Election Eve: The Spearhead’s Peanut Gallery Endorses … Reactionary Misogyny, With a Side Order of Racism
The election is almost upon us, and the dudes at The Spearhead are none too happy about it. WF Price, apparently living in a different reality than the rest of us, has declared this “the women’s election,” complaining that “this election has been so over-the-top obsessed with women that it’s a bit surreal.”
The rest of the fellows have similarly edifying things to say about it all.
Gwallan, evidently sipping from the same cup of kool-aid as Price, remarks that
In nearly fifty years of serious attention to elections all over the western world I have never seen an election which involved this level of patronage toward a single demographic.
If it weren’t for the presence of male candidates it could easily appear to an outsider that there are no men living in the US.
An anonymous commenter takes this argument a step further, arguing that even the fact that the candidates are men is proof that women are really running the show:
It’s not a coincidence that both presidential candidates are male. Women want to be taken care of, whether married or single, conservative or liberal, and women want to be taken care of by a man. That is what leads to male presidents in our time.
Tom, meanwhile, Godwins up the thread with this completely reasonable and not-at-all-bugfuckingly hysterical observation:
Someone once mentioned that men’s situation is in some ways comparable to that of Jews in the run-up to Nazi germany – we have been vilified and deprived of our humanity. Once that psychological step is done, it is easy to abuse the “untouchable” class, because no one will stand for them.
I suggest getting your passport done, and be ready to GTFO if things get really nasty. No sane man would take the risk of marrying, having children or even dating in the US anyway – so there are really few reasons to stay, especially with this economy!
Uh, Tom, not to rain on your little paranoid self-pity parade, but you are aware that at the moment the rest of the world is not all unicorns and rainbows either, economically speaking?
Jimbo plays the race card, by which I mean, “straight up racist that sucker is, simple and plain.”
For me, it is simple. I have two sons who happen to both be white like me. In tune with the spirit of the times, Obama wants to continue to take power, freedom and wealth from white men like me and wants to continue to transfer it to women and minorities. So, despite the fact I can only guess what type of president Romney might be, I will vote for him.
Numnut is a bit pithier:
One nation,under cunt,divisible,with liberty and justice for cunts.
Ahamkara just wishes that the Repubs would live up to the batshit antiwoman rhetoric coming from Todd Akin and the rest of the Republican rape talkers:
I think the republicans have been using their bizarre rape comments as a dog whistle for men who are pissed off about feminism. I’m tempted to vote for them for this reason alone. However, I don’t believe they have any intention of actually improving things for men. So it’s really a cynical ploy to take advantage of men’s anger.
Zorro goes all apocalyptic on us:
This country needs to die before it can be reborn with healthy stock.
The feminist plague afflicting us must be utterly purged in order to purify North American society from its ilk.
Hopefully all these lovely fellows will stay at home tomorrow, stewing in their bitterness.
Posted on November 5, 2012, in antifeminism, armageddon, crackpottery, grandiosity, I'm totally being sarcastic, imaginary backwards land, kitties, misogyny, MRA, oppressed men, oppressed white men, paranoia, playing the victim, racism, rape, reactionary bullshit, the c-word and tagged anti-feminism, election, men's rights, misogyny, obama, racism, romney. Bookmark the permalink. 136 Comments.
Is the election over with yet?
@Nepenthe - I did a google search to top your titled cat, thinking I would bury this thread in executive pets. Then I was reminded that Putin has a dog. It always makes me sad when despots have animals. I don’t want my monsters humanized!
So is the election today?
No, it is tomorrow from 6 AM to 7 PM local times.
I’m surprised that Diogynes hasn’t caught on to the fact that evopsych being a crap non-science is so commonly accepted here that there’s no need to bring it up in every single thread, since all the regulars already consider “evopsych is ridiculous bullshit” to be a thing known by everyone who’s not a complete imbecile.
Oh dear, ALL the tumblrs will be full tomorrow. ALL of them.
He really is a goldfish!
Aworldanon, please tell me you are going to vote!
@Diogenes
Didn’t you see my rant in the last thread, or my rant in this one? I’m pretty sure most of us are well aware that evopsych is crap, I’m so well aware of that fact that it tends to cause me to go all hulk smash.
EVERYONE COMMENTING HERE WHO ISN’T A MRA TROLL, PLEASE VOTE TOMORROW.
@Katz
Unfortunately I can’t vote in the US elections as I am Canadian, however in 2015, I intend to vote NDP, because Muclair seems like a pretty cool guy.
Oh, right. OK, you get a pass.
Voted on Halloween! Which was appropriate, considering all the initiatives on the ballot - spooky.
I voted before Halloween (absentee ballot for my home state from college) so my fucking polling place was the fucking post office in the student union. Since Oregon, my home state, is vote by mail the only difference is I usually save money on stamps and turn my ballot in at the public library on my weekly pilgrimage while home.
President was easy, but since it is a mail-in ballot I feel pressure to actually research the judges and things… that took awhile… also I needed to think about the pot question. I agree with pot legalization in theory, but it had some stupid things about it, like the hemp commission, and a regulatory body stocked with growers. I ended up voting for it, if only under the impression that it might light a fire under the legislators to come up with a compromise. I don’t expect it to mass.
Diogenes: The fuck are you talking about… nercoed… the last comment made was at 12:41 PM today. The last comment from you was at 4:12 PM yesterday.
So between your comments about archaic Aramaic, and Declarative Statements on Asswiping in N. Africa yesterday afternoon and when you woke up this morning you think it counts as dead?
If we were still in Ohio I’d be voting by Fax. As it is, I’ll be up first thing in the morning, voting as my Feminist Overlords tell me too.
Aw, Diogenes the Goldfish wants to tell me how to argue. Apparently so I can be wrong all the time just like he is.
@aworld - there’s a strong possibility the election will not be over tomorrow either. Depending on how close the vote totals are in some of the crucial states (Florida, Ohio) there could be a delay as the votes are recounted and also as absentee ballots are counted. So, you know, everybody brace yerselves, this could go on a bit.
On topic, I would LOVE to not have some Republican assclown yammering about how rape isn’t really all that bad every five fucking seconds. I guarantee you no MRA wishes this election season had not involved so much discussion of “women’s issues” like rape, abortion and birth control more than any woman in the country. We would be THRILLED if abortion was widely accessible and so was birth control and rape was actually treated like a real crime. But we don’t live in that world, largely because of Republicans, so the MRAs have only their closest intellectual allies in the Tea Party to blame for this crap.
I voted by absentee a while ago so that I could have it count in a swing state (Iowa), but I do sort of regret not being able to vote here in Washington for marriage equality.
I voted weeks ago since I vote by mail.
And I hear Nate Silver just updated the chances for the wave of whining from Republicans to a 91.4% likelihood. I hope we have enough cheese and copies of Atlas Shrugged to soak it up with.
Hey guys… it’s been almost five hours since Diogenes posted… is this thread dead yet?
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/poll_watching.png
Hahahahaha
I’m voting today, and I’ve been volunteering for the Obama campaign recently. Met some cool liberal people that way. It feels great to have people in meat space that’ll engage in some good Republican bashing. Too many of the other people I know are all, “Well, the Democrats are just as bad.”
Also, two new cat pictures. Because on manboobz, cat pictures are never off topic.
Niko on a Mac
Niko in my Sink
No, men aren’t being deprived of their humanity, nor is it insane to marry a woman and have children with her. Actually, these guys should do humanity a favor and stay away from women and not risk passing along their crazy genes to the next generation.
Stop being disablist Ruby.
Ruby’s being an ablist twerp? Say it ain’t so.
I voted! I voted in early voting, because I’m fortunate enough to live in a state that allows it and I think I should do it when I can to ease the stress on the polling places on actual election day.
Today’s going to be stressful. I urge everyone who’s eligible to vote in the USA election today to do so, if they haven’t already.
I voted too!
…Granted, i’m in the UK, so it was just a local county election thingy. Not exactly the same scale.
(Also, yay for postal voting!)
Voting in a few hours; going to be the first election since I realized everything I believed was totally, completely absurdly wrong.
Which also means it’s going to be the first votes I don’t have to be totally and completely ashamed of. (just a little bit, maybe, because there’s no option to vote ‘NO’ on, say, drone warfare and continued US belligerence on the world stage…)
howard
I think the Barr/Sheehan ticket is running on the platform of “lets not bomb the fuck out of everything and see what happens.”
Wait, Rosanne Barr and Cindy Sheehan are running for PUSA? I didn’t know that (and now I feel vaguely guilty for not knowing it).
@Diogenes: yeah, wahoo. And then I can sleep happy knowing I helped marginalize the already-thin prospects of Obama winning the popular vote! …and if I lived in a battleground state, helped to get Romney and his ‘bigger armies, more wars’ mess elected!
Thanks, no.
Have some analysis from some progressives who hate Obama.
No, seriously, read the damn link.
And have you ever noticed that when you challenge them on it, they cannot come up with any answers as to how.
(Occasionally you get a progressive who can because of the compromises that one makes whilst in office but they are rare birds indeed.)
It’s election day. I’m doing to be cranky at anybody who assumes I haven’t already worked out the pros and cons of my vote, and considered the third party candidates and what to do.
FFS, I minored in this political science stuff. I’ve worked with politicians. A little less with the 101, kthx?
Well, I’m no political scholar, but even if Barr and Sheehan managed somehow to win, the Congress would still be held by the Democrats and the Republicans, and isn’t Rosanne a big joke to conservative white men, and haven’t they already tried to shame Cindy with the memory of her dead son? In short, no one on the Hill would listen to them and Faux News would have a field day for four years. So, kudos to them for having the guts to run, but we need to work on the legislative branch as well.
Not to mention all the downticket and local races, e.g. school board &c.
Also, THIS. (posted in response to somebody in a battleground state who posted that they just couldn’t vote for the murderer)
@princessbonbon
Well, on the plus side, I did manage to nudge some people who probably would’ve voted Romney/Ryan into voting Independent instead. You know, the ones that still think Obama is OMGWTFSocialistBBQ! but can’t stomach voting for Romney.
@Falconer-worse than that. They literally can’t win. Why not?
Because how many states are they on the ballot on?
THREE.
How many are they certified as ‘write-in’ candidates in, where their vote might actually be counted? (not being certified pretty much means the write-in is a spoiled ballot and is never counted for anything)
21.
If they got enough write-in votes to win those states, they don’t come close to the electoral votes to get elected.
It is literally impossible for them to win. If everybody in America voted for them today, they would still lose. (magic of the electoral college! If everybody in New York voted for Sheehan/Barr, the electoral votes would go… to whoever the electors voted for, probably Obama)
So, y’know, it’s nice to suggest writing them in.
Actually finding ways to apply pressure to Obama to be the leader you want goes a lot further.
@Howard — That explains why I didn’t see them on my ballot on Thursday.
That’s sucky and I feel sorry for them that the system is stacked against them — but presumably they could have been on in more states if they had gotten enough signatures, so yay for the system working like it should, I guess?
@Falconer: well, in a lot of ways the system is designed as a gatekeeper to keep out ideas like peace. We have two war parties. One says ‘give the generals what they ask for.’
The other says give them TWO TRILLION DOLLARS MORE THAN THEY ASKED FOR.
….Oh, Mitt…..
@howard: True dat. I meant the system for getting on the presidential ballot, requiring a certain minimum amount of support.
God damn I wish we weren’t so warlike. I think we haven’t been in a state of war for just about a grand total of 25 years since 1776. Technically we’re still at war with North Korea, I believe.
And Diogenes pretends that the comment in this thread, doesn’t exist.
I voted today. Before I got Coffee.
I am grumped. New Jersey doesn’t give out stickers.
Techincally a lot of the world (including China, sort of) is at war with N. Korea.
pecunium, if you are in NJ, I am glad to see you are ok, and voting on top of it all. Parts of NJ still have no power, I think.
So nothing could stop my husband from voting today. He will be counted among the democrats in South Dakota a super super red state. His family are Iowa democrats going way back. Union supporters, gov’t workers, long family tradition.
My son will be a proud union worker in the spring (we think) and my brother is very strong pro union, married to a republican and into a republican Ohio family. That’s a strain around this time of year, but really, truthfully, the different football teams they like are likely to cause more of a rift. I kid, but… wouldn’t surprise me if that fight happened one day. I don’t get the whole, football is like a religion thing… is that insecurity? What is that? Anyway, I’m rambling, just wanted to post on a board that was more than sympathetic to liberal politics before I get back on the depressing social networking site.
70,000 people in NJ still have no power. Parts are being evacuated in front of the Nor’easter. The Major Infrastructure is coping, but aboveground power lines are sort of stupid.
We have an island community which is now two islands, are still rationing gas, because supplies aren’t moving smoothly yet. Etc., etc..
I’m coping. Angela didn’t help my mood yesterday, and I need to write it all up before it fades. We didn’t suffer too much, some inconvenience, and some temporary displacement. Lost the food in the fridge and the freezer.
All in all, we got off pretty much scott-free, in personal terms. Emotionally a bit rough around the edges; this weekend is not going to be fun.
re the voting machine: the folks at one of the non-partisan voter watchdog hotlines say it appears to be a calibration error, sort of like the Butterfly Ballot. That would explain why no one else reported it.
It’s an easy fix, if you can convince the poll-worker to do it.
I want paper ballots.
Off to shop for the Nor-easter, so that someone in a less hit area can backstop me if the supplies are short.
BTW… I just want to say manboobz has been good for me, in the past week. Even with the twits and fools.
I voted today, on a paper ballot, and got a sticker. Missouri has a 97% chance of going to Romney but at least my vote was for Obama. And I also did my part to keep Akin out of the Senate.
@Pecunium, I’m glad to hear your storm damage wasn’t too severe. I know it sucks to be displaced, but as long as you’re safe and well, the rest can be taken care of in time.
And that machine is not being used anymore http://tv.msnbc.com/2012/11/06/machine-turns-vote-for-obama-into-one-for-romney/
I’m fine with any Republicans/libertarians voting for Gary Johnson in states where he’s on the ballot myself, but that’s my liberal hippie feminist communist agenda talking.
I think this would be appropriate, especically for Buffy fans (please let the HTML work).
Butt. Here: http://becauseiamawoman.tumblr.com/post/35140580440/stfufauxminists-inspired-by-this-text
We have always been at war with East Asia.
In Sweden we only have paper ballots. Seems much safer to me than some kind of machine that might malfunction… You just pick a paper with the name of your preferred party, or take a blank and write something yourself if you wanna vote for a teeny-weeny party, put it in an envelope, and put the envelope in the ballot box. Simple as that!
Dvär: We don’t vote for parties, we vote for people.
I voted this morning. Something just dawned on me that was kind of weird. Instead of asking for my voter registration card, the woman working at the polls asked me for my “driver’s license or voter ID.” Texas’s voter ID law was overturned in August. I just handed her my registration card and she took it, but should she have even been asking for driver’s licences? Technically, you don’t even need your voter’s registration card, because they have your name in the book already and I had initially just walked up to the desk and given her my name.
claire you might want to report that, I know Mother Jones is taking anomaly reports. Some feel the media is more effective right now, but there probably is someone local you should contact. I think what they’re trying to pull is they can ASK, but they can’t hold people to it, but are hoping it discourages a few voters. I remember going in 1992 and voting for Clinton, I was SO JAZZED and the lady at the long table was less then amused, possibly noting my age and what it means. She asked for an ID and I plunked mine down, and I remember her getting a look from the person next to her that I took little notice of at the time, but likely it was some meek person who knew better who should have spoken up and not just shot glances at the grumpy lady asking. This lady was none too thrilled that I was there. I still remember that excitement of voting Clinton. I had grown up Reagan, Bush… seemed to go on and on and freaking ON!!
Thanks, indifferentsky, I think I will report it! I had a weird experience two years ago at the same polling place that I never reported, because I didn’t know how to and keep in anonymous. We know one of the poll workers. His grandsons and my son were in cub scouts together, and his oldest grandson is still a close friend of my son’s. The family’s politics are super conservative, and they assume ours are too and we just keep quite about it.Two years ago, Kiddammit had just turned 18 and I took him to vote for the first time. R. told me to go over to the booth and tell my kid how to vote. Then he said, “When I see how some of these people vote, I just want to twist their heads off!” It was disturbing.
I remember voting for the first time. It was in 1984. I was pretty excited too, even though I was pretty sure Mondale was going to lose. I still get a thrill voting.
You know… my husband has lived in Iowa and South Dakota all his life, Claire, and now I live here in SD we can relate. But we have to remember, all cities have gov’t workers and union folks, so hold your head up.
lol. I have lots of family and friends that are republicans, sounds like you are in the same boat.
Claire, seconding the reporting. I just voted in TX, and I didn’t have to show ID, just my voter card. The woman at my place didn’t ask for ID.
I don’t trust those machines worth a shit, though.
Yeah, I’m a stealth liberal. My poor husband has a best friend who is a rabid conservative and he’s just had to avoid him for the last few weeks. I never knew how racist so many white people were until Obama was elected, or that so many people assumed I agree with them.
I just reported my situation to https://my.barackobama.com/page/s/vpcreport and http://www.motherjones.com/transition/inter.php?dest=http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/11/problem-your-vote-report-it-mother-jones
I had to show my ID, because Jasper County didn’t send me a new voter card. They sent thousands out but they sent them to the wrong addresses. What doesn’t make sense is that I never changed my address after the tornado. I always got my mail from a post office. I wrote my county clerk three times about it and gave up. Oh well, as long as I got to vote, whatever.
One should always consult experts in matters of voting, campaigning, and legitimating tyranny through “democrazy”. All of this fuss between tweedledumb and tweedledumber only guarantees that things will rapidly get WORSE for both men and women in the coming years…
“Its not who votes that counts, it’s who counts the votes”-a Georgian wiseman
Happy little inmates voting for their warden! I’m sure glad that I didn’t participate in this idiocy. For all that I know, this Georgian wiseman (whose terrifying grip on power held for three consecutive decades) may have even favored votes for women too.
I hope that all of you voters (especially the sufferagettes amonst you) had fun.