Zed the MGTOWer: “Feminism and women have been proceeding on the unshakable belief that men are still going to want and care about them no matter how awful they get.”
Men’s Rights a hate group? Pshaw! MRA’s don’t hate women! I mean, really, it’s more like an emotional numbness based on how objectively awful women are. Combined with a deep desire for revenge. That’s not hate, is it?
Apparently a good chunk of Men’s Rights Redditors don’t think it is, I gather from their positive reaction to this lovely quote from Men’s Rights/MGTOW elder Zed:
Not that many people would be proud to admit that they’re basically pickled in the juices of their own resentment, but, hey, this is why brave Zed is a Men’s Rights hero.
EDITED TO ADD: And now this Zed quote has 88 upvotes, which gives me the excuse to use my “dozens of upvotes” tag.
Like this:
Posted on November 12, 2012, in antifeminism, dozens of upvotes, evil women, hate, men who should not ever be with women ever, MGTOW, misogyny, MRA, oppressed men, reddit, your time will come, zed and tagged antifeminism, men's rights, mgtow, misogyny, reddit. Bookmark the permalink. 61 Comments.
I was going to go with
That would work for me, except that I took a different drug and now I have the muchies
Men’s rights activists: a bunch of dills.
Munchies, dammit, I have the munchies.
He’s like a logic-fail superhero, leaping wide cogntive gaps in a single bound, to get from “I was exploited and fucked over by a few women” to “all women exploit and fuck over all men at all times and men never do it to women”.
Good night y’all. Apropos of nothing I leave you with
I think I have some pickled asparagus spears in the back of my fridge - I’m off to find them.
I’m not sure, but I think he may just be complaining about his genital warts.
And while they’re watching, they too will be…growing old and dying alone. Okay then!
Why do these guys seem to think that they’re the default mode of thinking, like all men are gonna flip tables and suddenly go their own way. Are they so blind that they can’t tell that most men are just, you know, normal people, who live in society like normal people, and can handle rejection and breakups with grace. Also, are they not capable of introspection at all?
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=OkCiv5BjsOI&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DOkCiv5BjsOI&gl=GB
Don’t know if link will work, posting from tablet
Clairedammit: LMAO at the beatboxing puffer fish.
The lead guy of King Missile also did this.
Dammit, Youtube, that was totally wrong! This is the one.
Can’t say I’m surprised that an MRA doesn’t understand biology but usually the fails are related to ladyparts. Increased sensitivity is pretty common in scars (some do have decreased sensitivity and no change in sensitivity is also common). I have some scars that are 10+ years old that are still more sensitive than the surrounding area.
I placed a small bet with myself that “years of women ripping into my guts” translated to “I really wanted a girlfriend when I was a teenager but she said no and then later my wife divorced me because I treated her like shit” but then I clicked through to the original and found it to be over 700 deranged pages long. So I couldn’t be arsed to confirm what now seems an even safer bet.
How the hell does anyone have 700 pages worth of “and then he/she was really mean to me and it broke my hear” to write about? What is this guy, the Casanova of dysfunctional relationships?
If the pronouns were reversed, this could have been written by any one of thousands of women who have been royally screwed over my man after man after man. I guess the lesson here is both men and women lose their innocence/trust to someone who wasn’t looking out for their best interest at one time or another in their lives, the only difference is how you handle it. Does it make you stronger and more capable of love or does it make you bitter, angry and alone? This blaming of an entire gender is an easy cop out for not dealing with the pain. Just my two cents.
By the way, I’m a huge fan of this blog.
I placed a small bet with myself that “years of women ripping into my guts” translated to “I really wanted a girlfriend when I was a teenager but she said no and then later my wife divorced me because I treated her like shit” but then I clicked through to the original and found it to be over 700 deranged pages long. So I couldn’t be arsed to confirm what now seems an even safer bet.
Yeah, I love it when MRAs wail and gnash their teeth over the horrifying injustices done to them by feminism, and how they’ve suffered like dogs and it’s all so awful the WORLD just might as well END, and when they actually describe the horror it turns out to be “I don’t get enough hot dates.”
I’m not going to bother to click through to this goof’s 700-page e-book, but I see the comments section on the Reddit thread is already filling up with exactly this flavor of MRA self-pity. Plus the requisite guy bragging about moving to a foreign country where things are better because there’s “not a whiff of ‘equality’ talk.” That’s where the trouble starts, people wanting equality.
BUTBUTBUT there’s a natural order of things, where Whitey-Abled McCis-Straightdude the Third should be on top, so if any of those silly other people want to be equal, that means they want to be the same as WACSD3, which means that THEY WANT TO BE ON TOP AND WANT TO HAVE ALL THE PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT, which would mean that WACSD3 wouldn’t get preferential treatment and THAT’S DISCRIMINATION.
/MRA ‘logic’
No talk of equality from the wimminz, of course. Talk of equality from misogynstic dudes on Reddit is much more important.
DARVO
minor nit pick, but yeah, scars aren’t devoid of nerves or sensation. I don’t know where the hell they got that idea from. In fact it is pretty common to have recurring scar pain from surgery…
I don’t find blaming an entire gender rational, but I would hardly equate the complaints from women vs men about getting screwed over constantly. The complaints from men seem to be of the “she wouldn’t fuck me often enough” or “she was financially greedy” variety (as evidenced by this entire website), while complaints from women seem to be about being sexually or physically assaulted, or having an ex who refuses to pay child support or parent, etc.
Most men are happy in their romantic relationships with women or are hopeful that they someday will be. So these losers will never get their movement to grow beyond a small minority of men. And you know, women get screwed over my men too. It’s best to get over it and move on.
I couldn’t get past the title without going, “But MRAs are the ones who insist men neeeeeeeed sex with women and that Horrible Things Will Happen if their boners are not regularly serviced. So apparently, yes,
bonersmen are going to want women, and care about what they’re up to, no matter how “awful” they get.”Also, I’m pretty sure being pickled in the juices of one’s own resentment is pretty much the opposite of Zen.
These guys fear women not needing dudes.
But somehow it always comes out as, “If you don’t behave the way we want, we won’t be your boyfriends/husbands! So there!”
Of course, any dude who thinks or says anything like that can garantee his own singlehood. And these aren’t people who relish alone time or bachelorhood, they desperately want a women who wants to be with them — and their bitterness over that comes across loud and clear.
I also think it’s funny how MRA’s think all women are feminists. It’s like, all cats are girls, all dogs are boys.
…I realized I was trying to bone zombies.
Zed’s making the classic MRA mistake in thinking all women are feminists. I’m pretty sure the women who go for guys like Zed are NOT feminists, they just don’t want to be with assholes.
I am fascinated by funcuz’s innovative new punctuation for the end of sentences . What is it with MRAs/MGTOWs and weird punctuation ? Two dot ellipses, spaces before terminal punctuation … Weird .
…so I decided to move on to vampires. But alas, she-vamps, I discovered, only want to suck a man’s blood.
I refuse to accept that MRAs are pickles. I love pickles.
Sorry, I was finishing whataboutthemoonz’s sentence. Tee-hee.
Shalom David,
I was just thinking precisely what you said in this piece. MRM is now going to be called the Men’s Hate Group and they are wishing for revenge. Here’s a take on the same ole’ reproductive rights whinging. Enjoy my vid
I’m just going to leave this here: http://www.the-spearhead.com/2012/11/12/christian-mens-defense-network-blog-shutting-down/
Who knew people with vaginas could “elasticate” them with cats and rappers? (See comments.)
I think it is more about having to do more than just exist that bothers these guys with women being able to not need a man to obtain food, shelter and clothing. They have to do things like be nice and respectful. Horror!
You know you suck when Data says you suck.
*hurries off to find Spiner on Twitter to follow*
Elasticate is my new favorite word, even though I have no idea what the hell it means.
Great video, Diana, and well said. I agree that it is very unlikely for any laws to be made saying it’s okay for a guy to impregnate someone and then head for the hills to avoid any responsibility. Liberals say “You can’t do that to your own blood. You can’t let your own children starve” while conservatives say “Don’t make us pay for your babies, deadbeat dad”. Hell would freeze over before any politician takes on that “cause”.
He called PMAFT an asshat. LOL, way to go, Commander Data!
How the hell do you elasticate a vagina with cats? Of course Rmaxed think this is the height of wit.
I’m intrigued to see that
How did this happen? And when?
@Wetherby: That second quote- I can’t stop giggling.
Small Penis Shaming
1876—2012
Died Saving Feminism From A Misogynist Rock
RIP(ENIS)
“First they came for the small penises … “
“First they ignore your small penis, then they laugh at your small penis, then they fight your small penis with mighty rocks, then your small, slightly bruised penis rises from the ashes (wait, ASHES?) and vanquishes all the feminists, creating an eternal kingdom of and for men and their docile handmaidens.”
So how exactly does a disembodied penis do anything, regardless of actual size?
They’re more dickles. Or jerkins. Or pukeumbers.
“What Men’s rights have you been reading? there is no misogyny here and no denial of the real issues facing women, are you here to troll perhaps?” LOLOLOL
From page 75 of Zed’s “book”:
That’s the very beginning of the “Female Sexuality” section. You can basically stop reading there. The very next page begins the sub-section “Status and Ranking,” which goes for six pages and illuminates female sexuality with an explanation of the Female Status Scoring system. Like, shit, even Freud thought the clitoris was at least relevant—that word doesn’t appear even once in the entire book.
Misogyny? What misogyny?
Given the context (and the name of the website), I completely misread “mighty ROCK” for a second there - which just made this comment even funnier (and probably a more accurate representation of what the guy who wrote it was imagining).
Made me laugh!
And here’s Zed’s tips on how he maintains that gorgeous misogynist lustre:
No wonder he’s achieved satori!
I love how MRMs pretend all men are like them. My parents are in their 60s and still dance around the kitchen together *gags a little*.
My grandparents were still in love in their 80s. My grandma completely broke down once my grandpa died. Drinking and whatnot.
MRMs pretend that the fact that their break up didn’t go well it means the woman was manipulative and heartless and ripped their guts out.
Apparently women having preferences is a bad thing to him because it means what? He can no longer be rage filled at the idea of women having preferences?
“They’re more dickles. Or jerkins. Or pukeumbers.”
Not jerkins, they’re classy and gorgeous, things no MRA could achieve.
Alas, poor jerkin, I know it well
/is 12 today
Hey, I remember Zed! I thought he had died or something. Maybe that was a different MGTOW elder.
I also think that married men are actually less likely to have MRAish views, unless they’re bundled together with general right wing stupidity. If the internet is any indication, it’s the younger men that would seem to be pissed off at the wimminz.
… so then I tried werewolves, but Shakira went all she-wolf and was sexual in my direction. Women are hypergamous sluts!
/annoying
Whataboutthemoonz, I was going to go trick or treating with my sister this year, but it turns out that there’s sort of like a gap in which it’s just not seemly to be walking around collecting pieces of candy with a bunch of preschoolers at 8 PM… and that gap is roughly ages 19-24. Adults can obviously go with their kids, but me? I’m fucked. I got fucked candy-wise this year. Goddamn I’m getting angry just thinking about it. I’m sitting at my desk and you know I know I should be chewing something right now, but I’m not, because I got no fucking candy this year. Meanwhile the little jackholes are probably all up to their eyeballs in Snickers and Kit Kats and whatever, and there’s no way they’re ever going to eat all that in the next millennium. You say we live in a free market? That’s bullshit. I should be the one with the biggest share, my stomach is bigger than all the little dickheads who were given license by society to run around demanding free food from their poor hardworking neighbors. Jesus, that pisses me off. Why do we even allow them to do that? If aliens came down on Halloween, what they’d see is a bunch of pushy midgets running around getting free crap. Freeloaders.
Seriously these MGTOW guys need massive therapy. Blaming all women because you have been hurt by a couple is intensely neurotic and speaks of some pathology.This MGTOW dude Zed wants men to be celibate, seperate from and avoid women rather than look at the log in his own eye. Even if what these guys claim is true that more and more men are going MGTOW, I would rather stay single than deal with some sociopath.
@deodorant
also think that married men are actually less likely to have MRAish views, unless they’re bundled together with general right wing stupidity. If the internet is any indication, it’s the younger men that would seem to be pissed off at the wimminz
I disagree. I have seen on various MRA type blogs that even married men can be just as misogynistic as single men. I have read some virulently misogynistic comments from married men. I wonder what their wives think?
However, I have noticed that younger men seem more and more angry at women. I agree with you on that. I wonder why that is? Why this generation of younger men are so angry at women?