ENTIRE WEEKEND OPEN THREAD DANCE PARTY
Dance, dance, dance!
Man Boobz’ first FRIDAY NIGHT OPEN THREAD DANCE PARTY is now open for business. Most threads here are pretty open, but this one will be even more so. Talk about whatever you want, link to interesting shit, link to your own blogs, go wild!
Or you can talk about this: Earlier today I was listening to the song Dusseldorf, by La Dusseldorf, one of my favorite Krautrock bands, and I started thinking about bands that write songs referencing their band name in the lyrics and/or the titles of the songs. (In the song “Dusseldorf,” the word “Dusseldorf” is repeated probably a hundred times.) Off the top of my head, I can think of a couple of other bands that have done this:
The Monkees, “Hey hey we’re the Monkees”
Public Image Limited, “Public Image.”
The Fall, “Neighborhood of Infinity,” “Crap Rap 2,” I’m sure others will come to me.
Who else has done this? (I think we should leave out rap, because rappers often mention themselves.)
Posted on June 3, 2011, in open thread. Bookmark the permalink. 136 Comments.
Re. bad pickup lines: My boyfriend submits this Alaskan classic -
“Wanna go check each other for ticks?”
HAWT!
@Pecunium: That’s awesome. I’m really bad with nobel prize winners so I didn’t know of Dr. Yalow, but I wouldn’t be at all surprised if I’ve used a few of her techniques, or advances thereon, in my own work.
And, in honor of Dr. Yalow and that awesome life, I present to you all some biochem (and a few other sciences) pick-up lines. To my knowledge, they’ve never actually been used, but I have been tempted to try:
If I could be any enzyme, I’d be DNA helicase. So I could unzip your genes/jeans.
If I were a neurotransmitter, I would be dopamine so I could activate your reward pathway.
I want to work on your leucine zipper with my zinc fingers.
Hey, wanna put your alpha helix in my beta barrel?
Hey baby, why don’t you get your ligase working on my okazaki fragment and lengthen my strand.
Everyone knows its not the size of the vector that matters, but the way the force is delivered.
I’d like to be the integral to your function so I can lie tangent to your curves.
You kids and your crazy lingo.
Nirvana - “Paper Cuts”
I asked 13 for his suggestions on electrical engineering pick up lines but he cannot think of any. Of course he also thinks I should get off the computer and get him off. :p
I always liked, “Is that a mirror in your pocket? ‘Cause I can sure see myself in your pants.”
I mean, if I read it I snort, but if someone seriously said it to me … it would not be pleasant.
As for mral, compared to other resident trolls, he’s just as bad. He’s hostile for no reason other than his own paranoia. But he’s a kid, so he could still get help. I dunno whether slapping him with the reality stick helps or not, or just confirms everything he thinks about “bitches.” What he really needs is a therapist.
I mean, they all do, but I don’t know what good it would do for most of them.
But he did need to be kicked in the face for the groping thread. It would give him a little perspective of REAL pain in life.
And also, because god damn it how can i not:
Bad pickup line: “if your right leg were Christmas, and your left leg were New Year’s, could I come up between the holidays?”
Thank you, I’ll be here all week. Try the veal, and don’t forget to tip.
R.A.M.O.N.E.S - The Ramones
the problem I see with Mr. Al is his absolute refusal to recognize the agency of others. in the groping thread as well as elsewhere, there is no indicator that he views anybody other than himself as not being part of some homogeneous group, whether it’s alphas or bitches or manginas. As has been mentioned by others, the idea that people are individualistic, with different motivations, likes, dislikes, and opinions goes whooshing right by him.
The issue there is that is a common trait of sociopaths, as I understand it.
So basically, I figure that making it plain that his attitudes are manifestly unacceptable is the only thing I can do over the intertrons. Maybe it will help him change, maybe he will just use it as justification for withdrawal and further sulking, but at some point, it has to be his responsibility, yanno?
I don’t feel at all sorry for MRAL. I’m sick of his temper tantrums and his name-calling. Maybe all the negative attention he’s received here will make him rethink his ways. Maybe it’ll just make him go away. I’m fine with either outcome.
A discussion of sexism in the broader culture On the use of the word slut.
It started out as a comment, in part, on the differing morés between left/right on the ways in which the use of slurs is treated, but got more interesting.
BTW, if any of the MRA types who lurk here think they can take the weak tea they bring here over there… I’m nothing compared to some of the commenters at Making Light.
Just letting you know.
crap… damned lack of closing tag.
13 finally gave me a bad pick up line:
“Hey, does this smell like chloroform?”
also, excellent dancing gif, David.
[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sq8VDXlWQk&w=425&h=349%5D
Living in a Box by Living in a Box off of the album Living in a Box.
Also, does anyone else feel kinda bad about making fun of MRAL
No, not really. I feel bad *for* him, because he’s so young and full of hate. But my pity dries up pretty quickly, as quickly as his ability to empathize with others.
I theorize that his presence on MBZ is the first time he’s really interacted with a bunch of strangers and given his opinions on women, dating and feminism to a non-sympathetic audience (i.e., not an MRA blog or his three friends). People like him don’t change unless they’re repeatedly shown that their ideas are unacceptable - both by just being proven wrong, and also through learning that these ideas will earn you mockery and shunning.
I hope he eventually ‘gets it’ - he’s shown a few glimmers of hope, but then it’s almost like he remembers to be an asshole, and comes up with some gem like feminism being an anti-man hate movement.
I’d like to be the integral to your function so I can lie tangent to your curves.
Tsk, tsk! It’s “I want to be your derivative so I can lie tangent to your curves.”, or “I want to be your integral so I can be the area under your curves.”
D’oh. Math fail >.<
I can’t remember where the fellowpian boobs and brovary thread was, but I wanted to add the boy in the boat. Not a pun, but a man-based term for a female sex organ, so … anyway.
Both Samantha Fox & Lee Aaron had self-referential songs, but that was a very long time ago.
Unfortunately, a new example of actual, real hardship
(as opposed to MRAL’s minor stuff) has happened to a friend of mine and left those of us who know the family reeling too.
Hope you all have a good weekend.
New challenge: try to find a song that syncs up with the dancing guys above!
(The Fall’s “Telephone Thing” does, at least for a couple of bars before drifting out of sync.)
Also, I’m renaming this thread so the party can run all weekend.
So this weekend’s first experiment with a hamburger recipe was not quite a success. No more using sour cream…
Try smooshing up the hamburger with something like terriyaki sauce. It’s worked for me before.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/may/31/nigella-lawson-baking-feminist-act
“Baking is a Feminist Act.” What do y’all think?
I’m a bio major and the scary thing is that some of those have actually been used on me, I’m going to add more nerdy pickup lines though
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you’re so hot you denature my proteins
can I be the phasor to your electron and take you to an excited state?
I want to fondle your vesicles while you caress my golgi body
You’re like telophase, I admire your cleavage
(I actually like this one and my current bf asked me out using it and made me totally melt) You’re so cute you make my zygomaticus muscles contract (the facial muscles that control mouth movement aka smiling like this
If my right leg is the cell wall and my left the membrane, do you want to be the cytoplasm
I also prefer my ribosomes bound…tight. Spin me round with your basal body and make sure it’s turgid.
baby you make my floppy disk turn into a hard drive
What do you say we go back to my room and do some math: Add a bed, subtract our clothes, divide your legs, and multiply
@LaPlaceDemon, while I agree with the sentiment that there is nothing wrong or innately anti-feminist about a person choosing to do many of the things considered traditionally feminine, there is a problem with a gendered expectation of activity. And, I think the terms in the title and the way Lawson’s article (I haven’t read the book) is written does suggest a gendered expectation of activity, that baking is desirable as an activity for women precisely because it is a feminine activity, rather than because it is a worthwhile activity for people of all genders that she and some others enjoy. There is nothing antifeminist about liking to bake, but there is nothing antifeminist about hating to bake either. And there certainly is something antifeminist about subtly trying to manipulate women into traditionally feminine activities by saying that they are less feminist if they fail to enjoy them.
@Darksidecat
I didn’t get that impression from the article (haven’t read the book either). I thought the takeaway message was more of a “don’t devalue it simply because it’s stereotypically feminine” and not “hey you all need to do this to be good feminists.”
Particularly these quotes:
“All these silly gender-assigned qualities have just got to go, don’t you think? They’re so tiresome, after all. Straight men are, it seems to me, increasingly fed up with holding up their end of the deal, and would be relieved to be able to cry in public and take care of the house while their female partners work on their career for a while without worrying if they will look soft to their friends.”
“I wish we could take all the traits we think of as “feminine” and “masculine”, toss them on the floor and let each person pick up a few randomly. What would happen? Women CEOs would no longer be “women CEOs” and if one of those women CEOs brought in an elaborate home-baked confection for an office party, her power and respect at the office wouldn’t somehow diminish.”
On the subject of nerdy pickup lines - yes, I had someone honestly use “are you acetylcholine because I’m excited” on me once. It was actually kind of charming…but not as charming as it was cheesy.
On a totally unrelated note: OH MY GOD the new episode of Doctor Who. OH MY GOD.
“I just shat my pants. Can I get into yours?”
New challenge: try to find a song that syncs up with the dancing guys above!
I vote for “Tuff Titty Rap” by Ciccone Youth, followed by “Into The Groovey”
I am almost positive the two are going to be wildly out of sync, but it will seem appropriate.
How about “Baking is a DELICIOUS activity”.
I love baking, even if I am typically bad at it.
I am better at general cooking.
On a totally unrelated note: OH MY GOD the new episode of Doctor Who. OH MY GOD.
Zombie Son this afternoon: Knock knock
ZRM: Who’s there?
ZS: Doctor
ZRM: Doctor who?
ZS [smirks]
I agree that the traditional concept of ‘women’s work’ should be valued more. I absolutely love cooking and sewing, but I do them because it satisfies me to make something beautiful and enjoyable with my hands (and the investment and necessary space to get into sewing is much less than with carpentry!). I’m starting to branch out a bit into leatherworking, as well. Being a woman has very little to do with it, it’s about being creative and crafty.
I’m also into cooking because I like being in control of what I eat, and want to eat fresh, wholesome food instead of overprocessed prepackaged food loaded up with high fructose corn syrup and various chemicals.
instead of overprocessed prepackaged food loaded up with high fructose corn syrup and various chemicals.
WHY DO YOU HATE AMERICA?
Kirby, nah 13 and I are trying to create a new type of hamburger that is more then just meat patties.
I love Ciccone Youth. Better than regular Sonic Youth, actually.
Also: Dumb MRA blog headline of the day:
http://riseofthezetamale.blogspot.com/2011/06/1-in-10-falsely-accused-of-violence.html
Better than regular Sonic Youth,
WHY DO YOU HATE AMERICA?
hamburger that is more then just meat patties.
WHY DO YOU HATE AMERICA?!?!?
America hater or no, David, that link is fully of nutty goodness.
The first two paragraphs instantly juxtapose sexual assault, rape, and domestic violence with no distinction.
Not to mention the title talking about 1 in 10 somehow NOT being a minority, then later changing the claim to “small minority” so it would seem more reasonable.
No mention of whether the remaining 9 in 10 instances of domestic violence are OK or not, but I suppose we know the answer to that, don’t we? either that, or if 1 in 10 instances are false, than all the other instances must be false also, right?
O great, it gets better. The survey they cite says this:
11% of respondents said they themselves had been falsely accused of abuse
Hey, I say that I myself am a zombie, SO IT MUST BE TRUE.
I read the survey and it was a telephone survey, not a checking of court records or anything like that.
I thought about commenting but after reading about the Yuma shooting I just do not see the point. The blogger is going to assume that most, if not all women, are in the wrong and that this guy was at most a lone wolf. If this guy could sit in on when one of the judges here who put together a program where victims can request orders of protection at the hospital they are still recovering from the last beating in has to do one of these orders…maybe he would understand that 10% or even 11% is nothing compared to the misery that victims go through.
@Dave Futrelle - I went and looked at the survey methodology. How did they get their statistics? They randomly called people and asked “do you know anyone who was falsely accused of abuse?” Um. Yeah. Real reliable. Because it’s not like we live in a culture that downplays abuse. Because it’s not like people are unwilling to believe that someone they personally like - whether it’s their own child or a friendly face down the street - could be an abuser. It’s the classic line, as rumors are flying around: “But (person) is so nice! I don’t believe (he/she/etc) is capable of that!”
The second this guy was the blogger, not he shooter as he is dead now and cannot watch anything unless you believe in hell.
Also, I love America so much that the national anthem is one of my favorite songs. That said, hamburger needs something.
I LOVE MY COUNTRY TOO.
…dang. I was looking for Ted Leo’s “Loyal To My Sorrowful Country”, but no luck.
So instead, here is “Tell Balgeary, Balgury is Dead”, a song that is such an earworm that IT SHOWED UP IN MY DREAMS.
HEH. The video worked. Blame david for all the messes I make from here on out.
1 in 10 Falsely Accused of Violence-Still Think it’s A Minority?
That’s so awesome. It’s like a little gift. Oh, for me? How kind! It makes me sad, though. We have this lovely language full of all kinds of words that have actual meanings! And here is a person who has no use for any of that. SAD TROMBONE. Oh, I know. I’ll just type random words and hope it works out.
I’m pretty sure the two guys up there are dancing to Beyonce’s “Single Ladies (Put a Ring On It).” Like, 97 percent sure.
You mean this song?
(no, it doesn’t match up at all, but damn do I love that cover)
On issues of culture: About 20 years ago I had a book by an anthropologist at Oberlin. She was from France, and comparing the culture she grew up in, with the one she was living in.
One of the chapters was about being a mother, and that in France there was a large chunk of feminist thought that held rearing a child was a feminist act. It had to do with cultural expectations, and aspects of how the rearing was done, and without the book I can’t clearly explain it.
It was a great book (the chapter on being a late adolescent, and the quality of, sedusiant(e) alone was worth it).
Re: Pecunium’s link about using “slut” as an insult: I apologize to the group for referring to “my inner slut”-I was trying to convey sarcastically what the man in this interaction seemed to think of me and did not intend to condone slut-shaming itself.
@LaPlace, I was referring to Lawson’s linked article, not Yearwood’s (I agreed with most of what was in Yearwoods, but I am not certain she is interpretting Lawson’s statements as I would). Really, I don’t think Lawson said anything that was extremely disturbing or something of that order, but her wording and titling is problematic, for example:
“Sometimes that’s the best we can manage, but at other times we don’t want to feel like a post-modern, post-feminist, overstretched woman but, rather, a domestic goddess, trailing nutmeggy fumes of baking pie in our languorous wake.”
Lawson herself is conflating feminism with anti-feminitity there, using an asinine term like “post-feminist”, and suggesting women who enjoy these sorts of tasks are somehow more womanly than those who do not. Yearwood, on the other hand, is trying to call out just that stereotype that Lawson is reinforcing, for example, saying this:
“We’ve bought into stereotypes that are no longer useful – that women who thrive in positions of power can’t also enjoy “girly” hobbies like baking, for example.”
That doesn’t mesh up well with Lawson’s statements that are actually being discussed. I think Yearwood is giving Lawson too much credit (or, maybe, she is familiar with Lawson in a way that I am not, and so understands a good underlying understanding of Lawson’s of these ideas that is not coming through well in Lawson’s brief article). Lawson’s words and Yearwood’s statements about Lawson’s words just do not seem to match up to me.
Yes, I see more sexist and anti-feminist shit than this on a daily basis, but Lawson is still making some problematic gendered statements.
I was right! I checked, and they ARE dancing to Beyonce’s “Single Ladies (Put a Ring On It).” I win.
So, a few weeks ago, there was a thread about Manboobz dreams. I am apparently extremely open to suggestion, and have since had two, which I shall share below.
Dream the first: In real life, I am an advocate for rape victims. In my dream, I took on another role: Advocate for MRAs. They (some … dream person) explained to me that I would be on call in case any MRA had an unpleasant experience — e.g., some bitch spat on him, etc. — so I could moderate for him, talk him through it, help him get through the situation.
Dream the second: David was dating and then broke up with my best friend (in the dream), Zoe Deschanel. As she was totally heartbroken (and he treated her rather crummily), I took her side and had to stop reading Manboobz. Sigh. David: Please promise me that you’ll treat Zoe Deschanel nicely in real life, so I never have to do that, okay?
“instead of overprocessed prepackaged food loaded up with high fructose corn syrup and various chemicals.”
WHY DO YOU HATE AMERICA?
I’m a Californian
BEE IS BEST FRIENDS WITH ZOOEY DESCHANEL!??!?!?!?!?
Only in my dreams …
If I were best friends with her, I suppose I would have figured out how to spell her name correctly. Embarrassed pouty face.
I’m late to the party so someone may have mentioned already but KMFDM has a song on every album that references the band.
KMFDM
Kill Mother Fucking Depeche Mode?
and… in the OMG FAIL dept. is not just the post, but the comments on Brendan O’Neill’s self-satisfied rant about the slutwalk in Glasgow.
It’s not as if the MGTOW/MRAs aren’t supported by people who don’t frequent their fora.
Yep…it is as if he has no clue why anyone would possibly have a problem with be catcalled on the street.
Almost tempted to tell the guy to dress as a woman to see what we have to deal with.
I told him he was a rape-culture apologist, and committing exactly the logical failure he accuses women of.
But the comments tell me that was as wasted an effort as dealing with NWO, or EWME.
Hey, one never knows-he might respond and say “nut’un!” And hilarity ensues.
Haha, I wonder if he picked his own photograph. The headline is “These are the Most Antisocial Sluts on Earth,” and just below that is a picture of a woman carrying a sign reading, “This is not an invitation to rape me!”
So… I guess anti-social actually means not wanting to get raped, in the MRA mind.
Who knew?
Is that a rhetorical question?
Yes
To be fair he’s not an MRA, rather he’s a, “tell it like it is” idjit, who thinks that by being some sort of conservative/reactionary who is against, “priggishness he’s an iconoclast.
What he is, is a bog-standard sort of “whah… my privilege is eroding” twit.
I’ll be brief since I’m typing on a phone. This site is making me smile which is rare since the Joplin tornado. Once I rebuild my home I will enjoy adding more instead of lurking.
Kendra, good to know you’re hanging in there!