Men’s Rights Quote of the Day: “Your typical woman would be fine making most men live in cages.”

If women ran the world, apparently

If women ran the world, apparently

Over in the Men’s Rights subreddit, a fella called EatsTinyBaldBabies offers this, er, insight:

It became quite clear to me some time ago that your typical woman would be fine making most men live in cages under 24/78 supervision if it meant they could feel just slightly safer about their lives. This is why feminists spend so much time lying to make them afraid.

Last I checked, he had gotten 18 upvotes for this BRAVE comment.

H/T to DancingMidgets in the AgainstMen’sRights subreddit for finding this little gem.

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Posted on October 8, 2013, in a woman is always to blame, antifeminism, crackpottery, evil women, men who should not ever be with women ever, misogyny, MRA, reddit, straw feminists and tagged , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 188 Comments.

  1. Biscuits are somewhat like English muffins except biscuits are leavened with baking powder or a combination of buttermilk and baking soda instead of yeast. And they are quite delicious when covered in gravy with little chunks of sausage.

  2. Biscuits are somewhat like English muffins except biscuits are delicious.

    FTFY.

    In all seriousness, though, I’m going to need some biscuits here STAT. Probably I’ll have to make them myself, though, because I have no idea where to get a decent biscuit in Vancouver. Anyone have any Southern US-style biscuit-making tips?

  3. If we’re talking English muffins, as in the sort you toast - I like them, especially the ones with fruit in. I’m very meh about the cake-type muffins (as in “muffin top”).

  4. Biscuits and muffins may be made a similar way, but they end up nothing alike. English muffins are horribly hard, and what’s with the gritty stuff on the outside?

  5. I think I’m probably just biased against English muffins (the toasty kind) because the ones my parents always bought when I was a kid were absolutely awful. And then we moved south and with the steady supply of biscuits, I never felt the need to try them ever again. They’re probably quite fine but I just have a twitchy hatred of the idea of them.

  6. Maybe I just have a sweet tooth, but IMO biscuits (the REAL KIND AMERICA FUCK YEAH) are God’s gift to honey. Ones made with cheese and herbs are good too.

    Store-bought muffins are basically hydrogenated oils held together with a little flour, so that’s pretty nast, but proper homemade muffins are delightful when they’re fresh out of the oven. The trouble is you have a dozen of them and they’ll get cold and undelicious in an hour…

  7. Biscuits and muffins may be made a similar way, but they end up nothing alike. English muffins are horribly hard, and what’s with the gritty stuff on the outside?

    *Monacle-popping aghastitude!*

    You realise, of course, that this means war? Such heathenry shall not stand!!

  8. I lurv English muffins, with the nooks and the crannies and the butter and the Hero sour cherry jam and the gritty bits on the outside. I luuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurv them.

  9. If you want nooks and crannies, crumpets are infinitely superior.

  10. Crumpets and honey I can do on occasion, though they seem to soak up the honey way too fast and need MORE put on.

    biscuits (the REAL KIND AMERICA FUCK YEAH)

    :D

    I’m going to try English muffins with a thin slice of Bega cheese now. I’ve been living on toast and cheese at the weekends lately, it strikes me that this might be good too …

  11. THat’s the whole point of crumpets - those holes that run allthe way through so that the butter & honey soak through to the bottom (and drip all down you when you take a bite). :-p

  12. America does scare me with biscuits. Who puts biscuits in gravy? That’s just… sick.

    Think of them as being a kind of dumpling crossed with a plain scone.

    I had a big problem working out American biscuits - with gravy! urrrgh! - until I realised that what I was reading about wasn’t a biscuit at all as Australians understand them.

  13. Even if they were like British biscuits it couldn’t be any weirder than sausages with marmalade, which some people at my high school ate for breakfast.

  14. Re: Radfem reproductive biology, tongue in cheek.

    There are many internally fertilizing animals without penis-equivalent structure or penetrative copulation. These include many non-mammalian vertebrates, notably most birds. They copulate with a so-called cloacal kiss, where some of the ejaculate ends up in the female cloaca. In some spiders the sperm is transferred manually into the female reproductive opening. Mammals are kinda adapted for PIV insemination but of course we humans can use our hands (at least the woman’s hands, I suppose) and simple tools like turkey basters to manage artificial insemination.

    Conclusion: Patriarchy was obviously involved in the evolution of penis in Mesozoic proto-mammals. More to the point, same probably applies to internal fertilization in the first place, because it requires unnecessary poking of the female body. Not to mention recent placental evolution leading to menstrual bleeding, extended pregnancy and traumatic childbirth.

    Further conclusion: Nature intended us to reproduce in water, with external fertilization.

  15. Even if they were like British biscuits it couldn’t be any weirder than sausages with marmalade, which some people at my high school ate for breakfast.

    If you think about it, it’s not that different from lamb with mint jelly, or turkey with cranberry. My main problem is with sausages for breakfast at all.

  16. But I hate all of those combinations too. Not a fan of meat + jam-like sweet sauces in general.

  17. “Further conclusion: Nature intended us to reproduce in water, with external fertilization.”

    Well in that case the soerm should be deposited on the lips, where it is then processed quickly through weird fishie methods until it meets the eggs, which are then produced in sacs and stuck to leaves, glass, etc. This is, after all, how cories reproduce (yes I’m serious, I do not get catfish)

  18. @Cassandra

    You know what, I’m going to have to pass on this whole sex-the-radfem-approved-way thing.

    I’m pretty sure sex the radfem-approved way is only with other women. Although I’ve seen people argue that “proper” lesbian sex should not involve any form of penetration, and now I’m betting those people were also radfems.

    @Argenti

    one of the cases of that that I saw was about burlesque and how you cannot reclaim it.

    I’ll admit, I’m confused as to how neo-burlesque is supposed to be different from stripping/exotic dancing. But I’ll add that I don’t think either is inherently unfeminist. I mean, the institution of women dancing for men’s gratification (and lack of parallel institutions for other combinations of genders) is clearly patriarchal, but individual participants can have feminist reasons for participating, and I certainly don’t see how it’s feminist or pro-woman to blame the dancers for the system.

    @Kim

    English muffins are horribly hard, and what’s with the gritty stuff on the outside?

    It’s probably just cornmeal. Keeps it from sticking to the surface it’s baked on. I bake bread the same way.

    Also, toasted English muffins make a nice, crunchy base for peanut butter (with or without a drizzle of sriracha).

    @Cassandra again

    it couldn’t be any weirder than sausages with marmalade, which some people at my high school ate for breakfast.

    I can actually kind of see this. What kind of sausage, though?

  19. When I think about it, though, keeping men in cages would probably be a slightly more reasonable solution to rape and sexual harassment outside than keeping women covered and kept in the home. After all, it’s men who can’t control their lust and are like wild animals around unguarded meat, right? Hey, don’t look at me, I didn’t make that claim about men.

  20. Also: Mint jelly. I just can’t eat anything with that stuff. My taste buds recognize it as toothpaste, so I can’t swallow it.

  21. @ emilygoddess

    Standard pork sausages that are about the size of hot dogs. Add the fact that I’m not keen on cooked food first thing in the morning in general (unless it’s congee, which for some reason I’m fine with) and you have teenage me being kind of icked out.

  22. I’m not trying to be a pain, but as sausage is one of the ever-diminishing number of ways I will eat meat, I knwo they can vary widely. Are standard English sausages sweet, or savory, or spicy, or bland? Chunky like Italian sausages, or smooth and uniform like hot dogs or Vienna sausages?

    I’m sorry if I’m being a pain about this. I’m asking because I can see how sausages and marmalade might actually be good, but I’m trying to figure out what kind of sausage to try it with.

  23. Are standard English sausages sweet, or savory, or spicy, or bland? Chunky like Italian sausages, or smooth and uniform like hot dogs or Vienna sausages?

    I don’t think we have a standard sausage? The ones I usually get are chunky and savoury, and I think they might be marginally more common than the other types, but if I went to the sausage aisle (is there such a thing a a sausage aisle?) and checked off which were covered in the available sausages, it’d be a page full of ticks.

  24. I figured that was the case, Athywren. I only said “standard” because that was the word Cassandra used.

  25. Ohh, didn’t see that comment… pork sausages are usually chunky, but they can be savoury or spicy. If I think about it, standard is probably savoury.

  26. Even if they were like British biscuits it couldn’t be any weirder than sausages with marmalade, which some people at my high school ate for breakfast.

    ::barf::

  27. Savory but kind of bland, not spicy at all, and not really that chunky but not smooth/ground to a pulp like a hot dog. This was in a school cafeteria, remember, so take the universe of possibilities available in the UK and pick the most uninteresting option.

    I really don’t like anything super sweet with meat, which is why I thought it was an awful idea, plus I dislike marmalade in general.

  28. This was in a school cafeteria

    OH DEAR GOD GET IT AWAY!
    I still have nightmares about school dinners. And what sort of sadist disguises parsnips as chips? Seriously? It’s not that parsnips are that unpleasant but when you’re expecting potato… guh.

  29. My favorite from the school dinner hall of horrors was a dish that I don’t even know what to call, so I’ll describe it instead. OK, so you get a banana, right? And then you wrap it in bacon. Repeat, and then place your bacon-wrapped bananas in a really bland tomato sauce that’s a bit soup-like and obviously came out of a tin. Bake, and serve topped with cheese.

    It was then that I realized that my school secretly wanted to kill all the students.

  30. Cassandra: that is the most vile meal ever. I’d rather eat stinky tofu and top it off with durian for dessert.

  31. OK, so you get a banana, right? And then you wrap it in bacon. Repeat, and then place your bacon-wrapped bananas in a really bland tomato sauce that’s a bit soup-like and obviously came out of a tin. Bake, and serve topped with cheese.

    No, you do not get a banana. NO MORE BANANAS FOR YOU, SCHOOL.

  32. That banana … thing … does that come into the category of “food so gross even Elvis wouldn’t eat it”?

  33. That is…wow. The only way that could be more gross is if they did it with mangos!

    Emilygoddess — I had just learned of EA at the time and was extra pissy that apparently a woman singing, with an all woman crew (well, I think said crew includes one of their brothers now, but yeah), topics of choice ranging from “I’m not your chambermaid, you’re not my lord” to Fight Like a Girl, the cover track being getting revenge on men 49% of the world, who’s open about having had an abortion, etc…is inherently anti-feminist and deluded because she does this in a corset and little else.

    For that matter, Thank God I’m Pretty is basically an ode to the evils of how society treats pretty women but fuck, she’s half naked so she deserves…”when I sing you’re jerking off”…and is a poor deluded thing to think the irony of that isn’t just playing into patriarchy.

    To steal a line from VtM:B’s Nines — “it makes my head hurt just thinking about it all”

  34. @katz — that second bold banana picture, the naughty one? They had to have known, right?

    @cloudiah — the first link I followed on Lileks’ page was to poop jokes. Boring poop jokes.

  35. @Falconer, Avert your eyes from the poop jokes and just look at vegetables in all their glory.

  36. Oh god, I gotta avert my eyes from the vegetables, too.

  37. In this vein of “things people ate that I’m pretty sure do not actually qualify as real food,” may I suggest Bad Jelly? They, er, test various retro recipes, with pictures of their creations :D Not much of a backlog yet though, alas.

  38. Well I may have borked the link, but at least it works?

  39. Nummy biscuits.

    These biscuits come together in a flash and require no special equipment.

    Makes 8/9

    1 cup all-purpose flour

    ¾ c pastry flour

    2 teaspoons sugar

    1 tbsp baking powder

    1/2 teaspoon salt

    1 1/2 cups heavy cream

    Adjust an oven rack to the upper-middle position and heat the oven to 450 degrees.

    Line a baking sheet with parchment paper.

    Whisk the flour, sugar, baking powder, and salt together in a large bowl.

    Stir in the cream with a wooden spoon until the dough forms, about 30 seconds.

    Turn the dough out onto a lightly floured counter and gather into a ball.

    Knead the dough briefly until smooth, about 30 seconds.

    Pat the dough into a 3/4-inch-thick circle or square.

    Cut the biscuits into rounds using a 2 1/2-inch biscuit cutter or 8 wedges using a

    knife – or pat into a square and cut into 3 x 3 (9 biscuits) .

    Place the biscuits on the parchment-lined baking sheet.

    Bake until golden brown, about 15 minutes.

    Seriously, super simple and most delicious and takes almost no time at all to make.

  40. Argenti, I wear both corsets and binders at different times… wonder what radfems think about me.

    (Just kidding, I know, because I’ve expressed a desire to be stay-at-home and pass as a woman in every day convos so I’ve gotten the condescending speech until I tell them to shove it and start in on the very extensive feminist discourse that throws them completely off.)

  41. Regarding men in feminism… I know loads of men who calls themselves feminist (including my husband) and whom I’m totally okay with. Most of them aren’t that engaged in the feminist movement, but they’ll say they’re feminist if asked because they agree that women as a group are oppressed and that this is a bad thing. They support most feminist suggestions even if they’re not actively propagating for the cause. Also, I internet-know a bunch of male feminists here at Manboobz who are completely reasonable people.

    But I also internet-know, and have previously known AFK, some men calling themselves feminist whom I’m a little wary of. They’re usually the ones who loudly declare all the time how important it is that women get to rule feminism, that men are just quiet and listen to what women have to say about their experiences, and they often add that they can’t help hating themselves for being part of an oppressing group. That self-hate stuff I always feel is complete bogus. Like, seriously? If you really hated yourself, wouldn’t you just STFU and sit in a corner rather than keep writing posts about your grand and martyric self-hate on the altar of feminism? Plus, way to keep shouting out from the roof tops all the time how men ought to be quiet and just listen to women… These men I always suspect of being some kind of Swyzers behind the scenes.

  42. I would love it if Hugo’s name became a term used to describe that specific form of assholery - like Santorum, but more specific.

  43. But I also internet-know, and have previously known AFK, some men calling themselves feminist whom I’m a little wary of. They’re usually the ones who loudly declare all the time how important it is that women get to rule feminism, that men are just quiet and listen to what women have to say about their experiences, and they often add that they can’t help hating themselves for being part of an oppressing group.

    I can’t help but wonder if maybe that group of people is where the MRM recruits their ex-feminist members from? It would explain why so many of them claim to have been feminists, yet still don’t understand the first thing about it.

  44. @Cassandra, great idea! “Ugh, that guy is such a Schwyzer.”

    @Athywren, they do seem to share the belief that the point of feminism is to make men hate themselves/apologize for being men.

  45. “they do seem to share the belief that the point of feminism is to make men hate themselves/apologize for being men.”

    Which also seems to be the point of the icky radfem blog post.

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