Feminists! Terrible news! “Heartiste” has been having sex with you!

There’s no good way to illustrate this post so here’s sleepy Maru in a box.

 

Lady feminists! I have some terrible, terrible news for you from pickup artiste Heartiste, the would-be God Emperor of Poon. Apparently he and his pals have been having sex with you all.

Heartiste lets us all in on this little secret in a post earlier this month titled “Lots Of Feminists Are Getting Banged Out By PUAs.” He explains that those dudes who “scavenge snatch” in upscale white neighborhoods in big American cities – what Heartiste in an attempt at humor likes to call Stuff White People Like Land (or SWPL-Land) – will by definition score with some of you feminist ladies.

This is because most girls in the big blue population sinks of SWPL-Land are feminists of one stripe or another. You can’t swing an Emperor Deluxe condom without hitting a feminist in the cooch if you live or operate within these zones of misandry.

Heartiste helpfully spells out for his readers some of the different kinds of feminists to be found in these misandry zones.

The first, the most extreme exponents of radical feminism are what one of his readers calls the “Jizzabel-type feminazi,” or what Heartiste himself calls “the femcunts.”

Yes, that’s right. Apparently the most radical of all feminist publications, the SCUM Manifesto for our internet era, is Jezebel.

Heartiste explains:

These are your Jizzebomb fanatics, the devotees of feminism as a life-affirming ideology. They are the smallest in number, but the loudest in bitchery and kookery. This is the kind of manjawed girl — typically a lawyer, academic, organic farmer or diversity consultant — who reads and comments daily at sites like Feministing and Slate/Salon/SuckMyClit with furrowed brow, regurgitating what she learns therein at parties and in the middle of dates, exposing a vile expectation that all the world should agree with where her retarded logic takes her.

Uh, I’m familiar with Feministing, and Slate and Salon, but I’m afraid I don’t have any idea about this mysterious “SuckMyClit” site he’s referring to. (There isn’t even a site up by that name, though enterprising publishers will be happy to learn that the domain name is for sale.)

Heartiste continues:

As long as you don’t embroil yourself in her occasional tantrums at invisible enemies, and keep the pick-up light and breezy while steering her in different conversational directions whenever you sniff the approach of another feminist tirade carried along by the id winds, you will get the bang. She is, underneath her femcuntery, still a woman, and as such (however much you may need reminding) she will respond viscerally to ancient cues of your mate worthiness, and her vagina will flower in spectacular opposition to the wilting of her mind.

Heartiste is an even worse writer of erotic fiction than E.L. James.

Oh, and here’s another little bit of shitthatneverhappened.txt. (TW for crude rape reference.)

You don’t want to stay with women like these beyond a few hate smashes, so for shits and giggles I suggest you regale her in the morning with your support of the Second Amendment and the ludicrousness of the equal pay myth. For bonus soul-shivving points, casually muse aloud, after you have sprayed her mug and she’s inserted her glazed face into your armpit nook, that 1 in 5 women who are being raped will orgasm during the act.

Yes, that’s right. Heartiste is publicly posting his fantasies about Jezebel-reading radical feminists rubbing semen (his own) into his armpits with their faces.

Next in Heartiste’s imaginary classification scheme come The Partisans.

These are the girls who occasionally read feminist blogs (usually when a fat femcunt friend passes along a link) and parrot the benumbing Cathedral crap they hear on TV and read in approved MSM papers. But these soapbox episodes are blessedly infrequent and pass unremarked, unless they manage to corral some dipshit manboob into acting as a sounding board for their cockamamy nonsense on white male privilege and socially constructed beauty standards (Hugs Shyster, Scrotumless Scalzi, I’m looking at you two distilled estrogen pools.)

Hey, a shoutout! Thanks, pal!

And finally, The Lemmings:

MOST women in the cities will have spent the better part of their sexually adventurous single girl years steeped in the platitudes of feminism, and they will know nothing else. Combined with women’s natural aversion to abstract thinking beyond immediate, selfish concerns, what you wind up with is a population of lickspittle lemmings who mindlessly nod in agreement every time a talking head exploiting this deficiency in the mental circuitry of half the voting public sonorously intones something about “equal pay for equal work”, or “war on women”. The Lemmings, by far the largest group of women you will likely encounter unless you live in South Dakota, include all types of girls, from club sluts to self-important HR robots to daddy’s princesses to deliriously frantic scenesters. Luckily for your sanity, these girls do not take feminism seriously … .

In the end, Heartiste tells his readers that “90% of your city’s women are feminist in name if not in execution.”

So they’re feminists, even though they’re not really feminists. Gotcha. With such an expansive definition, it’s no wonder Heartiste is convinced that a significant portion of the women he “bangs out” – whether in the real world or in his fevered imagination – are feminists of some sort.

He concludes:

Most hardcore feminists, whether or not they know it, are fucking men who either pretend to give a shit about their precious ideology, or don’t even bother with the pretense of pretending to give a shit about it. In fact, the majority of men, and an even bigger majority of players, are like me: they find feminism absurd on its face and will dismissively change the subject anytime the girls they are seeing make the mistake of veering into feminist bromide territory. Most girls are sensible and will know when their feminist retardation is turning off the men they like, and will quickly fall in line with the change of subject.

There are exceptions. A few supercharged feminists will eventually wind up with sycophantic manboobs for lovers, and a more perfect pairing I couldn’t imagine.

Aw. Another shoutout. It’s almost as if he has some sort of he-man heterosexual man crush on me.

 

Posted on January 16, 2013, in antifeminism, beta males, creepy, douchebaggery, heartiste, kitties, men who should not ever be with women ever, misandry, misogyny, rape, sex, shit that never happened, vaginas, worst writing in the history of the universe and tagged , , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 207 Comments.

  1. I wonder if we could develop a simple code for identifying precisely what type of person [name] is for the different types of troll. Your Eurosabras are rather different to your Rubies, after all - as evidenced by actually posting more than once in a thread - and that can be confusing to the uninitiated.

  2. I think the issue here is that Heartiste has a very different view of what it means for a woman to go on a feminist tirade than most people do.

    I mean, I go on them from time to time, in my small circle of friends/immediate family who know and love me and mostly agree with me (though not always - see also, sister who always feels the need to talk about how she’s not feminist AT ALL, but still believes some core feminist stuff like, hey, women should be able to work outside the house if they want to, and like vote and stuff) but I don’t just do it in front of a bunch of strangers or people I barely know and especially not at a party or club with a lot of strangers/people I barely know. Partly because even though feminism is near and dear to my heart, a lot of other things are too and I like to talk about them all, and sometimes if I’m trying to just enjoy myself, I don’t talk at all and just let others talk. But mostly because I know my opinions aren’t the norm and especially if I’m just trying to relax and have fun, I do NOT want to start a debate with half the people at my table. It’s exhausting enough sometimes just reading the shitstained comments on yet another article about yet another politician coming up with yet another anti-woman scheme, I don’t feel the need to bring that upon myself in meatspace.

    I’m imagining that for Heartiste a feminist tirade is a woman having an opinion about anything at all. That’s the only possible way he can have met so many women he thinks are feminists who go off on feminist tirades in clubs or at other laid back social events. I mean, hell, I don’t think I even witnessed a single tirade in my sociology of gender class - in retrospect, I kind of wonder if our professor ever got frustrated at how NOT angry most of us were.

  3. “Greetings, female. Can I fuck you in the ass and come on your face this evening?”

    “No. By the way, who the hell are you?”

    “Cease your feminist tirade immediately!”

  4. Or, alternative scenario:

    “Nice press-on nails. Care to buy me a drink?”

    “No, thanks.” [goes back to chatting with friends]

    “Feminist bitch.”

  5. “Nice boobs, how much did you pay for them?”

    (Raised eyebrows) “Excuse me?”

    “Fucking feminists, always ranting at innocent men about their lickspittle agenda.”

  6. PUAs are a cargo-cultism. Their thinking is really no different from other magical thinking.

    For example they base the entire scam on trying as many women as possible. The gurus recommend guys to “train” their “skills” in public places, at clubs, everywhere on as many different women as possible. This is supposed to build up their skills but what it really does is build a smoke screen.

    I can only assume these PUAs are not in fact familiar with the rational and logical thinking they advertise so much, else they would be familiar with probability. The PUAs often boast hitting on 10 or much more women until they “score”, and then think the score is due to their pick up skills. Alas, maths disagrees. It’s of course not possible to calculate an exact probability, how many times do you have to try until you get sonething right, in terms of dating because people are unpredictable. But in general, you can assume that if you hit on a lot of people one of them will be interested if you’re not completely antisocial and repulsive on the first glance. Just like you will get two 6′s if you throw dice enough times. It’s pretty basic level knowledge.

    But people are pattern-seeking and pattern-loving animals. Ours brains look for patterns everywhere, especially when encouraged to do so. I study all sort of pseudomedicine as a hobby and I see the same effect there all the time. Random and/or probable events are attributed to whatever magic cure the patient believes in. An illness normally has a predictable cycle of development, from the initial symptoms to eventual healing. Many will be cured by our immune systems alone without any intervention having any effect on the illness (such as the common cold). But many people do all sort of ritualistic things, from vitamins to garlic in socks and attribute any perceived improvement to their cure of choice, even though the disease would have improved all the same without the intervention. Large epidemiological studies prove that there is no cause-and-effect between the “cure” and getting better, it’s all probability, good chance and natural curve of development of the illness. But good timing, or even lack of it, can make a person perceive a pattern that does not exist.

    The same applies to PUAs. They repeat the dice roll (hitting on individual women) often enough and get two 6′s (get laid). Then they attribute the chance result to their belief that the women had sex with them because of their pick-up skills, because accepting the truth of a chance occurence would damage their insecure egos. Just the same as a cancer patient that got cured after surgery and chemo will attribute their cure not to the medicine and surgery but to the prayer they recited daily (if religious) or to the herbal remedy they took (if believer in herbal medicine), despite evidence saying otherwise. If the person has invested a huge amount of personal energy, time, money etc into a belief, enough to make the belief a large part of their personality and their very self, they will fight with all their capacity against contradicting evidence. Their core persona is being threatened, and their mind will try to protect itself from any damage. This is a proven phenomenon that occurs in a lot of contexts (one great study examined attitudes to capital punishment and gun laws and how people reacted when shown evidence contradicting their beliefs; they thought the contradicting evidence flawed and actually strenghtned their original position; i recall from other studies that being aware

    of this phenomenon regarding irrational beliefs makes it less prominent, so one can learn to control it) so you can look it up.

    All the evidence points to PUA gurus being nothing but age-old hucksters and scammers, peddling their special variant of snake oil to the susceptible: the young, insecure, narcissistic men who don’t have the means to get what they feel entitled to. The PUA message is like opium to these men, evangelised by men they aspire to be: well-groomed, dressed in expensive clothing and bragging about their jetsetting lives shagging young women. Deep down these guys must know it’s too good to be true, but giving up on the dream they invested in is too threatening. It’s like gambling in the hopes of making a fortune; a handful of lucky players might just make it but everyone knows the chances are abysmal. Yet it’s so tempting, because people don’t understand how probability works.

    There, I’ve rationally debunked your pick up “artistry” (I’m leaving the parts concerning women and their reactions for another time). With my illogical ladybrain, too. I’m so glad my SO, despite obviously having a disadvantaged guybrain, does not have whatever faults they might be that cause the PUA syndrome. Because that syndrome makes one incapable of rational thinking.

  7. @ostara321 Or he’s saying really offensive or horrible things that would make a lot of people angry.

    I mean, I never go on tirades in such settings (not related to gender, at least. I’ve gotten into a few religion-related arguments before) and like I said earlier, they are always the ones who bring it up. I try to steer the conversation in another direction if they say something I don’t like, but if someone says something really awful (like boasting about how they got away with rape) I usually can’t keep quiet. I have several very religious friends who consider themselves anti-feminists, and I know for a fact they (both the male and the female ones) would be shocked at these statements. I wonder if for Heartiste (can’t get over that name) anyone who is not as misogynist as he is is automatically a feminist (or a ‘liberal’, or whatever other dismissive term).

  8. [woman accidentally bumps into him in crowded club]
    “Whoa, if you wanted to meet me, you could just say Hi.”
    “Oh, sorry, I didn’t mean to bump into you.”
    “Is your vagina opening like a flower now, while your brain is wilting in ecstasy?”
    “Um, I’m pretty sure my vagina just wilted, actually.”
    “WHY DON’T YOU GO HOME TO YOUR CATS, YOU HAIRY-LEGGED WANNABE LESBIAN HAG!!!”

  9. cloudiah - I’m seeing her flashing her legs at him like Kate Beaton’s Straw Feminists now, just to frighten him away! :D

  10. cloudiah & CassandraSays, LOL! I’m pretty sure that’s exactly how it goes. Any woman who doesn’t throw herself at Heartiste’s feet after two seconds of his negging is obvs a radfem.

  11. eline - the thing that gets me is that surely these guys are ramping up their chances of rejection by running around with this supposed wonder script. Wouldn’t trying to hit on women by acting like a complete douche make their overall chances of sex worse? It’d sure knock the stuffing out of their chances of having a fun evening that didn’t lead to sex. Of course that assumes anyone who’s been sucked in by PUA actually wants to socialise, of course … surely they don’t all hate women as much as Roissy does.

  12. @Carleyblue - yes, exactly. I have a hard time keeping quiet if it’s something they bring up that’s really bad (like, a sister’s ex-coworker who felt the need to call the dark allyway that lead to his apartment building “rape street”) but for the most part, I don’t even like to talk politics with people I don’t know very well, especially at a party or club. And in my experience, it’s the people who repeat Fox News talking points, who have to bring up such wrongheaded things even moderates or mildly right of center people would say “um, actually, no, it’s not like that at ALL.”

  13. New Pierre, yayyy!

    So, is he about to have a serious case of Feline Paralysis? :)

    Love the glimpse of his blue jammies.

  14. KITTY!

    *ahem*

    (Weird thing is I’m not a great fan of animals in person - combination of feeling like they might attack me and I might break them…)

  15. I love the cat scratcher and little pink mouse. What font are you using, katz? I like.

  16. The font is Tekton Pro (it came with my copy of Photoshop). Unlike most comic artists, I prefer using mixed case, which cuts down my options a lot.

  17. RE: CassandraSays/inurashii

    Aaaaand it’s shit like that that meant I didn’t want much to do with the scene. I looked at it, heard all the horror stories, and wanted nothing to do with it.

  18. katz, you are a comic artist going your own way (CAGYOW, which I think sounds like a Canadian kitty’s meow).

  19. CAGYOW - love it!

    It also sounds similar to the mythical Yowie (a downunder rello of Bigfoot, the Yeti and so on).

  20. Oh! Hey guys! Hey hey! :D

    Remember my webcomic I was talking about? Well, still working on getting the site up and running (I have enough strips that the tech side is going to keep me busy a bit), but some of the earliest strips are up for viewing: http://lb-lee.tumblr.com/tagged/doodlestrips

    Because I have like, ninety strips, and they’re all in pencil, I’m trying to decide whether it’s worthwhile to go back and ink every single one of them. (Normally not that long a process, but… NINETY STRIPS.) So I come to Manboobz!

    Anyone have thoughts or preferences?

    So far, the tentative title is Cracks of Sunshine.

  21. This made me laugh pretty hard:

  22. I like Cracks of Sunshine as a name. “Foresight” was my favorite even though… ouch. No opinion on the inking; I think they look pretty good as is, though inking might make them easier to read.

  23. Love the Leather Anniversary and the superpower of Glitch!

    I’d say just ink the ones you want to - doesn’t have to be all or none. If you think one works as is, leave it, or just darken the text a bit.

    Cracks of Sunshine makes me think of plumbers in a Melbourne suburb … NOOOOOOOOO! ;)

  24. Yay doodle strips!

    Inking would be helpful; I found some of them a little hard to make out. But you are mainly doing these to relax anyway, and I wouldn’t want to make them more of a burden.

  25. The insult game also fits right in with male culture. Group of guys together, they lob insulting jokes about each other back and forth and the guy with the best zinger wins. Everyone laughs. So maybe some guys think the same approach will work with women and don’t realize that women are often socialized completely differently in this respect.

    There’s also the fact they don’t realise that “shit you say to your mates” and “shit you say to people you just met and you want them to like you” rarely overlap…

    Back in high school, my group of friends (all but 1 were girls) were really into zingers. Zingers differ from negging though, in that they are actually funny, and carefully done to never insult someone about their actual insecurities. My best friend (the guy), would often zing new people and then apologise by saying he was sorry - he only joked like that with people he liked, which was true. We never acted like that with people we didn’t actually like.

    But, I rarely see that friend much anymore, and when I do, the things he says seem mean rather than funny. I don’t know whether he’s gotten nastier or if I am just not used to it anymore.

    But what about the whole snark culture that is dominated by women (for eg Regretsy)?. That is the same kind of humour, but directed outward instead of within the group.

  26. I totally know that feel in “Foresight.” My knee isn’t the best, but it usually doesn’t give me trouble. Stairs are a growing problem, though.

    I like Cracks of Sunshine, it’s hopeful. (We just sat under three and a half days of rain and a half day of snow, I could use some sunshine! Hey Kitteh’s and lowquacks, could we borrow about five degrees? We have a metric fucktonne of water to trade for them.)

  27. Done deal, Falconer! Your degrees will be packed and sent by courier this afternoon. Don’t forget the special offer: upgrade to Celsius and get two for the price of one!

  28. Thanks, guys! Thankfully, my knee is good now. The early strips are definitely the roughest, since I hadn’t gotten into the habit of drawing everyday and I hadn’t figured out what the subject matter was going to be. (Also, I was going CRAZY being trapped on the couch all the time.) And I’m going to either try to ink or reletter them, at least, because I know my handwriting is a pain in the ass. (Plus, the earliest ones I didn’t figure would ever be a webcomic.)

  29. OH the inking thing! I tend to prefer comics that are inked, because I find pencils hard to read sometimes, but you don’t look like you’re doing anything too intricate, and I can read yours just fine.

    For instance, I once saw a pencilled panel from a Transformers comic in which the characters were so riddled with cracks and cosmetic wear that they were hard to make out against the background.

    I have a little trouble sometimes with lettering that isn’t uniform (that’s my problem, not yours, and I think maybe it comes from reading mainstream comics more than indies and underground), and inked letters stand out better, I think.

    But it’s your comic. Don’t let me dictate how you work it.

  30. @Kitteh’s, I was kind of doing a rough Celsius. I figger 5 C is about 10 F, which won’t make it T-shirt weather but I won’t have to scrape my car in the mornings.

  31. RE: Falconer

    I know that my handwriting is rotten for comics lettering; it’s something I’m working to improve, but there’s a long ways to go. At the least, I’ll fix up the lettering, and I’m going to ink the new strips. The old ones are on such crappy paper that I haven’t quite figured out what I’m going to do with them yet.

    As for the title, a friend of mine came up with it. I was having trouble finding a title that expressed the kind of feeling I’m going for, that mental illness can suck, but it doesn’t devalue the human who has it, and that there shouldn’t be shame in admitting about the horrible things that happen sometimes.

  32. @LBT: No worries, you’ll get better, and in the meantime I’ll enjoy your comics because the lettering is only a teensy problem.

  33. Can you ink them in Illustrator/Photoshop? So you don’t have to worry about the paper.

  34. @Katz
    Yay, that was a great comic :D

  35. Argenti Aertheri

    LBT — I totally don’t trust myself with ink/markers/pens/etc (I need my eraser damnit!), so I scan and print a copy of the original, in case I fuck it up. Point here is that you can get them on higher quality paper doing that.

    Bearing my distrust of ink in mind, I’d only ink the words.

    Sneak is strangely proud of your room, guess optimism makes the best of things?

    Kitteh — can we arrange some system whereby we average the templates here and there? It’s supposed to be a high of 0°C tomorrow, -7°C tops with the windchill. That should average to a nice 20°C / 70°F or so.

  36. @LBT- Those are really really good; I like them! I like the name! I also think that you should re-ink/photoshop them a bit to make them easier to read. But you don’t have to do them all right away; you could do your favorites and then clean the rest up as you continue to post new content (it worked for Jeph Jacques).

  37. Sounds like an excellent plan, Argenti. Make it a sort of permanent spring/autumn temps (with nights cold enough to get colour in the trees because I WANT COLOURED TREES, DAMMIT).

    Now how to do it … there must be a way!

  38. btw, I love all the artistic awesome we have going on in the commentariat, between Katz, LBT, and Shaenon, we have a proper little artists’ colony, and I like all you guys’ work sooo much!

  39. I have finally been able to watch the Maru video. My intertubes at home seem to have melted in the heat, everything is sooooo sloooow and videos won’t load at all.

    Maru in coat … ::diez of teh cute::

  40. RE: Kim

    I have GIMP, which works just as well for me, but my handwriting is actually a little WORSE digitally than it is by hand. (Don’t ask me why, I don’t know.) I’ll probably reink as many of them by hand as I can; it’s rougher but right now takes much less time.

    RE: Argenti

    I don’t really have good access to a printer, so I might just Xerox the old strips and ink by hand over it, then fix it up digitally.

    Regardless, wooooo comic! :D (Even though it has nothing to do with kitties, MRAs, or other Manboobzer pastimes.)

  41. Yes, we should all get together and buy a freezing garret and sing songs from Rent.

  42. Hey, hey, hey guyze, have you heard? Adobe made Creative Suite 2 free to download! All you have to do is sign up, I don’t know how badly they’ll bug you to shell out for CS6.

    I am assured by my mother’s employer’s tech guy* that this is 100% legit.

    *yeah, I know, a ringing endorsement.

  43. I have GIMP, which works just as well for me, but my handwriting is actually a little WORSE digitally than it is by hand. (Don’t ask me why, I don’t know.)

    I think it’s coefficients of friction. Any physical medium is actually transferring material from one object to another, so it necessarily has a rather high degree of friction, whereas if you’re using a tablet, there’s practically no friction. So one’s digital handwriting tends to be looser and sloppier because the amount of force you’re used to using causes the stylus to move more. And of course a mouse is an entirely different sort of motion.

  44. @katz- As long as Taye Diggs can be our long suffering landlord, because RAWR.

  45. I also find I have to hold my tablet at a certain angle to fit it on my keyboard drawer, and it’s not necessarily the same angle I would hold a piece of paper.

  46. Only time I’ve tried drawing via computer was the JohntheOtter pic, which isn’t really how I’d like my normal drawing to turn out! :D

  47. Still not sure how someone can have that much naked contempt for women and simultaneously declare that feminists are whining about “imaginary enemies”. It really ought to hurt to be that oblivious.

  48. katz, katz, I have an important question! Is Poutine scratching the couch in the first pic or is she just getting ready to jump up? I read it as her having a scritch-up first, which would be totally appropriate because she has a scratching post she’s ignoring.

  49. Also, “Many Too Small Boxes” is my favorite Maru video. Here, have a longer version of that .gif: http://s53.beta.photobucket.com/user/Estrella84Azul/media/Emergency%20Cute/Maruinabox-1.gif.html?sort=3&o=7 (I don’t know how to embed images, sorry)

  50. I don’t know if we can embed pics.

    Here’s a Maru I haven’t seen before.

  51. Oh pox, how did that happen? That’s not what I was trying to embed!

    Try again:

  52. Poutine is trying to jump up, I think.

  53. @Falconer

    Hey, hey, hey guyze, have you heard? Adobe made Creative Suite 2 free to download! All you have to do is sign up, I don’t know how badly they’ll bug you to shell out for CS6.

    I had heard of this but sadly it is in fact not the case, as you can see from Adobe’s blog:
    http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2013/01/update-on-cs2-and-acrobat-7-activation-servers.html

    The downloads and serial numbers are because the activation servers for CS2 have been disabled and people who had bought CS2 previously would be unable to reinstall it.

  54. Argenti Aertheri

    “Even though it has nothing to do with kitties, MRAs, or other Manboobzer pastimes.”

    Still awesome! And xerox would work the same I imagine, I’m just the sort of geek for whom a printer is Not Optional

  55. I’m the sort of not-geek who’s very grateful to have a printer - it’d cost a fortune printing photos otherwise! :D

  56. @Myoo — I has a sad now :(

    Oh, well.

  57. -_- Urrrrgh. Have discovered that inking by hand doesn’t scan well. Which is really frustrating, since I draw by hand on the floor on my hands and knees, which is much better for my back.

    Dammit, I have ninety plus strips! Why I can’t I just magically, instantly transport them to the internet without wanting to beat the wall with my forehead?

  58. LBT, probably a silly idea, but would it work to scan the pics and then bump up the contrast just to make them clearer? I know it’s not at all the same as inking, but I’ve had some good results that way myself with drawings.

  59. Assuming that crocheting on a little hook with beads is kind of similar in posture to drawing, does anyone have any hints for stopping muscle ache? My old RSI is catching up to me, plus I’m also getting shoulder pain. I have already figured out I need magnification and better light. I was wondering if raising my working surface would be a good idea - I’ve been using a spare space on the computer desk and have been hunched over. Sadly, I can’t do anything about the ageing process… grrr….

    I will be having an ibruprofen + codeine evening tonight (oh Nurofen plus, how I love thee at times like this).

  60. The main thing you need to do is REST. If it’s bad enough to be taking anti-inflammatories, you need to take a serious break from it. Stop doing the repetitive movements causing it (I’ve had RSI forever, from much the same causes - drawing, sewing). I know that’s not what one wants to hear when on a project but it really is the most important thing.

    But definitely improving your posture and lighting will help when you are working. The magnification should, too, so you won’t automatically hunch to see better.

  61. @Kitteh, thanks for the tips. I’ve been working on this: http://www.beadseast.com/beads/grapesboa.html and I got one side of the grapes done. It’s worked in 4 sections, left and right sides are the sames, the picots and leaves are sections 3 and 4, overworked on the grapes (sections 1 and 2). There’s 104 beads in each grape. Finding a place to stop has been challenging.

  62. WHOAMYGOD that is beautiful!

    Now just pace yourself, y’hear me? ::peers over glasses, wags admonitory finger::

  63. @Myoo: Like, from way back in the thread, hee hee hee, that was fab. :)

  64. RE: Kittehs

    Unfortunately, the paper’s too crappy; what you saw WAS with the contrast amped to the max.

    As it is, I’m just getting on better terms with my pens.

  65. LBT, what materials are you using? I’ve always found that inked drawings scan much better than pencils. (You can also trace onto better paper while you’re inking, although I know you don’t have infinite materials at your disposal.)

  66. LBT, rats!

    Is the paper too thin to scan well? I’m trying to think of ways to work on it that don’t cost anything, though you’ve probably been there and done that long since. In terms of the program I use - which is a lot less sophisticated than Gimp - I’d be pushing the midtones and highlights up and the shadows down. Other than that, I’m stumped too.

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