CRUSH MR. RIGHT: Is this Google’s gynocentric Valentine’s Day message?
Google, or Gynoogle?
Happy Valentine’s Day, gynocrats!.
Over on A Voice for Male Students, the always-reasonable and never-hysterical Jonathan Taylor celebrates this day of candies and flowers and irritating Kay Jewelry commercials with a lovely little piece entitled “The gynocentrism of Valentine’s Day, and the spoiled princess mentality.”
In it, he takes aim at a holiday he sees as rewarding the sort of woman who behaves like a “privileged princess who didn’t get her pony when she was five.”
His proof of this “gynocentrism?” The custom graphics on Google’s home page today, which I have screencapped and pasted in above.
At first glance, this all seems very innocent. We all remember these adorably crappy candies with the little messages on them. But Taylor is able to discern its insidious deeper meaning in their words:
The inclusion of the “Mr. Right” heart may seem like a small thing, but it is also rather telling, especially coming from the #1 website in the world. Women have expectations and standards. Where are men’s expectations and standards?
We aren’t told about them. Unlike “Mr. Right,” the phrase “Ms. Right” isn’t used in common parlance. The very incidence of men having standards for women is often regarded as sexist, even if they are entirely reasonable – such as not being so fat that you are diabetic by the time you are 35 and bedridden by the time you are 55.
In the age of Feminism, the only people women “answer to” are themselves.
Now that I’ve taken a closer look at Google’s message, I think that Mr. Taylor is if anything understating its creepy gynocentric intent. Take a look again at the first two candies.
CRUSH MR. RIGHT
Clearly this is an invitation to murder. Nay, to MAN GENOCIDE.
FIRST KISS 4EVER YOURS
… because if he is dead, your first kiss will make him — or at least his corpse — forever yours.
PUPPY LOVE
Of course if he is dead, he will not be able to fulfill his normal sexual functions. So Google seems to be recommending bestiality.
BLIND DATE
And then, to cover up your crimes, it suggests that you blind all of your future dates so they can’t see the corpse you’ve got stashed in the spare bedroom. (You may also need to do something about their sense of smell.)
Has the true ugliness of this gynocentric holiday ever been more nakedly displayed?
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Just in case anyone missed it, this post is almost entirely made up of
… except for the bit about Kay Jewelry ads, which really are irritating.
Posted on February 14, 2014, in a voice for men, conspiracy theory, creepy, evil fat fatties, evil sexy ladies, gynocracy, I'm totally being sarcastic, men who should not ever be with women ever, misogyny, MRA, oppressed men, princesses and tagged a voice for men, men's rights, misogyny, MRA, sarcasm, valentine's day. Bookmark the permalink. 67 Comments.
All over every fucking thing, duh. One can’t get away from them, unless one becomes a hermit…and on days like this, believe me, I am sorely tempted.
That’s because we’re so inundated by messages about how imperfect and never-right we always are and always will be. Every man gets a chance to be Mr. Right to somebody; we are never Ms. Right to anybody. Bro, do you even SEXIST?
(But hey, at least he used “Ms.” — so, yay and a tiny, crumbly cookie for him.)
Funny how that “reasonable” always translates into something completely unachievable…so much so that even supermodels are photoshopped beyond recognition.
And he wonders why we consider that sexist? Dim bulb is none too bright. What diploma mill is he currently attending, I wonder?
Dude, you say that like it’s a BAD thing. And like our individual preferences and choices are Bad Things, too.
I kinda expected you to at least try to infer some kind of “hidden misogyny” into my article. Perhaps slide in a “maybe he’s a right-wing extremist” as you usually do.
If you have fun with this kind of article, though, by all means go ahead. You won’t get a look of disapproval from me. I think activists of all stripes - MHRAs and Feminists - take themselves too seriously anyway, and it helps us all to lighten up every now and then.
I’ll admit, it got a chuckle out of me.
It also helps me. By employing a radical overexaggeration of my article in yours (which is quite clear when generally apolitical bystanders compare the two, although it would of course not be as clear to Feminists), it also lowers the bar of relevance for your collection of articles that attempt to discredit my site. It also boosts my rankings.
So it’s a win all around.
Cheers! And Happy Valentine’s Day, folks.
David, PUPPY LOVE is merely hinting at where Google’s real loyalties lie: they are minions of the Great Furred Ones.
There is no such phrase as “kitten love” in common parlance, because the puppyocracy pomotes the idea that cats are not capable of love.
By using the Puppy Love heart, Google has shown that it agrees with this evil puppycentric world view and that it has nothing but hatred and contempt for all cats everywhere.
Google is proof that agents of the Gynocracy and the Furrinati are in cahoots.
Further photographic evidence: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Afm6-TcZ7Ho/TPWxOlRrAhI/AAAAAAAAD1c/nm_adeBOEsI/s1600/vogue%2Bcats.jpg
(Hint, the boxes on the nightstand have bonbons in them)
LOL omg what a photo!
My favorite bit from the original essay is:
Is this something that actually happens in the real world?
Further down:
Obviously no one would give this chocolate figure of a man as a romantic gift. It looks like a gift for a bacherlorette party, but it could also be the sort of Valentine’s Day gift that one women might give to another, to cheer her up after a bad breakup.
So there’s no reason at all that Mr. Taylor needs to be unhappy about it. He could imagine all the women who have dumped him (because he didn’t give them ponies for Valentine’s Day) sitting alone in their cold and ponyless apartments and gnawing bitterly on one of these confections.
How miserable his life must be! Even the simple pleasures of schadenfreude are beyond him.
Actually, unless they include a “Ms. Right” candy as well, that is kind of sexist. But not in the way the author means. The expectation is that men aren’t interested in finding “the right one” and are quite happy to hop from one bed to another all their lives, and it’s only women who are interested in a long-term, stable relationship. And of course, it turns right around into slut-shaming, if you happen to be a woman who isn’t looking for Mr. Right.
This is why I hand out M&M’s on Valentine’s Day. “Mmmm” is nicely non-commital.
@markb: Shhh, stop providing cultural context!
Seriously, though, it’s like their complaint that weddings are all about the bride. Like, yeah…in a society which tells women that their top priority in life should be to find THE ONE and settle down as quickly as possible, holidays and rites of passage which centre around monogamous relationships also focus on women. Whatdoyaknow.
I wonder if it occurs to this twit that Valentine’s day is hugely commercial and companies pushing the whole romance theme aren’t known for being exactly progressive with their attitudes? I wonder if it occurs to him that heaps of people (apart from those in countries where Valentine’s Day isn’t a thing anyway) don’t give a shit about it?
Couldn’t he have just said “dating someone you don’t want to”? That’s pretty childish.
Oh the irony coming from a movement that thinks women only want to marry rich and “wussified”(actually nice) dudes.
Yes if you look very closely, including “Mr Right” but not “Ms Right” is kinda sexist. But really, most of the modern world, including dating, assumes the male perspective as default, so I see nothing wrong with this one instance of there just being “Mr Right”.
Now, concerning the, err, essay’s wider topic… yes, Valentine’s Day is crap. It, yeah, kinda *is* sexist, to a more substantial degree. But that’s mostly because it’s so consumerist (another point to hold against it), and standard attitudes and expectation are still that the man is the money-earner - and hey, due to the wage gap, he even is most of the time. So really, this is a reflection of society’s wider sexism that targets both genders. This means that funnily the guy is right that we should do away with those Valentine’s Day customs… but he’s right for all the wrong reason. Also, he gives too much importance to a crappy, artificial “holiday”.
Valentines day is my favorite holiday though, even though I don’t like the actual holiday. I just like pink/red, hearts, lace, candy, etc.
In the age of Feminism, the only people women “answer to” are themselves.
THE HORROR
Jonathan, your misogyny is not actually all that terribly well hidden; read the comments here to see some discussion of some of your misogynisitic assumptions.
As for the rest, enjoy your delusions. We certainly do.
@Johnathan, I can just smell the passive aggressive.
“A Voice for Cats?” HERE is the TRUE Voice for Cats:
http://cat.www.avoiceformen.com.meowbify.com/
So, do many more men do this, compared to men who do not? Who the hell cares about expectations, it’s actual behaviour that’s important.
Citation required.
Citation required.
An arse-pluck at this point to negate the arse-plucks you said above. At least you’re consistent, they’re all arse-plucks.
To answer your question, which isn’t “curious” it’s merely “stupid”, women do not require goods and services to be provided before they will provide physical affection. Also, you appear to not understand what the word “exchange” means: in the scenario you outline, because goods and services are exchanged first, then the women has provided the man with a good and/or service ahead of the physical affection.
No, no, this is the true voice of Felinist Counter Theory!
What’s to separate a man from a kerb-crawler who sees a woman as a thing to be used?
i meowbified manboobz but i couldn’t tell which ones were replacing non cat images an which images were already cat images.
the how i censor commments replaced the cat sitting on the computer screen with this
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3xno8oOiy1rtbmh0o1_500.gif
it still makes sense in context. XD
“In the age of Feminism, the only people women “answer to” are themselves.”
Kind of ironic, because since the invention of the pill men have been making huge gains in the answering-to-no-one-but-themselves dept. These days men can have commitment free sex, they don’t have to get married, there are less children to support, they can have multiple partners. Where’s the gynocentrism in that? They even get their own candy heart on Google!
You’re both using extremist positions, this is mainstream felinist counter theory: http://bit.ly/1gidvDC
This is horrible. Deeply, deeply, horrible. I am horrified. Horrified, I tell you.
@jonathan
Dang, I wish I had some kind of troll bingo open! Then I could take one for “well you’re just as bad as X!”
@auggz
GOsh, I don’t hate valentines day, and I do love pink, lace, candy, ect, but even I find it unbearably over the top. Maybe I’m just vindicative this year, because I was feeling too sucky to make a valentine day cake that said ‘happy chocolate day’ on it. /rambles
wait, what I meant was: DISSENT IN THE HIVEMIND! ABORT! ABORT!
Oh yeah, also another reason I don’t like valentines day is so much of the junk around it (though not all!) feels really heteronormative, and I’ve had, like no patience for that recently. Idk, whatever. well, troll boy here is certainly being very man + woman work this way AND ONLY THIS WAY!!!!eleven.
/rambles
Yeah, sorry for the stream of conciousness, I kinda am feeling weird today.
Brain bleach:
Uh, I’ve heard people say “Mr. and Mrs. Right” several times before…
Dear fucking God - not this false equivalency nonsense again…
Ah, this kind of article always warms my cold, materialistic feminist heart right up. I’m so glad men like Jonathan understand women so well /sarcasm.
I mean I like Valentine’s day, because I think it’s cute. I like the decorations, I like baking cute V-Day cookies and I like telling everyone I love that I love them. I think it is a very materialistic holiday, but the same can be said for most mainstream holidays in America. The main point is to get candy or gifts, media would tell us. I’m happy though, I’m spending V-Day with one of my best friends playing GTA 5.
The one thing people (guys especially) don’t seem to get is that they don’t need to spend a shit ton of money to be romantic. If I wanted a romantic Valentine’s Day I’d want to stay home and cook dinner together and then play Mario Kart 64.
Oh that big meanie, making poor penguin run!
Felinist Counter Theory - the Hivemind
“So, do many more men do this, compared to men who do not? Who the hell cares about expectations, it’s actual behaviour that’s important.”
That would be the ideal attitude, but you know that isn’t always how it goes down. Fighting gender-based social expectations is after all one goal of feminism, and for good reason (and it should be for MRAs, too, if they were truly about those rights and weren’t simply using these issues as mere talking points against feminism). So, yeah, scew Valentine Day’s customes, they *are* sexist. But they aren’t a sign of some nebulous wider ranging female social superiority in modern times, as the article alleges, but rather actually part of what some may call “the Patriarchy”.
Oh, and also good point, Marie, about heteronormativity. The claim that the “Mr Right” is discriminatory against men rests on the unfounded assumption it’s meant for women
Uh… what about all media ever? Are you seriously saying that there’s no pressure on women to look a certain way, or that there’s no cultural standards of beauty?
Also, who is forcing men to date women that they don’t find attractive, or women that act in ways that they can’t stand? Man-o-spherians always complain about women’s romantic behavior as if a) all women were all exactly alike and b) men were forced to date them at gunpoint. Like, maybe when you are first getting to know a ladyperson, you could ask “hey, do you think men should always pay for dates?” and if the answer indicates that she buys into gender norms that you object to, you could be like “well maybe this isn’t going to work out.”
I really don’t understand the angst about this stuff. I don’t particularly like the ‘type’ of woman that expects men to pay for all dates, or expects dozens of roses on Valentines day. So… I don’t date people like that. I also don’t date people I don’t find attractive. I know this is a radical solution, but you might give it a try.
@kittehs
::cackles evilly::
“Oh that big meanie, making poor penguin run”
And no bon bons! How is that penguin supposed to be a proper feminist whore?
@Octo: yes, and the real point is around the behaviour. Otherwise the argument would be that it didn’t matter if the man didn’t “take the woman out to dinner, pay for this or that, and perhaps buy her jewelry or some kind of gift” so long as he *intended* to do that, or thought that was the correct behaviour to exhibit.
I know that behaviours follow attitudes (and attitudes follow behaviours), but even though it was expressed as an expectation, it was more around the behaviour. Which is why I asked for evidence relating to the behaviour, and not the attitudes.
That Google doodle is interactive: click on each heart, and you get a different recording of a true love story collected by Ira Glass. The story for “Mr. Right” is from an older woman:
The morning after I got married, I woke up with this huge doubt and a heavy heart. Questioning. It was so embarrassing, like, tch, you’re so stupid, you should have thought about that before, right? But the heartache was real. All of a sudden, the enormity of it almost crushed me. So I just wanted to walk around and clear my head, thinking, “What should I do, what should I do? Do I have to tell him?” I might have made a mistake, but that would hurt his feelings. All day long, I walked and walked.
Finally, when it got dark, I came home and he-my husband-he was just so worried. His face, I could tell. He said, “Where have you been? I called the police because I thought you got lost or something happened. Then I thought…well…he’s a good man and I should give it a try. That was 42 years ago, and since then I have never questioned. Never.
MISANDRYYYYYYY
God, the nerve of society, expecting male purchasing units to perform demonstrative activities once a year for the female concavity they are currently affiliated with!
Well, here’s a thought: if the thought of doing something nice for another person is a chore and a burden, maybe you shouldn’t be coupled with that person. Or at all.
@Kiwi, well speaking from personal experience: When I was younger and new to the whole dating thing (which was still emberassingly late), I did do the whole “take over all the costs” thing, even with women who surely would not have minded split costs. Simply because, well, I thought it was somehow expected of me. I’ve since wisened up, though. And I’ve never bought jewelry for Valentine’s Day
I agree that of course behaviour is what counts most, especially if we want to find out how prevalent a problem is. I just think we shouldn’t flippantly dismiss social expectations and restrictions, either.
You know, there’s nothing wrong with wanting to only date people who are physically fit and make lifelong physical fitness a priority.
There is, however, a lot wrong in being a hostile misogynist snot-wipe in the way you express that preference.
Oh, and today’s my tenth wedding anniversary. We’re going to make chocolate-covered strawberries and cook a romantic dinner at home.
Aw, Jonathan must have a Google alert on his name! Happy Valentine’s Day, twerp.
(And genuinely, HVD to all the rest of you.)
There are no Ms. Rights because all women are factory robots you can order from the vagina store and program to fulfil your specific desires and fantasies. All these manopshere internet spaces are really just bug reporting, as for the last 4 decades or so most Western female factory models have been faulty. A ‘Ms. Right’ implies humanity and individuality that we all know women don’t have. Feminism is just a computer virus.
On a more serious note, I can’t be the only one here who has used it as an excuse to eat chocolate for breakfast and watch sappy movies during the day. I also can’t be the only woman on the planet who buys her man chocolate. I also enjoyed making the cards and exchanging them with classmates in elementary school because they were cheesy fun. I’ve really got nothing against Valentine’s Day, but then, I’ve never had childish hangups about giving.
If anything, the extreme lopsided frequency of “Mr. Right” versus “Ms Right” in the culture at large, as reflected in the Google header, is androcentric rather than gynocetric. It is not men to whom patriarchal culture ascribes the quality of being incomplete without women. We never hear “old cat men,” because men alone aren’t thought of as needing ersatz children if they can’t make their own. We don’t read hand-wringing narratives about men who should have settled down and had kids instead of pursuing their careers, with accompanying implications (indirect or outright) that men have been “robbed” by the notion that they deserve equality. Society doesn’t talk about Ms. Right because the compulsory heterosexual patriarchal standard is nearly omnipresent, and because it gives men power over women if the premise of heterosexual relationships is that the woman must find The One Right Man to complete her life while the woman is ultimately replaceable. Jonathan’s thesis is just another example of an MRA getting indignant that women’s preferences are even brought up: by golly, he should get to enjoy his patriarchal privileges on his own terms, not some mere woman’s!
Happy anniversary, Shaenon!
Chocolate covered strawberries are the BEST.
zippydoo - “I’ve really got nothing against Valentine’s Day, but then, I’ve never had childish hangups about giving.”
Bingo. So many scrotospherians’ (or should that be scrotosphericals’?) whines come down to the horror of doing something for anyone, especially if it means spending some of their precious money. They object to buying dinner, or a present (they probably think birthdays are some sort of gynocratic plot) and the thought of supporting a child they engendered is just too, too horrible. Even the thought of trying to make sex a mutually enjoyable experience is too much for them.
As a general notion of MRAs and assorted idiots? Yes, probably. But in this specific case the problem is rather that one side is supposed to give, and the other, well, not. At least, traditionally. Now, how much this is actually a *problem* indeed depends on how much those expectations are actually followed by people, as Kiwi has noted. But if it is a problem, it is not just about giving…
I bought Mr Kiwi 5 very nice shirts because the big old department store where I live was having its annual sale - and they do *huge* discounts in that sale. He’s had a compliment each time he’s worn one. I told him he could think of it as his valentine’s present, because it was the week ahead. Last year, I think it was, I commissioned him a picture by LBT.
And he got me… nothing. Again. And we’ve been together for…. 13 years now. But he buys me things during the year, and tends to pay for coffee when we go out on the weekend, and undoes my knitting and crochet errors for me (I cry if I have to unwind more than 1 ball, he just sits there quietly and does it for me). I would much rather have this type of mutually supportive relationship than one where only valentines, a birthday, and christmas are “special” days.
It is rather telling if a person whines about the fact they have to be unselfish between 1 and 3 days a year….
Happy anniversary, Shaenon!
Octo: you clearly live in a completely different society to me as where I live, there is reciprocity expected if the two parties believe in the valentines day hype. Even if *he* is taking her out to a formal dinner, *she* is expected to dress to the nines for that (and all the preparation that entails). Or did you not consider that to be reciprocal - if you don’t consider that reciprocal then I take it you’d be okay with her wearing a gardening top matched to yoga pants and crocs.
Kiwi girl - it’s much like that for Mr K and me. He can’t do physical stuff for me on this plane, obvs, and $$$$$$$$ isn’t a thing over There (however would MRAs cope with that?) but we’re always doing things for each other. I knitted him a jumper here, ‘cos I wanted something earthly-physical of his to have. He chose the colour and pattern. Across the other side we make things for each other, from meals to knitwear to furniture. (Okay, he does the furniture, I’m no carpenter.)
But then it all comes down to liking and loving the other person and enjoying their company and wanting to do stuff together, doesn’t it - and that’s where MRAs and misogynists in general are full of fail.
::snerk:: I’m seeing an episode of The Good Life here.
not to mention, the woman is supposed to “reciprocate” by having sex, so in the strict “guy buys” model, it’s not like we’re just getting shit for free — people to adhere to that generally think women are suppossed to “give” guys sex. So this
is wrong
@Zippydoo
I so use it as an excuse to eat lots of chocolate, if that’s close enough
How about we just agree gifts aren’t necessary on V-Day, and gifts should be given out of the spirit of giving, not the spirit of wanting something in return?
@Kiwi: I, uh, would rather obviously count that as being reciprocal for me dressing up as well. Okay, to a degree, such a process is usually more arduous for women, I admit. But then I find most ‘formal’ dresses unnecessary anyway… though yeah, maybe yoga pants and crocs go a bit far, heh.
Anyway, doesn’t this attitude strike you as a bit sexist yourself? It seems like a dressed down variant of “the woman pays with sex”. Kinda. At least attitude-wise. I hope you know what I mean. If people go out, both will (hopefully) pay some attention to how they look. That the man pays and “in return” he gets to look at a beautifully dressed up partner… hm. Yeah, that kinda does seem to rest on some old gender stereotypes. Doesn’t sit comfortable with me.
A relaxed attitude of “sometimes he pays, sometimes she”, such as you yourself describe, is much better. And maybe more common then either I or Jonathan might believe, hah, I admit. Bad enough that I have to name myself in the same list as him. I do maintain that traditional Valentine’s Day customs are unfortunate and that social expectations can be bad all by themselves. But I do admit I might be making a mountain out of a molehill here.
@Fade …yeah exactly what I meant. If you think of consensual sex in a relationship which hopefully both sides want as one side giving to the other, because of old stereotypes about which gender is to be the sexually “aggressive” one… yeah, that’s sexism.
@Lids: Sounds good.
My preferred way for dating is dutch or one pays once then the other pays on the next date. Or if you go to a movie one person buys the tickets and the other buys drinks and popcorn.
This valentines, bf and I are making lasagna from scratch together, getting wasted, playing video games and then having the sexy times. Actually, that kinda sounds like most nights… Except tonight it’s wine instead of beer, and the table has scented motherfucking candles on it.
that’s not what i think; it’s generally the attitudes people who think “guy always pays” hold. They then whine about it being unfair to the guy ignoring that they are expecting the women to “give” him something in return. So when people say “guy always pays” is unfair i’m like “ok but wtf are you expecting the girl to do?” because those attitudes don’t normally develope without some expectation of fucked up rigid gender roles.
I got chocolate and balloons today from friends and family and I like that. Also I saw hot guy and my ovaries exploded. I like valentine’s day but I like thanksgiving more. I hate the stupid jewelry commercials. Especially those stupid open heart necklaces. They didn’t look like open hearts they look like snakes. I like real snakes not fake ones.
Congrats to everyone celebrating with their loved ones today. Don’t eat too much chocolate. Jk there is no such thing as too much.
Today at work someone got a singing valentine’s telegram! That someone was a man and it was from his wife. Warmed my heart and everyone else’s! I’m not making any deductions about men women and valentines, just thought I’d put it out there. So cool. If these guys weren’t such insufferable dicks, they might be on the receiving end of a valentine from a loved one. They may want to give one to their significant others out of love and appreciation. How this angry misogynistic slant colors the world so darkly for them. I know valentines day is a hallmark made up holiday that is basically “single awareness day” but it’s certainly not “female entitlement day”.
I’m making a red velvet cake for Valentine’s Day, because I’m a misandrist. Well, no, the fact I’m not going to SHARE that red velvet cake with any males makes me a misandrist, technically. You can bake a cake without misandry, I think. Not that I’ve ever tried.
@Jonathan,
Nobody needs to look hard for your misogynist drivel. It’s not like it’s hiding in the deep dark Ocean where only Jacques Cousteau could find it.
Oh and I’m the official A Voice for Mice! *squeeeeek!’ All my female house mice are practicing their Gynomus Musculis Valentinus Dominus Day today. They want mancheeze!
I’ve never dated in a paying-way (ie. meals with Mr K are different) and when it comes to eating out with a friend, I pay for what I have, exactly the same as when I’m eating alone.
Amazing how straightforward that is.
@Octo:
I only brought it up because your previous comment:
stated that women who were taken out to dinner, etc, didn’t “give”. My only point was that if the man takes the woman out to dinner, the woman is also giving up time and money (outfit, shoes, make-up, products) for this event.
It doesn’t matter whether I think this is sexist or not, all that matters is that you were wrong in your previous comment about women not giving.
@Kiwi: All that matters is that I was wrong? Well, okay, if it’s *that* important to you… :p
But I would like to mention that to some degree (I know this is all usually a bit more complicated for women) men invest into this stuff, too, so reciprocality already exists there to a degree. However, eh, that’s technical details. Either way, it backs up my point that traditional Valentine’s Day customs are bad, though maybe not as widespread and hence not as problematic as I might make them out to be here
@greenday Yeah, fucked up gender roles is the point. But you’re right to point that such attitudes often come together. Both sides of the “equation” here are bad, of course.
Just popping in to say happy valentine’s day to everybody. Hugs for those who want and/or need them. Also my ass seems to be nearly fully healed YAY!
Dear Shitlord,
Your little screed was profound. Some men don’t like fatties. And women being in charge of their own lives is a terrible horror. What else, errr, all women want men to give them ponies. Um yeah, so…(sarcasm off)
Commercialism drives Valentines Day, and yes, it uses sexism to do it — kind of like the wedding industry. How did you miss that? How many ex’s asked you for a pony by the way? I dunno, it sounds like you think all women are whores (that’s fucked) and most men are rich (that’s not factual). What dimension do you live in, little shit lord?
Oh, let us know when you snag your first book deal. *snicker*
I once dated a woman who made a giant deal out of Valentine’s day, and got really mad at me when the flowers I ordered for her didn’t arrive at her workplace on V-day, even though (as I explained to her) the place I had gotten them from had guaranteed that they would.
I broke up with her shortly afterwards, in part because I didn’t want to be dating someone like that.
I didn’t turn that experience into an excuse to join a movement devoted to hating women.
Because no one was forcing me to date her, and in fact almost all of the women I’ve ever dated have wanted to go dutch. I’ve paid for a couple of women’s dinners; a couple of women have paid for my dinners. One woman paid half my plane ticket so I could fly halfway across the country to see her.
The descriptions of the horrible “gynocentric” dating world that I see from MRAs all the time — from Warren Farrell to Mr. Taylor here — bear no resemblance to the world I inhabit.