Homophobia totally the fault of straight women, according to Men’s Rights Redditors

Men forced into macho straightjacked by straight women's expectations, out cruising for chicks.

Men forced into hypermasculine role by straight women, out cruising for chicks.

So we learned the other day from that Man Going His Own Way that male violence was, like, totally the fault of evil sexy ladies. Now, from this Men’s Rights Redditor, we learn that homophobia — or at least homophobia directed at gay men — is all the fault of straight women and their desire for macho dudes. Because straight men don’t ever express any sort of hostility towards gay or effeminate men — it’s just those darn ladies!

I've said this many times in different circumstances, but I fully believe the push for hyper-masculinity is not caused by a desire to prove masculinity to ones peers or caused by some latent homophobia. The cause of hyper-masculinity and its associated homophobic undertones is caused by straight women and what they as a group have deemed "totally unacceptable" in a mate.  Appearing gay (I'm gay) has never really caused me any heartache within a group of men. Even if those men don't know I'm gay and just think I'm an effeminate weirdo. In mixed groups of men and women, it has. I think it stems from female judgement of men who aren't "masculine enough" to be inferior for relationships, men pick up on it and boost up the masculinity and inter-male aggression/intolerance of behaviors not considered normal.  It also comes from widespread female intolerance of any sort of homosexual or "appearing homosexual" behavior in potential mates, an intolerance which isn't found among men. Ask any straight man you know if he would dump his girlfriend/wife if he found out she had lesbian sex before they were dating. Now ask any straight woman you know if she would dump her boyfriend/husband if she found out he had gay sex before they were dating. I have asked these questions to many people. The answers have always backed up my position. I actually had a couple women tell me that they would leave their husbands if they found out that he had fooled around with a guy as young as highschool.
But, huh, what about all those straight dudes who are always calling other dudes “gay” and, you know, that other word that starts with an “f?”

Well, apparently that’s just playful joshing. No harm, no foul! If anything, it shows how wonderfully tolerant of gayness these guys are. I mean, come on, if you can’t see this, you must be stupid, or something. Or so says this other Men’s Rights Redditor:

It takes some advanced cognitive ability to comprehend why most men tease one another for being gay. It has little to do with homosexuality, real or perceived. It is about acceptance. It is also about challenging perception. When one man calls his friend "gay", he is playfully asserting his own dominance over his friend. He is also insinuating not only that he would still accept and love his friend, but also that he recognizes that everyone's at least a little gay, and that they have both grown out of any childish notions of homosexuality being bad and thereby being hurt by being called "gay". They are sharing a bonding experience of mutual acceptance, playfulness, and even affection through this social ritual. One could even suggest that faux male gay shaming is a method of expressing homosexuality in a manner that rates low enough on the kinsey scale to suit their comfort.  Or we could just take it at face value and refuse to explore the psychodynamic behind the process. It seems more convenient when obtuseness is a preferred weapon.

They’re just having a little fun. You’re not against fun, are you?

Thanks to the AgainstMen’sRights subreddit for pointing me to these quotes.

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Posted on June 3, 2013, in a woman is always to blame, crackpottery, evil sexy ladies, evil women, homophobia, I'm totally being sarcastic, masculinity, misogyny, MRA, reddit, whaaaaa? and tagged , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 498 Comments.

  1. katz: much more kick-ass. :)

  2. @CassandraSays: Nope, not my ex, although I think I know the guy you’re talking about and what happened to make him so… eccentric.

    @Pecunium: I was in a combined artillery battallion in the Czech Land Forces. I don’t like to talk about it much online, as I’m very easily findable online, with a little information.

  3. Nova: I understand. No worries, it’s why I qualified my question.

  4. @Pecunium: Thanks for understanding. It’s incredible what you can find out, just with someone’s full name, or even an often used handle :shudders:

    @kittehserf: It’s funnier in person, LOL. My other ferrets don’t molt nearly as much, so it was surprising. The fur on his head, legs and tail are normal, but his back and belly lost all of the brown guard hairs and are covered in soft white peachfuzzy stuff. One day, my little PUF was chocolate brown and now dude’s practically naked.

  5. It’s even funnier being a ferret, my mind defaulted to cat! :D

  6. @kittehserf: With the amount of hair that little stinker spread all over my HUGE house (all 500sqft of it,) youd think that he was a cat or a medium sized dog. I’m ever thankful that my big bulldog ferret doesn’t molt like that or it’d be like the popcorn scene in Real Genius.

  7. @Maude LL

    I bet he doesn’t know that most free shelters don’t accept women either, because they have serious problems with rape. That’s why we have women’s shelters, the ‘normal’ shelters are for men. Same for soup kitchens. They accept women in soup kitchens, but sexual harassment (including touching) is the norm for women who eat there.

    Oh :( Faith in humanity lowering some more…

  8. RE: Amnesia

    I’ve been skidding on the unstable housing rails for a while. Right now, I have a room, for a little while anyway, but would you be willing to talk with me about your experience with the shelter system? Seeing as I’m likely to end up there, I’d like to know more about it.

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