Red Pill Redditor on Women: “I dont need some self warming fleshlight sapping up my hard earned resources.”
Some thoughts on divorce from a delightful, and recently divorced, Red Pill Redditor by the name of vengefully_yours. (Divorced? Yes, that’s right, ladies: he’s available!)
![vengefully_yours 36 points 1 day ago (57|21) I have been divorced a month now, and I timed buying some land for about a month after it would be final so I could close on it today and her name is nowhere on it. Its mine. No trollop nor cheating whore will be able to wrest it from me by taking off to fuck some other guy. I will never again marry, and most likely never tell a woman I am not blood related to that I love her. This is my life, and I am living it how I see fit. I do what I want, when I want to do it, and no female has any say in how I go about it. Its not as if my ex wives had any say what I did anyway, but now I dont have to listen to them bitch that I am spending more money on cars than I am on them. Fuck yes I am free, and you're damn right I dont need some self warming fleshlight sapping up my hard earned resources. That might sound like I hate women, I dont. I love and adore them, but damn you just cant trust them. permalink source give gold save hide child comments [–]Cyralea 24 points 1 day ago (38|14) This is RP shining true. Don't hate women. They are what they are. Trusting them makes you the idiot, not them.](../../../../2013/10/selfwarmingfleshlight_w-604.png)
I’m glad he clarified that he doesn’t hate women, because some people (you know, manginas and feminazis) might have jumped to conclusions based on, you know, reading his comment and understanding his words.
Thanks to maniacalnewworld in the Blue Pill subreddit for finding this golden nugget in the shitheap.
Posted on October 10, 2013, in divorce, dozens of upvotes, evil women, female beep boop, gloating, irony alert, men who should not ever be with women ever, misogyny, oppressed men, red pill, reddit, sexualization and tagged misogyny, red pill, reddit. Bookmark the permalink. 129 Comments.
Isn’t it basically like subject and object in a sentence? The subject acts and the object is acted upon. So agency is a big part of it.
Am caught up. Am confused. Am going to sit and stare in bewilderment.
*wanders back*
Ok, so OP wants a fleshlight instead of a woman, cool, one less asshole for women to worry about! But this is because he got his heart broken and thus all women are EBIL? Not just, you know, that one? Cuz even when I’ve sworn off dating (cis) men (other categories of ex lovers seem to lack this problem) because I’m sick of the damned entitlement complex, it’s that I just don’t feel like dealing with it, and since “everyone” else does, I’m the outlier and it’s my problem. He isn’t getting that.
I know ikea too well, and Cassandra, I suspect, knows death metal too well.
Much as I hate Rand, it is possible that her other man was cheating in the traditional sense. Poly relationships tend to have agreements on what is, and is not, acceptable. Had he been supposed to ask permission before seeing a new partner, then she’d have been right to be pissed. In practice, I doubt this applies.
Definitions are misandry. Including, but certainly not limited to, social justice ones (particularly feminist terms)
…I think that’ small my brain jumble has at present.
*that’s all
Fuck you auto-”I hate contractions”-correct.
To be fair, you could probably score high on that quiz just by going “does this sound too ridiculous to be an IKEA product? must be a black metal band then”.
(Please remember that I am not a virgin and therefore I would not make a suitable ritual sacrifice, black metal dudes.)
Well you’d think that, but you can get virginity kits now, and Satan doesn’t really check too closely…
@Fibinachi
Hehe…point taken
@Brooked
Yeah, meritocracy is one of those things that make perfect sense and what we should implement, but then there’s that little tiny problem of oppression and discrimination that MRAs like to pretend never existed. Of course women who have the ability to be in STEM should have that chance, but yes, lets continue telling women that they aren’t interested in it or their biology isn’t cut for it,etc…that will really help >_>
Also I did not know the affirmative action debate went on that long.
@Athywren
Which reminds me, they are concerned about young men lagging behind in post secondary education. Well If I was guy who just graduated highschool, you know what would make me not want to go to college? hearing MRAs talk about how its a bastion of evil liberal feminazi professors and drunken college sluts just waiting for the chance to falsely accuse me of rape, and then having the school decide whether I’m guilty or not. Yep, that really makes me want to get a college or uni education.
@Kim
I heard that before somewhere too…makes sense.
You also gotta love their excuse “men’s biology makes them objectify women, it’s just nature!” it’s their excuse for everything these days, anyone else notice that?
I know I’m not the only person out there who thinks its possible to find someone sexually attractive and still care about them as a person, and not as a fucking fleshlight, even if its on a very simple level…for example: “hey I like wasting ridiculous amounts of time on the internet too! wanna fuck? ok *20 mins later*…oh you’re leaving for Iceland tomorrow? well it was nice briefly getting to know you/fucking, take care”
Something like that.
Hopefully I’ve been making sense, I haven’t slept, I should probably do that.
I only got a 13 out of 20. My Swedish ancestors would weep with shame!
I’ll be over here with Argenti in the “caught up and WTF” corner.
“Self warming fleshlight.” I…guess I learned a new term today.
To the extent that warmth correlates with arousal I suspect that he may encounter some problems.
(In addition to the whole not realizing that women are people thing.)
See, that’s what I was kinda trying to do, and I got 12/20.
What I don’t understand about all these “empowered man not getting married no more - goin’ his own way” posts is that I don’t know why the men who post them think women care? If they don’t ever want to have sex with women or associate with them ever again, that’s cool and everything. To each their own. But are they expecting the ladies to immediately cry and beg them to continue trying to fuck and marry them? Why do they insist on the subtext of their posts reading like a punishment to all the women who COULD have had them?
Or maybe they just want to be congratulated by their buddies for making their wise decision and I’m reading the subtext all wrong.
I got 14/20, and I don’t know jack about death metal.
Although come to think of it the lesson of that quiz is only “Scandinavian words all sound the same to non-Scandinavians”.
Because opposing the (male) right to
rape womenget the sex they so desperately neeeeeeed is oppression, of course.There is a radio ad that airs in the Baltimore market that pisses me off so much from Cordell and Cordell. It goes on about protecting assets and providing for kids. To me, it comes across as screwing the woman who decided she couldn’t stand your ass anymore.
Don’t take it personally. Ikea are just pissed off ‘cos Pierre doesn’t work there anymore.
I am pleased to hear that yet another man, after several failures, has given up the search for a woman who will tolerate his abuse.
Yeah, I’m pretty sure it’s the age-old male bonding ritual of complaining about women. As far as I can tell, that’s the entire point of MGTOW.
Cassandra — poäng, that’s all I’m saying on that. …besides that they make a $30 kid’s one that I want cuz I have a scrawny ass and fit in it and no one will ever steal my seat again!
@acrannymint: Ugh, them. I used to hear their commercials every day on the way to work, and I always wondered if it was legal to only offer legal services to men. Forgive me, I’ve never been up on the law, really, but it almost seemed like they were running their commercial on the idea that “women were never reliable partners in life, but WE are!”
@emilygoddess: I suppose I should know better, given how many times I’ve seen that old shtick on television of dudes talking about how awful their wives/girlfriends/fuck buddies are. I think I actually went up to my father as a kid and asked him if wives were really so horrible that you have to have a “man-cave” to escape them all the time why men married them in the first place.
His answer was to look like I’d kicked him in the stomach.
I own a poang chair! Or rather, the cat does, since she’s the only one who ever sits in it. It seems to be proportioned for someone considerably taller than me - headrest is in the wrong place.
..And when I went to double-check if the chair I have is the poang Google gave me this as a result.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1427273_Anybody_have_an_Ikea_PO_NG_chair_.html
The world is totes full of misandry and men are forced to silence their sexy sexual thoughts all the time! Which is why dudes feel comfortable posting something like that in a random public forum.
Somehow that seems like the kind of thing I’d expect to see on an NRA website.
That chair looks way uncomfortable to me - too high in the back, like the headrest would just push my head forward instead of supporting my neck, and sloping too much in the seat, so it would put pressure on my hips and not support my back at all.
Mind you, the sloping seat would be useful so that kitties wouldn’t slide off one’s legs while getting lap time.
“men’s biology makes them objectify women, it’s just nature!” it’s their excuse for everything these days, anyone else notice that?”
Variations of that has *always* been their excuse. What I find interesting is that when this, that, or the other objectionable behavior is asserted as being women’s nature, it’s presented as something that women should transcend, whereas, men’s is presented as something that must be accommodated.
It’s interesting how the OP twists himself to simultaneously complain about how horrible they are and all the awful things he’s had to endure and too claim that he is too clever/manly to ever be taken advantage of or be influenced in any way by a woman, and yet to
eumenedis - exactly. Whether it’s that men are Naturally Logical/Rational or Naturally Rapists or whatever, they are never culpable, despite all the claims about men being so moral.
Women are culpable whatever we do, whether it’s nature we apparently should transcend (but can’t/won’t) or whether it’s because we’re conniving-yet-stupid b*tches.
MRAs in short: women are wrong and should be punished.
Me, too! I find that I am always encouraged when another asshole swears off long-term pair bonding. I only hope that every girl he hits on has the good sense to summarily reject him for even the briefest of encounters.
kittehserf - And men are always sacrosanct, so work harder ladies so that you can take the burden of all of the blame in the world!
I picture their encounters going something like this.
MRA : Hey! Hey you! Why were you ignoring me?
Woman : Excuse me?
MRA : That’s just like a woman, to not even notice a good, honest man trying to get her attention.
Woman : Wait, were you the one who wolf-whistled just now?
MRA : Indeed I was. Want a piece of this, baby? It will almost make your miserable life worthwhile, at least until you hit 27. Bear in mind that you’re already past your prime.
Woman : This is a joke, right?
MRA : What? Are you laughing at me? ARE YOU?
Woman : Oh, look, there’s my bus. Bye.
MRA : You think you can just walk away from me? Fuck you, you entitled bitch! I don’t need you! I’m going my own way!
Woman, as she gets on the bus : Whatever, dude.
MRA : (Continues screaming at the bus as it pulls away)
Now if there was a second guy involved, that would be a Pierre comic … does Pierre have a sister? The woman reads like him.
Aaaaand now I’ve got headcanon that Pierre has a sister or maybe an alternative-universe-self and her name is Pirouette. Which is stupid and I apologize profusely but that’s where my brain went.
Could I make that up? No, no I couldn’t.
As horrible as Ayn Rand was, I’m in complete stitches over the “if you had any sense of morality you’ll be impotent for 20 years” thing. If that’s what years of dedicating your life to logic and rationality’ll get you, I’ll happily pass.
RE OP: I would say “That might sound like I hate women, but” is the MRM’s “I’m not a racist, but” if they didn’t have such dire need for the “I’m not a racist, but”.
Also, because this post doesn’t have nearly enough, have a couple more “”"”"”"”
Also, shoutout to Quackers!!! Loooongggg time, no chat! Hope all is good.
@CassandraSays: That was hilarious…and accurate, I’m sure!
Other than that…
Boy, there isn’t anything as disingenuous as “Women are evil, putrid creatures that use men like tools…but that doesn’t mean I hate them!” - is there? Even the “I can’t stand feminism but I’m totally for equal treatment of women” claim annoys me because it’s like saying “I hate affirmative action programs but I’m totally not a racist” or “I hate market regulation but want to help the economically disadvantaged.”
That’s convenient; hating an entire ideology that’s based on rooting out gender discrimination and the various injustices/abuses that comes with it - but still somehow agreeing with it on the most superficial level. Too bad that kind of thing is always said as a clarification, as though it’s just an afterthought. Given the fact those same people never bring up the subject as much as continue disliking feminism, it’s hard to think it is in any way sincere. It’s just hypocritical bullshit to try saving face.
Via Quackers:
Yep! It’s certainly funny (not “ha ha” funny, mind you) to hear these guys disparage women for being over-emotional - yet don’t see the problem in excusing their shitty behavior on “urges.” Yeah, guys, it’s impossible for men to not turn into perverts at the sight of a woman…nevermind many men do so every day and don’t bear bizarre grudges over it, perhaps even having decent relationships with women.
It’s called “self-control” and they’re simply not capable of it, if not getting laid on command counts as some horrible crime towards them.
Every time I read something like this, I can’t help but feel really frustrated. Do these men think that only men get screwed over in relationships?! I’ve been flayed raw by a number of people in my life but still I just take it on the chin and even find a way to forgive them. I don’t think I am so exceptional, so I can’t help but think that this is nothing but willful nastiness on their part.
Also, I didn’t know much about Ayn Rand, other than that she was a terrible person and that she inspired lotsa other douche-baggery to happen…but goddamn it I really dislike her now having read that little comic. I really hate her for the way she treated her poor husband. That part of the story just about broke my heart to pieces for him.
Or, rather, they don’t want to do it (self-control, that is) and so they’re behaving like toddlers being told that they can’t do something they want to do - throwing tantrums and drumming their feet and screaming “It’s not fair!”
“No trollop, nor cheating whore will be able to wrest it from me by taking off to fuck some other guy.”
How do you obtain someone else’s land by going off to fuck someone else? Did she fuck the realtor?
Re: Objectify, confusion thereupon
The confusion is actually sort of proving the point, innit?
Okay, so the feminist says ‘look, stop treating these women like they aren’t people and are just slabs of meat?’
The MRA replies ‘but I have to see women in a sexual manner, how can you demand I don’t?’
Would you believe that it’s possible to have sexual feelings about a person without treating them reductively as only a sexual object, only an object, as an object? That it’s possible to treat other people as people and be sexual with them?
Well, of course you would believe it! You’re all in thrall of those feminist lies! Listen to the MRA hard truth: you can only really have sexual feels for non-sentient things.
Ergo, self-warming fleshlights.
Yeah… they seem to think it’s the “ooooh, boobies!” impulse that is the problem, rather than fixating upon and feeding the “ooooh, boobies!” impulse to the point where it eclipses the, “so anyway, you were telling me about your plans for your next novel? I was wondering if you’d had any further thoughts on the universality of the messiah archetype in modern fiction?” impulse. I mean, I feel fairly comfortable in admitting that I’m a fan of the general layout of the female body here, and I don’t think I’m going to get lynched for it (though I do have my boots on, just in case!) According to the logic of MRAs, I’m probably more of a misogynist than they are, since I sneakily hide my evil attractions under a thin veneer of feminism! But… somehow I don’t think I’m going to be denounced here for coming out as a human being with sexual thoughts.
I wonder how many of them really believe that their misrepresentation of objectification is correct? Is it just a sales pitch to draw those who’re ignorant of feminism into the MRM?
My theory is that the misinterpretation is deliberate, and very petty. Basically they resent having any restraints at all placed on their sexual expression, even sensible ones like “please don’t grope random women’s boobs at parties if they haven’t indicated any interest in having you do so”, so they throw a giant overreacting tantrum and insist that feminists are telling them that they can never find women attractive ever or want sex or why don’t you just go ahead and castrate me then if I’m not allowed to do whatever I want! You know, like toddlers. I always picture them stamping their little feet as they type.
Also: even at times when women did not generally work outside the home, working _inside_ the home is not exactly a cakewalk either. Especially in pre-birth control times/places, as kids are a lot of work. Also, pre-electrical household appliances housekeeping was fucking backbreaking. Also, neverending.
My paternal great-grandmother gave birth to eleven or thirteen (can’t remember) children. They were poor farmers, so her husband worked on building sites, dockside in the harbour, on larger farms et.c. She had to keep the household running, in a house with no heating or running water, a four hour drive from the Arctic Circle, and with the odd pig or cow and a bunch of chickens and the potato field and other planted land added to the workload. And her husband died when their youngest kid was about a year old. MRAs should’ve tried telling her she was a parasite, doing fluff-work. She was only five feet tall, but dammit, that woman was true steel to the badass bone.
@Athywren: Messiah archetypes in modern fiction? GODDAM MARY SUES!!!!
Ahem.
But yeah, the conflation of sexual interest of any kind with objectification just underlines the obvious; they don’t see women as people.
I got 18/20 in the IKEA/heavy metal quiz, but I cheated by knowing a little Swedish. See if Dvärghundspossen and other native speakers can beat me?
Recently I run into a Tumblr of some NZ heavy metal enthusiast who presented herself as the ridiculously over-the-top metalhead stereotype and was apparently also a fan of Finnish and Scandinavian languages. Her self-introduction went, “OLEN SYNKKÄ HERRA SAATANA!”, which is technically accurate and possibly heavy metal-conventional translation for “I am the Dark Lord Satan”, but veers in connotation into “I’m the grumpy Mr. [swearword]“.
Just doing a hit and run to say AVfM has endorsed a new website called Gynocentrism and its cultural origins, which is full of hilarious /r/badhistory.
This is my new motto. Possibly the name of my band. Definitely what you should all call me.
I got 20/20 on the IKEA or death metal quiz, but you know, it’s really no challenge for a Swede. All the names of the IKEA products are either common Swedish names or short versions of Swedish names or actual Swedish words (usually the latter).
I’ll let you in on a secret though: The letter Ö isn’t pronounced like O. The letter Ö is pronounced like the vowel sound in “work” or “search”. And the letter Ä is pronounced like the vowel sound in “fair” or “care”. (The letter Å, the third letter we have in the Swedish alphabet but not in the English one is pronounced like the vowel sound in “walk” or “fall”, but that particular one doesn’t seem popular among metal bands.) When I was a kid I always thought that bands who had Ö or Ä in their names meant for them to be pronounced that way. Like Motörhead or Mötley crüe. Honestly, I still can’t read Motörhead without unconsciously pronouncing the second vowel as the vowel in “work”.
There’s also a Russian metal band called Svartby (means Black Village in Swedish) who write all of their songs in Swedish. Although they’re not very good at the language (they possibly use Google translate a lot), so the results are sometimes pretty hilarious.
cloudiah: re: “Gynocentricism and its cultural origins.” I think it’s really cool how Eleanor of Aquitaine and her daughter Marie almost single-handedly overturned centuries of male dominance and substituted a system of female dominance in its place, all through the power of courtly love.
Of course, Chretien de Troyes and Andrea Cappellanus were probably trying to be funny and satirical when they wrote (and my source for this is long and boring):
http://sites.fas.harvard.edu/~chaucer/special/lifemann/love/ben-love.htm
A big strong knight fainting from a mere glance from his beloved? Preposterous!
And this person makes the point better than I:
http://glosswatch.com/2012/12/13/if-thats-respect-im-chretien-de-troyes/
Same here. BTW, the NZ metalhead I mentioned was also a fan of using fake umlauts/fake Scandinavian letters in English. Probably for lulz rather than dramatic effect, I assume. Poe’s law applies.
Only 11/20 so I’m just kvlt. Speaking of Rand - Hope this link comes out okay
Try again - http://paulbibeau.blogspot.com/2012/01/i-was-shitting-you-people-message-from.html#.Ulg7RBCNdnk
I love my poang chair. I also have the matching foot rest - in red. Perfect for sitting and surfing.
Murray Rothbard, an erstwhile acolyte of Rand’s, wrote a satirical one-act “morality play” entitled “Mozart Was a Red”. It’s more amusing than anything she wrote herself, which admittedly sets the bar rather low. Frank O’Connor spends most of the play asleep on a couch.
We’ve got a law firm in Chicago that uses the same overall appeals. Some of the commercials are merely annoying; others will induce outright frothrage at how skewed and twisted the underlying assumptions are.
katelisa - if we’re talking Western societies, the phenomenon of women not working outside the home has been very limited. Basically it meant those who were of the upper classes, or middle classes in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries. Earlier, you get women involved in the trades and the family businesses, and women of the peasantry have always worked outside the home, or done “not housework” in the home; it was a matter of survival. Even among the nobility, it wasn’t a case of women sittng around at home doing nothing; they were very active outside the home, at court if they were high enough up the scale, or politically involved.
Cf. The woman who is ‘above rubies’ in the Proverbs passage is clearly working her Levantine backside off, if you actually read the entire text. And she is clearly in the propertied class! One wonders what is left for her husband to do? This was before coffeehouses, after all.