Posted on October 24, 2013, in a woman is always to blame, block that metaphor, evil sexy ladies, evil single moms, imaginary oppression, men who should not ever be with women ever, MGTOW, misogyny, playing the victim, the c-word and tagged mgtow, misogyny. Bookmark the permalink. 105 Comments.
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Misogyny. I mock it.
I find a lot of it in what's called the "manosphere," a loose collection of Men's Rights, Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW), and Pickup Artist (PUA) sites. That said, there are numerous posts here that don't have anything to do with MRAs, or PUAs or any of their ilk.
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MGTOW are blaming SMGTOW (Single Mothers Going Their Own Way) for destroying life the universe and everything?
Of course they are.
Entropy, eh?
@katz I know many a useless thing.
BTW, I have a weird confession; I was lurking on your blog, and really liked one of your kitty pictures, so I saved it and made it into an obnoxious wallpaper…
http://i.imgur.com/Rgk96oZ.png
Heh, I read “wallpaper” and immediately started thinking of lileks. Just make sure you use the kitty kitty kitty pattern on the carpet, curtains, bedspread, upholstery, lampshades and soft furnishings as well, for that unity of design!
One day I will learn how to print things on fabric, and it will be kitty pillows for everyone!
Wheeee!
Oh my god.
If I had fabric like that, I could make dresses and shirts.
:O
Oh my goodness, a mewing-Violet wallpaper!
… I’m really tempted to find a pic of an all-white room and borrow your kitty wallpaper to superimpose on All The Things.
It was too cute, I had to Katz… I could just hear that little mew!
Kitteh, that would be sort of amazing.
*sniffs*
Seemed appropriate:
@alice
New feminist role model: Medusa?
@melody
I must alert my mother of this loophole.
@athywren
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Marie - Maybe? Medusa, according to Greek mythos, was punished because she was being slutty with Poseidon in Athena’s temple. Poseidon, I think, got off free (somewhat).
Quick first version of The Ultimate Kitty Decor
@alice
(tw: rape?) Supposedly, it wasn’t always a punishment. And I was mostly snarking about the ‘turning assholes to stone’ bit I quoted :/
Marie - Oh, that’s pretty cool, didn’t know that.
Sorry, brain is fried. Damn testing.
@Alice
You don’t have anything to apologize for, I should have been more clear about my snark
Are there any sources on that version of the story? It sounds overly pat to me.
@katz
pat? And I don’t know about the sources, that’s why I said supposedly :/
Like the bit about women’s shelters in ancient Greece? Was there such a thing? I’ve never heard of it and it doesn’t really seem in keeping with the general themes of Greek culture. Anyway Medusa’s head was a very common symbol on all kinds of buildings because it was apotropaic, and while apotropaic symbols are powerful, they are definitely not “empowering” in the modern sense of the word.
I just get a feeling that she wanted to construct a dichotomy of egalitarian Greece vs. patriarchal Rome and is trying to shoehorn everything into that narrative.
Got to agree there, katz - women’s shelters in Greece?
oh FSM that kitty wallpaper and the room covered in it… i can’t breath
(Marie, I hope it doesn’t feel like I’m jumping on you and your link; it’s a neat idea and it would be cool if it’s true.)
@katz
Doesn’t feel like your jumping on me too much
But I’ve already done my 2 cents of not knowing if it’s true, so I can’t really respond with much more. Um, idk. Does that make any sense?
Beautiful Kitteh!
Thank ‘ee, thank ‘ee!
::gives cloudiah air pump::
http://www.english.illinois.edu/maps/poets/a_f/bogan/medusamyth.htm
Sorta touches on it, first paragraph under “THE DISCONCERTING STRANGENESS OF THE FEMININE”
That women would wear it to ward of men, and was thus empowering in a sense, well that makes actual sense.
Reality has stone floors?
Does it also have European appliances and corian countertops?
Is it located at the corner of Bombastic Boulevard and Pretentious Lane?
Hmm… woman separates herself from the men of her society and defends herself when they come near. (I don’t recall reading about her having any victims outside of her lair?) Is dubbed a monster for a) not being pretty and b) being successful in her own defence. Is murdered for daring to stand against patriarchal norms of beauty and submissiveness.
There’s certainly a message there.
Hm, didn’t Ancient Greek not even have a word for rape? I was pretty sure I’ve read that somewhere but I’m not entirely sure…
“Hm, didn’t Ancient Greek not even have a word for rape? I was pretty sure I’ve read that somewhere but I’m not entirely sure…”
hey something I know!
There are a couple of words for rape in Koine/Hellenistic Greek, though they’re fairly euphemistic and only really refer to women as possible victims.
αρπαγη (I can’t figure out how to get the necessary accents on the Greek letters on my phone), “arpage” means abduction and implies “of a woman”, and αγωγη, or “agoge” means, among other things, “[poor] treatment [of a woman]“.
so… yeah! there are words for rape in Ancient Greek, though they do reflect a narrow view of what rape is.
TIL. Thanks kittysnide.
Kittysnide - wasn’t ‘agoge’ also what the Spartans called their supremely bent educational regimen for boys? The system of separation from biological family and training in endurance and general Spartan-ness until the age of majority is what I mean. I did not know the word was also used for rape, which is not as surprising as it is disturbing.
Robert, maybe? I know “agoge” is also sometimes translated as “education” instead of “treatment”. I don’t know if it has the same negative connotations as it does when it’s translated as “treatment”. And maybe there’s different usage outside of Koine Greek, which is the Greek that I study. There’s plenty of overlap between Koine and Classical Greek, but some interesting differences as well.