special occasions, like weddings, mainly because it’s EXPECTED of women too. I’ve been told by friends inviting me to their wedding to “please wear makeup and heels”.
3) I don’t have a leash on my boyfriend, he can talk to whomever he wants. Why would I care? And I have never been with a guy in my life that didn’t like it if I dressed up for him, and though I was dressing up for OTHER GUYS. talk about insecure!! My bf likes me naked best and doesn’t seem to care about clothes. But I dated one guy who loved a pair of shoes I owned, and I would wear them when we went out for some good sex when we got back. If I was with a guy who asked me not to wear something because of some stupid reason like “it attracts mens attention” I’d dump him.
1. I seriously supported my (now ex) bf through undergrad. He lived at my place without paying rent and he couldn’t afford to go out to dinner so, when I felt like a date, I paid. That was for, like, 4 years! (And now I resent it b/c we broke up pretty much as soon as he had enough money to pull his own weight. In fact, he seems to qualify as a user.)
2. The reasons for my clothing choices varies! According to where I’m going and how I feel that day! Crazy stuff. So, when I’m teaching at uni (I’m quite young compared to other teachers) I try to dress up (knee-length skirts, tights, t-shirt) so as to differentiate myself a little from my students. Most of the time when I go clubbing, I dress to fit in with the club’s vibe or to deliberately subvert it, depending on how I’m feeling. When I’ve gone to a club to pick up, I’ve certainly worn clothes to attract men’s attention. Cos, y’know, I wanted to screw someone I was attracted to (this has never worked out - all the people I’ve randomly picked up have been terrible kissers…and they never bought me drinks).
3. My bf flirts ALL THE TIME. He is one of those people who manages to make it very clear to everyone that he’s flirting but that it’s not serious. It’s how he communicates. I had a problem with a previous bf who flirted because it was more serious…turns out I was right to be upset cos he cheated on me twice. And all the people I’ve been with have wanted me to wear skimpier clothing. Current bf’s go-to answer to ‘what should I wear, this skirt or this skirt?’ is, ‘no skirt - in fact, what do you mean you’re putting on clothes?’