Men’s Rights Redditors Weigh in on Sexbots, Railroad Monopolies, and Why Women Are Terrible
You could always make your own.
Oh dear. Our friends the Men’s Rights Redditors have discovered Mr.Ian Ironwood’s little treatise on sexbots. While some are a bit skeptical about the reality of the (non-existent) Human-Robot Personal Relationship Act — more skeptical, anyway, than Ironwood or Vox Day before him — this doesn’t stop the regulars from offering all sorts of distressing and/or hilarious opinions on the subject.
For example, OuiCrudites suggests that women have made sexbots inevitable by generally being such a pain in the ass, and MaunaLoona compares female sexuality to the railroad monopolies of the 19th century:
In a later comment, OuiC elaborates on his “most women are shitty” thesis:
MaunaLoona, meanwhile, agrees with Ironwood that developing the AI for sexbots won’t be a big challenge, because the average American woman is dumb and has a terrible personality.
A Canadian Redditor steps in to point out that the alleged “legislation” isn’t real. Oh, and to suggest that many “females” can’t think rationally.
Geigerwasright concludes that men will find sexbots preferable to women because the women of today aren’t providing them with “love, loyalty [or] kindness.”
So watch out, ladies! Unless you clean up your act, and quick, the good men of the Men’s Rights subreddit will abandon you en masse in favor of sex with inanimate objects that pretend to like them.
And this is apparently supposed to be a bad thing for women.
Clauderoughly postulates that sexbots for women will never be that popular, because what women really want is to get pregnant, so they can live the good life off of child support:
That’s a bit weird, as all the women I’ve had sex with have seemed quite interested not getting pregnant from sex. Indeed, some have had devices inserted into their bodies by doctors to prevent such an occurence.
The world that MRAs live in is a strange and scary place. I prefer the real world. It’s much cheerier.
NOTE: The horrible picture at the top of this post was borrowed from Craftastrophe.
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Posted on January 17, 2013, in antifeminism, evil women, I'm totally being sarcastic, men who should not ever be with women ever, misogyny, MRA, oppressed men, playing the victim, reddit, sexy robot ladies and tagged antifeminism, men's rights, misogyny, MRA, reddit, sexbots. Bookmark the permalink. 198 Comments.
Historophilia: Heh. As a Yorkshire lad currently in Cambridge, I can tell you that the North doesn’t have a monopoly on cold weather. I genuinely believe that meterology essentially means my current weather is imported from Siberia.
We’re actually having lovely weather over here. A warm, dry wind off the mountains (we call them Chinooks) blew in on the weekend and hasn’t left yet, which means it’s been consistently above freezing all week. It even reached 8C one day! Not bad for January!
The roads are dry, which is lovely. Sidewalks are covered in black ice though.
I’ll complain a lot about the cold when it comes in, but what really defines the weather here is its huge swings in temperature. It is not terribly unusual to be at -25 one day and then 0 degrees two days later.
@MorkaisChosen, lovely! And in Cambridge you get lots of nice fog off the fens as well don’t you?
It does happen sometimes, but it seems to be way too cold for that a lot of the time.
I can see you asking, why? Why am I holding the city hostage? Well, sit back and relax (sorry, are those ropes too tight?) and I’ll tell you.
It all started about fifteen years ago. I was at college, just a kid who didn’t know how ignorant he was. We’d had an ice storm, and it left the campus just glazed, like a delicate glass sculpture. People were slipping all over the place, though.
So it passed a day in the gray clouds, and the ice melted a bit, but it wasn’t gone. Me and my dumb friends decided to walk to the students’ club on the edge of campus. It was slightly downhill, but as the Russians say, we would walk carefully.
We were walking along, talking of airy nothings, and suddenly my feet flew right out from under me and I landed plop! on my butt. I banged my elbows and the back of my head, too, but I wasn’t really hurt. My friends just kept walking, though, they hadn’t even noticed! By the time I struggled to my feet, they were way ahead and I couldn’t catch up without going too fast for comfort.
So that’s why. That’s why you’re tied to this giant red rocket. That’s why the city’s going to go boom if I don’t get what I want. It’s a simple request. Why can’t I get. Three. Thousand. GERBILS!!
I hope the cold lasts until I get to England next week. I want to see actual chilly weather since Arizona just has the half assed 28 degrees F for two days a year.
@PrincessBonbon, it probably will, this is the start of the coldest time of year in the UK, it’ll probably only get colder.
Where in England are you going to?
First week is London (I am arriving on the 25th and fly out on the 10th.)
Second week is in Cornwall.
Yay for airline miles and timeshares!
Unfortunately I was not able to find someone who could take the first week of February off to drive me and my friend around so now I have drive on those itty bitty roads.
That is quite possibly the most accurate description of MRA mentality that I have ever heard.
@PrincessBonBon
Get a GPS with your car. We took a family holiday to Cornwall once and due to the AA map not having every tiny road on it, we got hopelessly lost and had to ask someone for directions.
Cornwall accents can get very thick, so it was rather difficult to get un-lost.
… That’s a slight exaggeration, but you get the picture…
I do have a GPS already so unless they built all new highways in the past year, I should be good for getting around…until I have to drive because those roads are too bloody small.
Yay for London! That’s my home town
You’ve not picked the best time of year weather wise but it’ll mean that you’ll only have to contend with locals and not hoards of tourists as you do around Christmas and in the summer.
What are you going to do while there?
Also, beware of GPS, sometimes it is stupid.
Mostly that applies to truck drivers - there are roads in rural areas with signs saying things like “HGV DRIVERS- Turn off your GPS now!” because the GPS calculates “Aha, shortcut!” not realising that it’s literally impossible to get the truck it’s guiding down that road…
Problem is that there are specific GPS for HGVs but they cost more. So some HGV drivers use the cheaper ordinary GPS with obvious consequences - the church wall in our village is regularly demolished by HGVs trying to manoeuvre round an impossible corner.
This is the possible plan:
Friday-British Museum
Saturday-Westminster Palace/Abbey/UK Supreme Court
Sunday-Tower
Monday-Eye/Whitehall/Old Vic
Tuesday-Harrods/Ghost Bus Tour
Wednesday-Imperial War Museum, Churchill War Rooms/Madam Toussauds
Thursday-Hampton Court
Friday-British Museum if need be or something else
It depends on me getting any sleep whatsoever on the flight out. Since I cannot sleep sitting up, that may be a problem.
And I picked that time because the tourists are a lot less than say during summer when all of Arizona decamps for some place better tempered.
We probably will go see Stonehenge (second time for me), Berry Promery Castle, Roman Baths, and Old Sarum.
I want to go to Dartmoor at night because oooh scary! But not sure if that can happen since I am not a fan of driving on long winding one laned roads at night.
@PrincessBonBon
The geology section of the National History museum. And Old Sarum is cool.
I was literally about to suggest going to the Natural History Museum! Dinosaurs! Yay!
That might be an option for the Friday, or I also suggest Camden Market.
I also suggest that you try to catch a show or play, London is the Theatre capital of the world.
If you like musicals then I’ve heard really good things about Matilda, or if you prefer traditional theatre then try something at the National Theatre on the Southbank.
In fact taking a trip to the Southbank is generally something I reccomend, go at night and it’s gorgeous.
A big reason why women, and particularly the most ardent, androphobic feminists will never support any kind of ban on sexbots is the simple fact that sex toys are not exclusively for men! Not even robots. I have no doubt that sooner or later there will be “studbots”: Male robots likened in the image of men but programmed to relate to wimminz physical and emotional needs and capable of reading wimminz hearts and minds unlike any human male. Of course there will be “femmebots” for the menz which fulfill the same function. I say that once men and women no longer depend on each other for their sexual and emotional needs, the 2 sexes will get along better as fellow humans.
We are going to go to some overpriced placed called Simpson on the Strand or something and see Mousetrap.
I call it overpriced because I am only ordering off the side menu.
PrincessBonBon - Thirding Nat. History Museum and the South bank. Dinosaurs! And the Science Museum is right close to the NHM too. Sadly, I don’t think they have any sexbots, but there may be regular robots if you go in for that.
@Viscaria
>(we call them Chinooks)
I thought that was something Derib had made up. The things you learn about comics you like…
Chinooks are a thing.
Specifically, it’s a jet of high pressure warm air from the Pacific filtering though the Rocky Mountains which hits Calgary, Alberta, but can be felt as far north as Edmonton.
I think it gets used to replace the phrase “Indian Summer” in some areas, even if it’s not technically the same thing
Does the museum have a full size Tyrannosaurus Rex? Cuz that is what I am going to go see when I get back up to Chicago one of these days.
Skeleton, no - but it does have a nice Diplodocus. I think it has an animatronic T rex though!
The Wildlife Photographer of the Year exhibition is also on there atm I think.
My local museum has a full size T rex. Big teeth 0_o
I think the animatronic T-rex in the NHM is full sized, or close enough anyway.
And it’s got a full sized skeleton of one of course, lots of full sized skeletons.
I have missed so much while my ‘net was down last night!
@princessbonbon - LONDON! Twenty years since I was there but love that city. And the Tower! If you make it there, keep an eye out for a painting of a young man wearing gold armour and sitting on a heap of weapons. It’s Mr K when he was about twenty. They have some of his guns on display (or did when I was there, anyway).
If you’re into art and the decorative arts, the Victoria and Albert Museum (in the South Kensington museum complex aka Albertopolis)* is the. best. evah. Their costume and jewellery collections alone are to die for.
Hope your whole England trip is wonderful.
@Xanthe - Geelong fan! ::dies::
@deezers - “I just actually properly imagined myself making sweet sweet love to a robot, and the only thing that went thorough my imaginary-sexing-mind was “this is a robot this is a robot this is a robot…” THIS. Maybe these guys really can’t conceive that other people are, y’know, alive, so the idea of a robot doesn’t matter? Or maybe the physical intimacy, as in proximity, is all they think about? They claim they want love but they really seem incapable of feeling it, or they’d never have these ideas.
*trivia: the whole South Kens museum area grew from investing the profits of the Great Exhibtion in 1851. HUGE debt to Prince Albert for the whole idea.
And why do you say that, Demarcq?
The US NHM in DC didn’t have an animatronic T. rex when I was there in 2010
Dinos are AWESOME.
cloudiah - sounds like demarq thinks squandering millions of dollars/euros/whatever on developing luxury items is a much better idea than simply learning to, I dunno, communicate with someone of the opposite sex. Because the latter is just so haaard.
Does Demarcq strike anyone as sounding very familiar?
As for T-Rex, Carnegie Museum of Natural History has two, posed as if in battle (I got to go to the private opening of the exhibit, awesome doesn’t begin to cover it). You can watch the process of moving the beasts — http://www.carnegiemnh.org/online/dinosaurs/archive-rex.html
Hit Phipps Conservstory while near Carnegie, and take a day to trek out to the Science Museum and Warhol Museum. Fallingwater is about an hour away, and you have to drive out, but worth it if you can get there.
/Pittsburgh travel guide (Sree’s is excellent Indian food!)
Demarq’s whole “communication is too difficult, I want a robot” shit is what all of them seem to be trotting out, so they’re blurring a bit for me. Who does zie remind you of?
Oooh I just had the best image - MRA orders sexbot, the orders get mixed up and he’s delivered a Rexbot.
Chinooks are the greatest! Except that they trigger migraines, which isn’t great.
Damarcq:
I’m just highlighting this as the most absurd part of your little story. Because who can even understand women, am I right? Also men want sex bots for sex, women want sex bots for listening. Of course!
Okay, I’m off to see War Horse at the theatre - not robots, but the most awesome puppets! Catch up later.
Ooh, have fun Kittehs’!
Have fun kitteh!
And idk, maybe Demarcq does just remind me of ALL THE SEXBOT TROLLS because I can’t place it.
I love London. London, Toronto and San Francisco are my 3 favorite cities. I felt totally at home in them all (okay maybe not in the Tenderloin in SF that one time, but you get the idea). I know they’re totally cheesy but I’m a big fan of ghost tours while on vacation. I went on one in Scotland that scared me shitless, and one in New Orleans while a thunderstorm was going on that was awesome. London must have some great ghosts. We heard a number of ghost stories at the Tower, but we were there in the middle of the day.
I had a shitty day, I’m going to go watch Jeremy Renner kill people while I eat chocolate.
I have a picture of it probably, I took pictures of every single thing and wall and stone and everything in there.
I am tempted to do two tours of ghostown while there but maybe not, I have to think of the other person.
drst, I am sorry about your shitty day and I endorse your recovery program.
For our birthday, Sneak’s carting us out to a trampoline park and throwing a party. Normally, I prefer to ignore all holidays, because they give me gripe, but I have to admit, the trampoline park does sound pretty fun.
Also, demarcq really doesn’t understand how humans, or robots, or programming works. Studs aren’t called studs for LISTENING.
@LBT yeah, they are vertical and hold up walls panels, that’s why they’re studs and not dwangs.
princessbonbon, this is the pic:
or if that link doesn’t work, try this one: http://s229.beta.photobucket.com/user/LouisLouise/media/LouisbyEgmont_zpscfc17cc1.jpg.html
War Horse was superb! I enjoyed the film but it was dripping with Spielberg sentiment, and the play wasn’t. It was spare, no sets, but wonderful lighting and sound effects for the Somme scenes. And the horse puppets were amazing.
Oh, and Simpson’s in the Strand is a restaurant famous since about 1850 for its roast beef.
Kitteh — embedding pics doesn’t work, and that’s probably a good thing given at least one troll was banned/perma-modded after posting graphic? Bloody? images, not sure as I only saw it after David censored it, but yeah, we don’t want the assholes pulling that.
In cheerier things, is that Louis in mismatched breeches? stockings? Why is one striped and one leather or similar? (Nice stripes!)
Ah, just as well indeed!
Yes, that’s Louis (the pic in the Tower Armouries, who have a few of his guns on display - he was the first serious collector in the world, or at least the Western world). The leather is the top of his boot, and the stripes are the boot-stocking - the other boot leg is folded down, showing the red lining in the full pic.
@Kitteh: the play sounds great. I’m avoiding the movie because it’s a war movie and also I particularly hate seeing anything where animals get hurt/killed.
So do I, Kiwi girl. It isn’t too graphic in the film, iirc (Mum wants to watch it again tonight to compare with the play!). The way they staged it was even more effective, though. Things like riders being killed in a charge were represented by the actors simply being carried off in a standing position as if they were floating backward from the horses. There was no attempt to hide the people carrying them, but it got the message across every bit as gut-wrenchingly as a “naturalistic” film version could.
“Can we put him in another fucking cell, please!” OMG, love the videos! Thanks for the laughs!
I am continually confused by the way some MRAs talk about these things in public as though their ideas are in any way in accordance with reality.
Ah, but they haven’t the self-awareness to know their fantasies are just that.
Oh? And why is that? *raises eyebrow*
Well duh…..But if these robots are sentient then they can also listen to, talk with, and understand the mind of their partners. Why not have a robot than can relate to you as well as being good in bed?
But I wouldn’t worry too much about this as machine sentience is still pretty far off(not possible with current computer technology) and sexbots are still quite primitive and aren’t able to emulate many of the movements the human body is capable of. They also very lifelike to the touch.
I put my hand up for programming said sexbots as I don’t think the mind of an MRA is that hard to understand, and I will be able to efficiently code the talk/behaviour trees.
Dude, the sexbot isn’t going to *relate* to you. The sexbot will be as good as its programming. But its all just code, in response to stimulus.
Also, I don’t think you actually want sentience. Sentience means that the sexbot will be self-aware, capable of learning by itself, developing its code. It may develop ways that you won’t like. In which case, you’ll want it reprogrammed back to the way it was - and that is an ethical issue because of its sentience.
I don’t think these guys understand what words like “relate”, “relationship”, and “understand” mean in a context in which women are considered people.
The one aspect of all of this that makes me nervous is that their idea of the perfect sexrobot comes very close to a lobotomized woman.
I’m none too sure these guys know what the word people means, or sentience, for that matter. We can see they don’t think women are people, but I wonder how much they treat other men as people in daily life, too.