Oh, Reddit, must you be so, so creepy?
No time for a full post today, but I just thought I’d draw your attention to what may be the creepiest fucking Reddit thread I’ve ever seen. (In the past week, anyway.) It’s a discussion in the Pics subreddit of the picture at right here, titled Biggest fear of having a daughter.
A Redditor called SeeingYouHating has assembled a sort of “best-of” — by which I mean “worst-of” — compilation of the creepiest comments in the thread, many of which have, yep, dozens of upvotes.
Enjoy?
Posted on September 3, 2011, in creepy, men who should not ever be with women ever, misogyny, penises, reactionary bullshit, reddit, sex. Bookmark the permalink. 66 Comments.
They all seem to come down to “she’ll have sex someday, and that will make her permanently disgusting.”
they hate their mothers (sexual competition thing) and resent their fathers. best to just send them away and hope they become lesbians.
I have a decent relationship with my mother. Maybe that’s why I’m a lesbian? But then, my partner has a sincerely terrible relationship with her mother a lot of the time and she likes girls too. I don’t know if relationships with your parents do what they think it does.
It’s like James Dobson, who say that “weak or absent fathers” make their sons gay. Of course, the solution is always more Patriarchy.
I’m glad not everyone in the thread was completely horrible. And I notice that the ones who actually have daughters seemed a lot more likely to say reasonable things, which gives me some hope.
(quietly bookmarks thread for NSWATM post)
Once again Ozy’s Law is proven: the people who hate women the most also hate men the most.
Man. I have to remember to hug my father tomorrow.
This is just stupid. It is so over the top it comes off as a joke.
Holy crap… There are no words for that level of creep.
Some people should not have kids.
Whenever anyone mentions Dobson, I’m reminded of his theory that a father needs to take his sons into the shower to show them Who Has The Biggest Cock so … so … they won’t turn gay?? Something like that. I’m not sure what happens if dad has one of those bobbin-sized ones or the kids hit puberty and outgrow him … but … right. Dobson.
Anyway …
What the what now? Source?
Yeah, chocominties, I’ve heard that one too. He apparently has a whole passage in one of his books about how the son should admire his father thick, manly penis, which is supposed to inoculate them against teh ghey. Sometimes you just can’t make up shit that’s weirder than the shit they say in earnest.
I’d do a Google search for the source, but I can’t think of a search term that won’t also generate some very disturbing content-as if this isn’t disturbing enough.
Wow. I am really grateful now for how well-adjusted my father is. The part where he generically threatened my prom date last May would have been much, much creepier if I’d known he was thinking about me having sex with the dude later.
Thank you for being normal, Dad. ;__;
@holly
what an awesome dad
Awesome dad!
why are they crafting a narrative for this picture anyway? it looks so fake and posed… whos snapping a picture of sadgirl doing the hand-over-the-mouth conversation with angrydad leering in the background. who is the uninterested third party with the camera on hand to catch a picture of this scene. nothing about it makes sense.
Here’s the relevant quote from Dobson - I found it on Daily Kos. Essentially Dobson is a sick fuck, but I don’t think that’s news to anyone.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/06/24/541003/-James-Dobson-and-showering-with-boys
I thought Dobson’s abusive beating of the dog was disturbing, but this showering thing…*shudder* The man has serious issues. From his writing, it’s pretty clear he was abused as a kid and unfortunately was one of those people who internalized it, believed that he deserved it & it made him a better person. Then he went one step further to believing every child needs to be treated like crap in order to be a “decent” adult.
The Dobson quote is messed up. Unsurprisingly he is a pretty messed up person in general. One thing that pops out to me that I haven’t seen anyone mention is this bit:
So the son can have the inherently masculine experience of putting a thing into another thing, I guess? Does that even need to be taught-it’s not exactly a father-son bonding experience, you can probably teach a kid once at two years old and they’ve got it for a lifetime. And what does he recommend mothers do, have their daughters stand near men operating jackhammers or something? Have them participate in hot-dog eating contests? Some people just seem to have so many hangups around children and sexuality, they really probably should not have kids.
@Sharculese
It is probably a stock photograph: a photograph set up and taken by a photographer in order to be sold for advertising purposes. You can tell by the artificiality of the situation, which is what you noticed, and the overall quality (image quality and lighting, etc.).
If I remember correctly, the shower thing is actually from another Christian parenting expert, quoted approvingly by Dobson in his book. I have to admit, they’re probably on to something. If I’d been forced as a child to stare at my dad’s penis, it would’ve put me off cocks for life.
I saw my dad’s penis as a child, but it was his scrotum I saw more often. He wore boxers with shorts and it used to hang out the bottom. Still does.
Magpie: EWWWWWWWWWWW.
Dobson: DOUBLE EWWWWWWWWWWWW.
“Dobson…shower…penis…AAAAAUGH!”
“everyone knows it’s downhill after 12. they hate their mothers (sexual competition thing)-”
This is the part where try imagining the reaction if someone actually said this in front of my mother and I. It mostly consists of several variations of “What.”
My parents weren’t nudists but they did have little to no body shame. Taking a shower then strolling naked around the house to get to the bedroom to get dressed wasn’t an unusual thing for them, or me and my brothers. I think it didn’t screw me up too much, though right-wingers might beg to differ.
I have an issue grasping what seems to be mainstream society’s aversion for one’s parents’ or children’s sexuality, or how the naked body is sexualized by default so that glimpsing your dad’s penis (in a context where it’s not, you know, child abuse) is supposed to be this traumatic event. Even walking in on my parents having sex once was not half as bad as what is implied in the North American cultural zeitgeist.
Dobson, though, is still creepy.
Yeah…never been in “sexual competition” with my mother (eww) and actually had a great relationship with her as a teenager (not so much with my father), and other commentors on Reddit pointed out the creepiness of the fathers imagining kissing their teenage daughters on their lips (at least I think it’s creepy, I know some families do that, to each their own, my family barely hugs), but by far the worst comment is the last one:
“As my friend scott put it ‘If i ever have a daughter I’m just going to kill her. She would probably grow up to be a whore. Shes gonna throw my last name out the window for the first guy she meets anyways. No sense in raising that.’”
Two things: 1) It’s better to have a DEAD daughter than one that has sex? What is wrong with this person? 2) I thought if we didn’t give up our last name we were ball-busting bitches? But it we do give up our last name we’re not worth raising? Yeah, I hope this person never has a daughter to screw up (or murder).
Oh agreed, BlackBloc. Nudity isn’t the problem. It’s all in the context.
I love how all of the old patriarchal conventions that we still follow today are somehow the fault of women. “Throw away” his name? What an asshole.
As the stepfather of a teenager, I really don’t see it as the father’s responsibility to protect the kid from consensual sex.
Except maybe with a grown-ass man who’s willing to fuck a 16-year-old even though she’s over the hill.
I used to worry, before I decided to embrace being non-parental, that I’d have a daughter, and I’d give her a version of The Talk that reflects my values, and some mandated reporter would catch wind of it and decide it was so non-sex-negative as to constitute abuse, and CPS would come, and it would be a hassle even in the highly likely circumstance that CPS didn’t find it abusive.
I’m glad … er … other people waded in and found the source of that (posted from the bus stop before work, so it’s hard to follow up). I just used to hear it on Al Franken’s old radio program a lot. He liked to bring it up every so often if they were talking about Focus On The Family or Dobson. Wiiiiith good reason. Who trusts a guy talking about parenting/gayness who thinks THAT is good advice?
I don’t think I saw anyone in my family naked after I was about 6 or 7. I know I used to see them naked before that. I don’t think it traumatized or affected me in any way.
Also, I’d like to thank my father for having absolutely no interest one way or the other in what I do with my vagina. My mom, on the other hand, was devastated that I won’t have sex and got really angry with me. Go figure. My mom’s kind of nuts. And I mean that in a … legitimately … nuts way.
It just struck me how these guys don’t want their daughters having icky, icky sex, but they’d like to screw other people’s daughters. And that’s totally fine.
Here’s the creepiest thing I’ve ever seen: http://msmagazine.com/blog/wp-content/themes/news_10/images/team/368.jpg
HAW HAW DAVID FUTRELLE HAS A FACE HAW HAW
what a loser, having a face
Who is the owner of that most splendid face?
( I can tell you it doesn’t look good for your own side if you are solely judging a person by their looks.)
(or just judging looks in general)
The creepiest thing I have ever seen is a wannabe rapist of young teens…
He posted a whole screed about it too! Very creepy and disgusting.
He was not a round faced guy with a goatee and glasses though.
Bostonian - It was also creepy that this guy obsessed on another guy’s looks, repeatedly posting the same picture of him and trying to make weird comparisons between his looks and this other guy’s, as if that would prove something about the two of them other than “they look different, as people tend to.”
Indeed, Holly. The thing is, what makes someone creepy to me are their words and actions. Looks in and of themselves are not creepy to me.
ZOMG, you’re RIGHT! David Futrelle is chunky! And we should never listen to any but the most conventionally attractive. This pug-faced loser, for instance, is completely worthless as a human being.
Shit, Things Are Bad, get some new material, you’re starting to embarrass yourself.
I’m picturing TAB going on a “handsome face” crusade at his college, demanding that intellectuals be graded on their looks so that one knows if they’re truly worthy of being listened to or not, otherwise he and like 4 other students will stop writing essays in protest.
Given the ideas of “activism” by MRAs, it makes perfect sense.
“What do we want?”
“Professors as handsome as us!”
“When do we want it?”
“Before Finals Week is over! Protesting sucks!”
Oh, shit, Things Are Bad, there’s another one! THERE’S FAT PEOPLE EVERY FUCKING WHERE!
This, also, is terribly creepy.
Gaze upon my bone-chilling trilby hat!
Spear: Aww!
I mean Ahhhh! Scary! XD
Again, perhaps TAB should look for a picture David is trying to keep under wraps. I mean, if you’re trying to embarrass him with a picture, you may want to use one he actually finds embarrassing. Not one there’s evidence he finds not embarrassing.
Personally I find this chart to be a more useful indicator…
http://laughingsquid.com/the-trustworthiness-of-beards/
Gaze upon my bone-chilling trilby hat!
No! No! Noooooo—-iAAAAAGH—(x)
*silence*
Here, here was the beating of his hideous hat!
I’m picturing TAB going on a “handsome face” crusade at his college, demanding that intellectuals be graded on their looks so that one knows if they’re truly worthy of being listened to or not, otherwise he and like 4 other students will stop writing essays in protest.
Welp, there goes most modern philosophy right there.
To be fair, VoiP, Socrates claimed to have learned from (GASP) women, so according to our resident trolls and MRAs, he probably isn’t to be trusted anyway. He was indoctrinated by those ancient Greek feminists, after all.
TAB, really? Again? Your obsession is showing, and it ain’t pretty.
“Personally I find this chart to be a more useful indicator…
http://laughingsquid.com/the-trustworthiness-of-beards/”
That is amazing.
“Welp, there goes most modern philosophy right there.”
Depends on what you have a taste for.
I mean in other people, not actually…with…professors.
…
brb
“He was indoctrinated by those ancient Greek feminists, after all.”
Huh. Guess Feminism IS Older than Dirt.
That, or the Amazons were smoking hot, that’s why Socrates was brainwashed. Yeah, that’s it.
That, or the Amazons were smoking hot, that’s why Socrates was brainwashed. Yeah, that’s it.
You’d be surprised.
…
Looks like I have myself a belated b-day present. Or perhaps an awkward self-Christmas one.
New T-shirt?
Socrates was a mangina!
Those redditer comments remind me a lot of how Quiverfull leaders encourage fathers to “protect the heart” of their daughters. They take them to purity balls, father daughter dances to celebrate virginity. Their hope is that the dad can be a “date” and give the daughter enough male attention she won’t try to get a boyfriend and get other male attention. Their dating rules are so strict, I don’t see why they’re that worried. When unmarried people in their groups go on a date, they have to have a chaperone at all times. Some of them take pictures of themselves on a date, holding a yardstick to show how physically distant they stay during the date.
TAB, if David’s face makes you feel funny in your pants, just say so; there’s nothing wrong with that. This whole “guys, don’t you think this is not sexy?! Let’s talk about how not attractive this picture is!” thing is just silly and transparent.
I think TAB should continue to post, so Spear keeps posting his pretty face.
Also, hey, guess what? THERE ARE (nsfw) SUPER-SKINNY CHICKS TOO.
Bah, link didn’t work. this is the real NSFW nekkid Ozy.
Thanks, Dave and ShitRedditSays, for reminding us that our internets-society is still swimming in shitty misogyny.
“My biggest fear of having a daughter is seeing her thongs in the laundry, and the unspeakable things she is using them for.”
Uh, SPOILERS: she’s covering her vagina with them. There are several non-slutty reasons to own thongs, but I won’t go into them here. Not that it fucking matters to these dorks.
“could not care less if a daughter of mine becomes a lesbian. you could argue that they’ll have a more gratifying emotional life. mostly due to the fact that men are philanders by default, on average.”
Tasty misandry on top of misogyny bonus! Actually, all of these are pretty misandric for implying that the slightest contact with a penis leaves permanent whore-stains on your freshly made girl-human.
These dads are saying a lot about themselves and their relationship with their wives, aren’t they
Also, over here ‘thongs’ means flip-flops - giving a very strange mental picture to “covering her vagina with them”
Shoes in your laundry would be pretty weird too. At least where I’m from.
You mean you don’t wash your sneakers in the machine?