Vaginamoney is the root of all evil

Women receive regular vaginamoney checks from the government.

Is it wrong that I love the perpetually incoherent Christian J. – the self-proclaimed Male Renaissance Agitator behind What Men Are Saying About Women – as much as I do? If it’s wrong, I don’t want him to be right! Fortunately, he’s never right about anything.

Here, to celebrate today not being tax day, are some tasty quotes from some of his most recent posts. (He really churns those suckers out.)

Vaginamoney is the root of all evil:

You have to wonder how the opposite sex can easily make the claim about how “Strong” and “Independent” they are when in actual fact the majority of those making that claim are either receiving child support, vaginamoney as well as copious handouts from the state, their very own standby sugar daddy is on call 24/7. One who has been trained to behave like a defacto ATM, specifically trained to drip feed cash when required, without asking too many inappropriate questions and to hide when anyone or anything approaches..

Come on and take a free orifice ride:

[W]hat do women actually bring to the table besides their genitals and reproductive ability. Why do they now increase and expand their value as human being rather than relying on the state for enforcement of their will and they free ride their orifice affords them..

(That one was so incoherent, even by Christian J. standards, that I’m thinking there must be a typo in there somewhere. Maybe “now” should be “not?” Obviously the “they” near the end should be a “the.”)

Inglorious Slut Basterds:

[W]hile the slut feminist hoards continue with their manufactured bastardry, the response will be tailored to nullify it..

Too many slut feminists spoil the broth:

How many times have you heard those slut feminists and their cowtowing (sic) white knights and manginas claim that all the MM and men in general want to do is put women back into the kitchen. …

They make that claim whenever any mention is made regarding all those anti male laws and sexist actions that governments have introduced to nobble men, take away our fundamental human rights and turn us into third class citizens, whose sole activity is to be forced to act subserviently, like a slave, to the opposite sex. …

Now just think for a moment about the fact that women can’t even cook anymore, they are totally useless in the kitchen … They have problems even making a sandwich, even that task is beyond their capability, a proven inability. So why would any man want to “Put women back into the kitchen”, it just doesn’t make any sense. It’s just stupid..

“Nobble?”

Posted on April 18, 2012, in $MONEY$, antifeminism, evil women, manginas, men who should not ever be with women ever, MGTOW, misogyny, MRA, oppressed men, sluts, vaginas, white knights. Bookmark the permalink. 232 Comments.

  1. Thank you!

  2. Also no. 2 (alsoalso): Occupations no-one anyone in the MRM seems to have actually met an example of, ever:

    -professional athletes (esp. in stereotypically “black” sports)
    -social-science academics
    -drug dealers
    -sex workers
    -models
    -lawyers

    How can you get to be an adult without having met at least one of those? The mind boggles.

    I dunno…I’m well into adulthood and while I know a huge number of lawyers and social science academics, I come up pretty short on the other professions. I can maybe squeak by on three of them (in ways like “handing the famous former baseball player back his wallet when he dropped it totally counts as ‘meeting’ him, right?”), but I unambiguously have nothing at all on “drug dealer.” I mean, I’m sure I probably have met some, but they didn’t tell me they were drug dealers, so that’s not particularly helpful. I don’t honestly think that’s incredibly unusual among people who were never into drugs - am I wrong there?

    (That said, even not having a wealth of experience with models/sex workers/athletes/drug dealers, I know more than enough to know that the way MRAs describe them is pretty freaking dumb, to be clear.)

  3. Oops, I screwed up my email address when posting my last comment. Let me repost it without the moderation-inducing typo:

    Also no. 2 (alsoalso): Occupations no-one anyone in the MRM seems to have actually met an example of, ever:

    -professional athletes (esp. in stereotypically “black” sports)
    -social-science academics
    -drug dealers
    -sex workers
    -models
    -lawyers

    How can you get to be an adult without having met at least one of those? The mind boggles.

    I dunno…I’m well into adulthood and while I know a huge number of lawyers and social science academics, I come up pretty short on the other professions. I can maybe squeak by on three of them (in ways like “handing the famous former baseball player back his wallet when he dropped it totally counts as ‘meeting’ him, right?”), but I unambiguously have nothing at all on “drug dealer.” I mean, I’m sure I probably have met some, but they didn’t tell me they were drug dealers, so that’s not particularly helpful. I don’t honestly think that’s incredibly unusual among people who were never into drugs – am I wrong there?

    (That said, even not having a wealth of experience with models/sex workers/athletes/drug dealers, I know more than enough to know that the way MRAs describe them is pretty freaking dumb, to be clear.)

  4. Never met anyone with those occupations, either. Or if I have, they didn’t mention their job :)

  5. @Polliwog
    @Magpie

    Aah. Perhaps I’m universalising my own experiences a little. I don’t think knowing professional athletes is common, nor the type of academics who get characterised as either anti-PC heroes in evopsych or the type that get tarred as liberalist harpies/manginas, unless you’re in one of those fields. Sex workers in the US are, by nature, more likely to keep it private than here in Australia, (I actually forgot it was mostly illegal in the USA… sorry about that little bit) but I assumed that models, lawyers, and drug dealers would be well-represented enough among “people lots of people interact with” in that most people involved in business have probably dealt with lawyers in at least a professional context at least once (is this true? It sounds right. Perhaps I’m as guilty of assumption as the people I’m talking about.). Models and drug dealers (using the classic strawman “evil thuggish drug dealer FEMALES like instead of nice men, those BITCHES” model, it’s pretty safe to say people who largely sell weed but sell a decent amount still count) do a fair amount of self-promotion and will necessarily have to be fairly friendly people unless they’re really good at what they do, so I thought meeting them would be inevitable enough.

    Anyway, I don’t actually think anyone need sto have met members of these occupations to see that most MRM depictions of them are flat-out bullshit, but having met any one of them would surely do it.

    Personal disclaimer bit: I’ve never known or worked with any professional athletes, and never had any particularly involved conversation with any sex workers - I’ve heard them make speeches, and made small talk whilst dumpster-diving behind a brothel once, but that’s it.

  6. In my defence to at least Polliwog, I diiiiid say “at least one”.

  7. I’m still not clear on the consent.

    PUA is based on taking advantage of women’s ignorance of the techniques. It’s designed to overcome her lack of interest/consent.

    “Hey, I’d like to mildy insult you, and isolate you from your friends to make you feel insecure so I can offer you the chance to restore your self-esteem by sleeping with me. Then I might leave and pretend I don’t know you.”

    “How does that sound to you?”

    I can see that working.

  8. I’m pretty sure most people haven’t met/worked with any pro-athletes (though more have than they probably think).

    I’ve actually met/worked with all of those categories, but it seems I am less typical in a lot of ways than I like to think.

    Which is strange. All I did was live a quiet normal life.

  9. All I did was live a quiet normal life.

    Uh-huh. Keep telling yourself that, Pecunium! ;)

  10. I’ve met a professional athlete (before he was professional, though), a couple drug dealers, a model, several lawyers, and a social science academic. No sex workers afaik, but it’s possible they were in the closet.

    …Is that really that exceptional?

    The pro athlete I met was kind of a douchebag but not exceptionally so, one drug dealer was really nice and charming but prone to “so I’m going to sell my possessions to buy cocaine!” bad decisions and the other was a Trekkie who was excessively good at waving glowsticks around, the model was a kind radical feminist who looked nothing like her pictures, the lawyers have universally been rich asshats (except for the one who quit to do web design, who seemed nice enough although I don’t know him well), and the sociology academics tend to be socialist and politically active.

  11. I’ve met sex workers and academics. I suspect I’ve probably also met a fetish model or a 420 dealer, but it wasn’t really a topic of discussion.

  12. I met a Turkish model, and a boat sailer who quit the same studies I’m doing to to boat races. And I’ve seen a lot of lawyers on TV :)

  13. I’ve met a shit ton of lawyers, two professional bowlers, and a couple of people with licensed grow operations in their house. If we’re keeping score.

  14. Molly: It seems like that to me. I mean, apart from the war (and it’s not as if I said.. Ooh… that sounds like a good idea, send me), all I did was sort of go with the flow.

    It seems I chose a pretty interesting flow.

    I’ve known world class fencers, met some Olympic shooters (back when I was doing competitive air rifle), an MMA competitor (one of my instructors in hand to hand combat in the Army), a former Dodger (he was friends of the folks who lived next door. He worked loss prevention at local supermarket).

    When I was a studio projectionist I met a number of famous people, including a few models. I’ve been a model, so I suppose I could say I sleep with one all the time. :)

    Drug dealers… more than a couple, most of them did it as a sort of hobby; but there were a few who were players in the Phoenix area, ca. 1984. Most of them are dead, or in prison; Snake got out of the business (went into event security).

    Sex workers… I know a few call girls, some pro-doms, phone sex workers, etc.

    Lawyers… too many to count.

    Social science academics… again, more than I can count. I like school, I’ve been to lots. I’ve taken part in some research studies on interogation, and I’ve got an acquaintance (my cultural anthro prof) who did a paper on snipers.

    If we’re keeping score.

  15. Oh yeah, and a lawyer! I had a play partner that was a lawyer for a while.

    @Pecunium: I guess if I really, really thought about it, I could make a list… but it wouldn’t be as *long* as yours. :P I always felt like I had to work for my adventures. Might just not be as social?

  16. professional athletes (esp. in stereotypically “black” sports)
    -social-science academics
    -drug dealers
    -sex workers
    -models
    -lawyers

    I’m directly descended from a professional athlete (maternal grandfather) and lawyer (father), and my brother almost certainly qualifies as a social-science academic. I haven’t hung around drug dealers in years but I knew plenty during my dissolute twenties, and when I helped my parents move into their new house I met the daughter of the previous owner, a late teenage model described by Vogue as a “nascent style diva”. (She had a fascinatingly distinctive face, I recall: very angular, and I imagine extremely photogenic, but actually quite weird-looking in the flesh).

    So that’s five out of six. I can’t think of any sex workers offhand, but I’m married to someone who’s seriously thinking of retraining as a psychosexual therapist - so does that count?

  17. I’ve known several professional athletes, although all of them were white. :/
    I’m taking a class from a social-science academic right now.
    I’ve known many, many small-time pot dealers, and a few who sold harder drugs.
    I’m pretty good friends with a sex worker, and through my blogging have met many more.
    I once slept with a model! He actually wasn’t staggeringly attractive-I mean, cute enough, but he didn’t stop hearts from across the room. Mostly he was just very, very tall and thin.
    My grandpa was a lawyer and my uncle is a lawyer, and I know many others.

    But this is kind of a moot point, really. I’ve met people, I have some understanding that people are diverse and mostly rational and mostly well-intentioned, and I think that right there separates me from these guys much more than meeting some drug dealers ever would.

  18. Molly: I don’t know. Most of it was just happenstance. People I knew, knew people.
    Some of it was work related (I did journalism, and various things in Hollywood). Some it was that I was in places (theater) where some of those sorts hang out.

    It really does seem like a quiet, normal, life, from the inside. Looking at it as bullet points, I have a different appreciation of some of the people (like Ted Sturgeon) who had really busy lives.

    I suspect it was a lot like mine. Stuff happened, and what looked to be, “the thing” changed, or fell out from under them and so the résumé just kept getting longer.

  19. I played D&D with a sex worker. She was a great GM!

    I know academics, have a mother of a friend who’s a lawyer (she deals with child abuse and custody… SHUDDER). Don’t know any pro athletes or dealers, though. I know a couple folks who did a little life-modeling; does that count as models? (Also considered doing it ourself-probably not that many life models with a double mastectomy and androgenized features from testosterone. So might be interesting for people to draw!)

  20. Gosh, reading all of this makes me realize how much of a hermit I am. I have got to find something on Meetup.com or something, ’cause I can’t just do message boards/Steam games and movies forever.

    …I mean, I love message boards, games and movies, but it’s always cool to nerd out with someone in person.

  21. Can’t say I’ve ever known any models, lawyers, sex workers or academics of any stripe, personally. My high school social studies teacher was an ex-footballer from Scotland, though I’m not clear on whether he played at the pro level or not. He was a good guy.

    I’ve been friends with quite a few pot dealers. they were pretty decent folks, for the most part.

  22. I thought about it - I have met a lawyer once. but I was 37, so it still counts as reaching adulthood :)

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