What you’ll say to yourself if you don’t read my piece right away
I‘ve got a nice long review essay on Michael Kimmel’s new book Angry White Men: American Masculinity at the End of an Era up at the American Prospect. Check it out!
Posted on November 20, 2013, in announcements, misogyny, MRA and tagged angry white men, men's rights, misogyny, MRA. Bookmark the permalink. 157 Comments.
Misogyny. I mock it.
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I’m aware that “they” has been used as a gender-neutral singular pronoun for years. It’s how I use it on academic papers (because I’m not sure if my professor would accept zie/zir/zirs). So I’m accustomed to using it as such. *shrug*
Of course, if people request me not to use it, I’ll honor that request. So don’t worry talacaris, I’ll try to remember to use zie/zir/zirs instead of they/them/theirs.
He does. I reckon she’d do it if she could, and the fancy took her.
Yeah, talacaris, if you prefer ze, by all means! I’ve just only seen it used in singlet style.
All cats could.
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I’m quite partial to the singular “they”, myself; even Shakespeare and Jane Austen have used it, and the English major in me likes the fact that a commonly used non-gender-specific term has such a long (if unofficial) history. (I’m guessing that use was not so uncommon even then, regardless of what the prissy old “he”-purists may say.) Lots of my Facebook friends are using it, and I’ve been using it myself, casually, for as long as I can remember.
I also must admit to being confused by the whole hir/zie/ze/zir thing, partly because it’s new and not fully standardized, and partly because I keep hearing someone speaking pidgin Dutch in my head whenever I see it. I can’t help it, and I’m not proud of the fact. Gotta work on that, I guess…I hope I don’t come off as bigoted if I muff it!
BTW, does anyone recall that recent-ish news item about some high school kids who spontaneously started using “yo” as a non-gender-specific singular pronoun? I thought that was also interesting.
Oh yeah, I heard about yo ages ago.
One of the kids here uses ze/zer/zers. We know some GQ folks who would rather drop dead than be called ze, others who avoid they because of too many multi pals around, and so on. People have different preferences, and that’s okay.
Ah, the joys of the confusing English language…I kind of envy the Swedes, who were able to easily make a third-gender/nonspecific pronoun for their language. And I can’t honestly say I blame anyone currently learning ESL who’s seeing all this pronoun debate and throwing up their hands in confusion. I often do, and I’ve been speaking it all my life, and even majored in it…
I couldn’t resist.
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Serrana that is the greatest
That picture
I died
serrana - DAMN YOU AND YOUR PUNNINESS. DAMN YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!
Bwahahahahha!
Cloudiah gets most of the credit.
Serrana, you took a silly pun and you really committed to it. ::applause::
“I kind of envy the Swedes, who were able to easily make a third-gender/nonspecific pronoun for their language.”
“Hen” , which btw is a loanword from Finnish I think, is not so commonally accepted, and it has been great debate if it should be used. One common ridicule is pointing to the words meaning in English.
“Ah, the joys of the confusing English language”
I cannot see why this is more confusing in English than any other language that has traditionally used gender-specific pronouns (other than pronunciation, which is tricky in English if you’ve only seen the written form). Besides, this can make it simpler for learners whose native language doesn’t have gender-specific pronouns.
“With significantly more women than men graduating from college, this trend is not likely to reverse itself.”
It should ne noted that this is because middle-aged women are going back to school via community colleges. The Dept of Education found that boys are less likely to study, come to school prepared or do their homework, unsurprisingly this is associated with bad grades. They also found that the education disparity is income based, among middle class boys there is only about a 1% difference. Apparently boys have also improved their grades so this disproves the MRA claim that female teachers are inhibiting boys success in school. Females getting better grades than boys or having higher graduation rates is seen globally in many places like Kuwait or Iran where no one but an idiotic MRA would claim that women are oppressing men. Apparently girls getting better grades than boys isn’t new historically and in adult life this doesn’t seem to be hurting men since they still make more money.
snork,
LOL, there’s no “newbies” here. This isn’t a site where your opinions and voice are valued on seniority nor where the reining status quo has voice or authority over the newest members.