Men’s Rightsers fall for obvious bullsh*t, part ten million and two
Hello, and welcome to The Man Boobz Fiction Workshop! Today we will learn my foolproof two-step method for writing believable fiction. It’s as easy as pie — well, easier, since pie can take a bit of finesse — and it is absolutely GUARANTEED to work.
Here it is.
STEP ONE: Write believable fiction.
STEP TWO: If step one fails, write a story that makes a woman look evil and foolish, and post it to the Men’s Rights Subreddit as a true story.
If you don’t believe me, check out this little story from a fella calling himself the-final-word — a Redditor for less than two weeks, with only one previous comment to his name — in which a highly successful gentleman happily humiliates an ex-girlfriend trying to steal his money with the old “baby” ploy.
Take a look at the thread itself to see how eagerly the Men’s Righsers eat up his tale of victory over evil womanhood!
That is the beauty of my two-step method. If people don’t believe your bullshit, find a more gullible audience. And there are few audiences in this world more gullible than Men’s Rightsers.
I should note that I had nothing to do with the-final-word’s story, nor did I sneak into the Men’s Rights subreddit to give his story 47 upvotes and a bunch of positive comments.
Thanks to hackattack92 in the AgainstMensRights Subreddit for pointing out this wonderful example of shitthatneverhappened.txt
Posted on July 19, 2013, in $MONEY$, alpha males, are these guys 12 years old?, evil women, gloating, gullibility, I am making a joke, imaginary oppression, misogyny, MRA, reddit, TROOOLLLL!! and tagged gullibility, men's rights, misogyny, reddit, trolling. Bookmark the permalink. 222 Comments.
That’s the point, yes. And I’m not going to defend most news sites *shudder* or the bigger chunk of the internet. There are lots of misinformation and outright lies out there and it is a good thing too be critical of internetsources. Just not to condemn them generally and always approve of every word written in a book. We should be taught to judge books and the internet with the same criteria (check sources, check claims, critical thinking).
I’d not exactly recommend every rat information site either.
But there are a few good ones, that are a way better source, free to access and easy to find. And it’s just sad if people tend to go “but the salesperson at the pet shop said… or “my book from 1980 says..” instead of looking at these sites and then overthink the way they treat their animals/ look up more on the topic.
D., I tend to think of it as am I obligated to inform them about any body modifications or medical history I have? Do I have to tell them I dye my hair? Do I have to tell them I don’t have wisdom teeth or tonsils? Appendix? How about telling them my toenails are painted? Piercings? Mental illness? Falling out of a tree as a kid? Broken bones? How far back in my medical history am I obligated to talk about? Should I be filling out all my vaccinations? Infectious diseases beyond STDs? Chicken pox, measles, mumps, whooping cough as a kid? How about a family history of heart disease? Diabetes, high blood pressure, physical disabilities? These are just examples, and I could think of a lot more, having asked many people their medical histories as part of my job. Even then, no one is obligated to tell me, they’re totally allowed to not answer, and I only ask about things that might be pertinent to my providing health care.
Once you start saying people are obligated to tell other people medical history it gets into ridiculous territory, and since it’s almost exclusively trans* women (it’s not totally, but in general that’s who people are talking about when they say you should disclose) who are “obligated” to explain, it’s firmly rooted in homophobia, in my mind.
“And it’s just sad if people tend to go “but the salesperson at the pet shop said… or “my book from 1980 says..” instead of looking at these sites and then overthink the way they treat their animals/ look up more on the topic.”
Having spent a good hour last night researching the specific gravity for a brackish water tank for figure 8 puffers, I totally second this. The older books are almost all “it’s a true freshwater puffer”…except they live like three times as long with “some salt”.
But that’s at least in books, my other project was trying to work out a good yeast / sugar / water ratio for my DIY CO2 generator and DIY = no books exactly recommend it. (That one I did solve, I’m using too much yeast.)
@SittieKitty: A trans friend of mine made what I think is a pretty good analogue, with different races. Suppose a white racist person and, say, a Persian or North African person who happens to be “white-looking” hook up - and the racist doesn’t realize that the other person is non-white, the non-white person doesn’t realize the other one is a racist. Now, if the racist finds out later on and freaks out about this, zie might get a bit of sympathy from other people who are complete racists, but most people would not feel the slightest bit of sorry for zir or think that zie had been “trapped” or “fooled” into sleeping with a non-white… They’d just be “why the fuck do you freak out your fucking racist?”.
That’s a great analogy.
My SO knows my relavent medical history, but not every little medical thing that’s happened to me. If it affects him or he needs to know for emergency purposes, I feel like I have a responsibility to tell him. He knows that I’ve had cancer and the consequences of that. If I have a relapse or get one of the many secondary cancers associated with chemo and radiation it will affect him, so he has a right to know. He also knows about my lethal drug allergies, in case of an emergency where I can’t advocate for myself.
Beyond that… why would anyone even care?
Comes down to homophobia, doesn’t it? “Oh noes I might be fucking someone with a DICK! I might be fucking a MAN! That totally makes me one of THOSE guys even though I’ve been talking to and dating a woman all this time!”
Ehh, not to start a debate on transphobia versus homophobia, but I’d use the former term. Though you have a point about the crossover of fear of other people’s penī.
RE: katzenzier
he liked to go on and on about how anorexic girls just didn’t want to grow up and wanted to be daddy’s girl forever.
UGH. As someone recovering from an ED, starving type, who has pretty much NEVER wanted to be a child ever, the bullshit like that really pisses me off. No, cockbite, I don’t starve myself to make my dad take care of me, because even if I wanted to, it DOESN’T work. The sickest I ever was, my folks just let me continue on overexercising and starving, because even though I was turning yellow, I was doing SO WELL.
I would never, EVER want to be my father’s little boygirl forever. Even if it were possible, which it’s not.
RE: Dvarghundspossen
That is a great analogy! I’ll have to remember that one.
RE: CassandraSays
*points and laughs* Yeah, I discovered those jerkwads ages ago. Not quite as amazingly hilarible as the g0ys, but pretty high up there.
“Ehh, not to start a debate on transphobia versus homophobia, but I’d use the former term. Though you have a point about the crossover of fear of other people’s penī.”
Gotcha. I was thinking of the crossover element in particular with “guy thinks he’s having sex with other guy”.
In some bigotted minds homosexuals and trans people seem to be completely mixed up… I sometimes call such people HBT-phobic.
Although in many cases it makes more sense to talk about homophobia and transphobia as separate issues. I was thinking back at our trans discussion from a few days ago, and Freemage and Cassandra pointed out that Europe may have less in-your-face-misogyny than the USA. I think (with the BIG caveat in place that I’ve never actually lived in the states) that Sweden probably have both less in-your-face misogyny and less in-your-face homophobia than the states, but when it comes to transphobia, we’re probably at least as bad or even worse.
Completely and utterly OT but I am SO happy with this template I made yesterday.
http://i.imgur.com/r8zEP2a.jpg
On which note, niters!